Zone1 Calling/accusing other members "groomer"

[Gracie]

You do know it's Trolling Tommy that reports constantly that made the mods have a meeting which then resulted in this thread, dontcha? He starts such threads as troll bait, waits for responses, then hits that report button like a wild man on speed.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

There are many smug people here who have absolutely no reason for being so smug. Not being particularly bright or introspective people, though, they simply cannot place themselves in the positions of those like your wife who were the victims of extreme sexual abuse, They are just SO convinced of their own superiority that they are completely callous.

This entire forum is now callous by very design and intentional manipulation.

Some sort of unnamed syndrome that is to ethics and morality what Dunning-Kruger is to intelligence. There are more than a few users on this forum that rather strongly exhibit this syndrome.

 

[Gracie]

I had a very popular board many MANY years ago. As admin/owner, I did not allow my moderators to involve themselves in any topic..on duty or off. That is what is needed here. Moderate, post as a member somewhere else. And I was there every day to make sure things ran smoothly. That does not happen here. Flac left..but keeps his title and his powers here. He is head mod. He shouldn't be because he is NOT HERE most of the time.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I guess so!!! I had no clue. Really. But I can relate to the emotion towards someone else and it bugs the everlovin' hell out of me because I don't know WHY this neverending disgust comes forth whenever I run across that person. I just can't help myself in being ornery to that person. Maybe its the same way with her.

Since I am in the dark about a lot of stuff here lately...I wonder if you are more angry about the P word situation this thread is about, or more angry at the mod that wants to burn you? I ask because you have brought that up numerous times, so it makes me wonder. You also said you were not a victim of a P, but your posts say otherwise.

I try not to FEEL like a victim. What I experienced is minor compared to what others have experienced, but it does give me compassion for others. I can commiserate with them because I draw on my own experience.

and yes -- moderators saying they want to burn me for that makes me very angry, and the fact that they mock me for it, doubly so.

Their intent is to hurt me and humiliate me further. If I dare react to this provocation, they accuse me of being manipulative and being a crybaby and being a whiner. This is pure malevolence at work. I do not allow them to hurt me though, so simply fight back.

I know that makes me a pariah here in the eyes of many. They tell me so, and I'm willing to deal with that. Some people like me and others don't. I'm also willing to deal with that.

It's just how life is, isn't it?

 

[Dogmaphobe]

I do not see any way that that is going to happen.

If it were up to me to dictate how an alternative forum were to be set up, transparency would certainly be a big part of it. It would be made much clear, in a way that it isn't here who owns the forum, who runs it, and in what manner. Moderator actions would be accompanied by public notices, so everyone could know what moderator did what to whom, and for what reason.

The evil at the heart of this forum thrives in darkness and secrecy.

Those who thrive only in secrecy and darkness never have the interests of any others in mind.

Thus the constant demand that the abused appeal to their abusers here.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

You do know it's Trolling Tommy that reports constantly that made the mods have a meeting which then resulted in this thread, dontcha? He starts such threads as troll bait, waits for responses, then hits that report button like a wild man on speed.

I have little reason to believe that he does much of anything out in The Real World; and yes, he's probably just trolling. He might not even have any sincere beliefs behind much of the shit that he posts*.

But whether he actually means it or not, he is openly advocating for minors to have access to pornographic material that is specifically crafted and intended to help groom minors to be easier prey for sexual abusers.

I'm not advocating that he be censored; just that the rest of us should be free to call him out for what this advocacy clearly tells us about him. We should be allowed to call him a groomer, and to suggest that he may be a pedophile, based on the content of what he is openly advocating.

* See also: Poe's law

 

[Gracie]

I try not to FEEL like a victim. What I experienced is minor compared to what others have experienced, but it does give me compassion for others. I can commiserate with them because I draw on my own experience.

and yes -- moderators saying they want to burn me for that makes me very angry, and the fact that they mock me for it, doubly so.

Their intent is to hurt me and humiliate me further. If I dare react to this provocation, they accuse me of being manipulative and being a crybaby and being a whiner. This is pure malevolence at work. I do not allow them to hurt me though, so simply fight back.

I know that makes me a pariah here in the eyes of many. They tell me so, and I'm willing to deal with that. Some people like me and others don't. I'm also willing to deal with that.

It's just how life is, isn't it?

 

[Coyote]

What you THINK of Coyote has no bearing on the matter.

The truth of the matter is that she has, indeed threatened to burn me for making posts that are not violations, proceeded to do just that, and banned me for 5 days. Aye has confirmed that they were, in fact, not posts that should have been infracted.

That shouldn't be difficult for you to understand.

Sometimes enough is just enough. I left a board you were also on, years ago, because of your relentless harrassment. I came here. Then along comes a guy named Dogmaphobe who immediately starts in on me like he knows me, and I can’t figure out why. Then starts referencing arguments from another board, and lobbing the same old grenades and slurs, and I figured it out. You changed your name but not your style. I’ve spent the past few years pretty much ignoring your malice. Don’t respond to you. Don’t acknowledge your posts. Not even funnying you, and not moderating you much unless it was a thread clean up. But that isn’t good enough is it? You simply can’t just leave me alone can you? I just did a query on “Coyote” and it came up again and again, in your posts, in threads I wasn’t even involved in. You have a need to bring me up over and over, whether you are coyly referencing a certain, but obvious mod, or more directly my name. And I have to wonder, what is your goal here that you are so obsessed? Because that is what it is now, with malice.

You have built up quite a persona of being the victim, bravely soldiering on, just an old man trying to better the world, on a board where the evil coyote persecutes you relentlessly. You have spent quite some time cultivating supporters who buy into your image with out ever questioning the veracity of your claims about other members. Kudos to you. You’ve done a good job. I lack any such talent.

I’ve always felt this was a community of genuine people, which is what makes USMB special even when disfunctional. We’ve supported members in times of trouble and it’s genuine. What is it to you? So I have to wonder what your endgame is here? To drive me out? It may well work. Your malice and malevolence aren’t even well hidden anymore. And you simply won’t leave me alone.


I am not going to say anything more to you.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Sometimes enough is just enough. I left a board you were also on, years ago, because of your relentless harrassment. I came here. Then along comes a guy named Dogmaphobe who immediately starts in on me like he knows me, and I can’t figure out why. Then starts referencing arguments from another board, and lobbing the same old grenades and slurs, and I figured it out. You changed your name but not your style. I’ve spent the past few years pretty much ignoring your malice. Don’t respond to you. Don’t acknowledge your posts. Not even funnying you, and not moderating you much unless it was a thread clean up. But that isn’t good enough is it? You simply can’t just leave me alone can you? I just did a query on “Coyote” and it came up again and again, in your posts, in threads I wasn’t even involved in. You have a need to bring me up over and over, whether you are coyly referencing a certain, but obvious mod, or more directly my name. And I have to wonder, what is your goal here that you are so obsessed? Because that is what it is now, with malice.

You have built up quite a persona of being the victim, bravely soldiering on, just an old man trying to better the world, on a board where the evil coyote persecutes you relentlessly. You have spent quite some time cultivating supporters who buy into your image with out ever questioning the veracity of your claims. Kudos to you. You’ve done a good job. I lack any such talent.

I’ve always felt this was a community of genuine people, which is what makes USMB special even when disfunctional. We’ve supported members in times of trouble and it’s genuine. What is it to you? So I have to wonder what your endgame is here? To drive me out? It may well work. Your malice and malevolence aren’t even well hidden anymore. And you simply won’t leave me alone.


I am not going to say anything more to you.

Yes -- I realize that abusing people like me makes you feel better about yourself.

Have you ever wondered why this is so, though?

I have finally given you the opportunity to go for the jugular and now you are going for the jugular. I understand that. The weakness in others is what you exploit with your attacks because that is who you are. I understand how it works with people like you. I recognize the traits. Your need to destroy is what drives you, and your ability to elicit the help of others in doing so is second to none.

There are people here who are oblivious to what you are all about. It might even be the majority of the people here, but those are not the ones who interest me. The people who DO interest me are the bright ones -- the ones who recognize patterns and see through bull shit and who aren't mindless automatons doing the bidding of others.

I realize a lot of people do not like me. i rather think maybe a few of them do because I am one of the few who actually stand up to bullies like you. Id' sure rather be liked by the minority of people worth caring about and hated by the mindless masses who aren't than the other way around.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

You do know it's Trolling Tommy that reports constantly that made the mods have a meeting which then resulted in this thread, dontcha? He starts such threads as troll bait, waits for responses, then hits that report button like a wild man on speed.

They rewarded him by giving him the keys to the kingdom.

While I would have expected such things by a couple of the mods, I am absolutely flabbergasted that the others support this crap, too.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

is anybody smart enough to take note that the moderator who holds all the power is trying to portray herself as the victim of a person who holds no power at all? Do you see how she is framing it as me trying to force HER out, even when one of her buddies has told me to leave several times? Do you see how she is accusing me of what SHE is doing about cultivating supporters and whatnot?

These are some classic tactics of a malignant narcissist, folks. Eveything gets turned around so THEY are the one who has been maligned, THEY are the one who has been targeted and they are the victim. She insinuates VERY strongly that I am a pedophile and then claims I am the one who has been doing so.

She has always used this crap in the supersecret mod room and it has always worked. When the malignant narcissist goes after its prey, it seeks to isolate them. The prey is just a malcontent. The prey is off their rocker. The prey is out of line. It is all about gaslighting, folks.


MANY people have had the same experience as I have. Many are here in this thread. I realize the mods are too clueless to know what she is doing, but I trust others here who have experienced it first hand.

She is now crying that the big bad man who doesn't like child abuse is driving her away from this forum that she has been serving so selflessly for all these years. She is sending out the call to all the faithful to come get that bad man who opposes child abuse or she just might leave!

How many people are buying this manipulative act?

S

 

[Dogmaphobe]

You do know it's Trolling Tommy that reports constantly that made the mods have a meeting which then resulted in this thread, dontcha? He starts such threads as troll bait, waits for responses, then hits that report button like a wild man on speed.

It's not enough for this forum that a person was humiliated and degraded as a kid.

They want you to keep on feeling it by watching some smug little toad rubbing your nose in it day after day after day.

Once that knife goes in, they aren't satisfied until they twist it around, don't you know.


It's all intentional.

 

[SweetSue92]

I would not mind at all, since it could not be further from the truth.

I get called all kinds of names which are not true - frequently liar and racist. Doesn't bother me a bit. I may be wrong occasionally, and I take an interest in racial topics, but I am neither of those things.

Stupid is debatable, so that one gets under the skin, LOL.

I have been called a groomer simply because I'm a teacher. Hell yes, I mind. I have dedicated my professional--and much of my personal--life to being the best I can be for the sake of children.

Yeah, don't do that to me because I'm your latest Moral Panic.

 

[Winco]

I have been called a groomer simply because I'm a teacher. Hell yes, I mind. I have dedicated my professional--and much of my personal--life to being the best I can be for the sake of children.

Yeah, don't do that to me because I'm your latest Moral Panic.

I'm sure you are fantastic at your teaching job.

But does it piss you off, that since I lean Left, and you have done this yourself to me, that you claim I'm a terrible person and have indoctrinated my students and MUCH worse actuations.

 

[SweetSue92]

It's not enough for this forum that a person was humiliated and degraded as a kid.

They want you to keep on feeling it by watching some smug little toad rubbing your nose in it day after day after day.

Once that knife goes in, they aren't satisfied until they twist it around, don't you know.


It's all intentional.

So, in your view:

The mods here know who was sexually abused as a child and enjoy seeing them relive their trauma?

Huh. That's heavy.

 

[SweetSue92]

I'm sure you are fantastic at your teaching job.

But does it piss you off, that since I lean Left, and you have done this yourself to me, that you claim I'm a terrible person and have indoctrinated my students and MUCH worse actuations.

Well, using words like "actuations", I'm not sure you were a good, or even passable teacher. But I have never called you a groomer, and I doubt I even said you "indoctrinated your students", since I generally hate that accusation--a favorite of my own conservative brethren.

So, got a quote for that?

 

[Winco]

I'm not sure you were a good, or even passable teacher.

And you gather this information in what form?

 

[SweetSue92]

And you gather this information in what form?

Well, in your misuse of the English language.

Now, on to better things. Do you have proof that I called you an indoctrinator? Post it. Or be proven a liar.

 

[Winco]

Well, in your misuse of the English language.

Explain Please.

 

[SweetSue92]

Explain Please.

Post number 754. "Actuations"

Last chance. Post where I accused you of being an "indoctrinator".