Bullet Trains? Who Would Have Thought?

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    Poll: Voters turn against California bullet train - Yahoo! News

    From more than a year ago:

    Obama's High-Speed Rail Obsession - Forbes

     
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    Not hard to see what a bad deal it was from the get-go.
     
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    It seems that conservatives are content to have the US trailing other countries.
     
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    When did California become a country?
     
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    A report by the Switzerland-based World Economic Forum for the year 2011-12 says that many Asian countries have better and more modern infrastructure than the United States.

    Hampered by an almost unmanageable level of debt and other financial constraints, the once-awesome infrastructure in America is showing signs of neglect and deterioration and other nations are slowly but steadily overtaking the US.

    The United States has slipped alarmingly on the list infrastructure systems compiled by the WEF. From being the 6th best in the world in terms of infrastructure in 2007-2008, the country has slipped to the 16th spot.

    America is now beset with angry people venting their frustration over the dilapidated condition of the roads, bridges, metro rail network, etc and this is leading to a further slowdown in the economy.

    The WEF says that infrastructure is one of the major pillars of evaluating a nation's competitiveness.

    Efficient infrastructure is critical to ensure good functioning of the economy.

    A well-developed transport and communications infrastructure network is a prerequisite for the access of less-developed communities to core economic activities and services.

    Effective modes of transport, including quality roads, railroads, ports, and air transport, enable entrepreneurs to get their goods and services to market in a secure and timely manner and facilitate the movement of workers to the most suitable jobs.

    Economies also depend on electricity supplies that are free of interruptions and shortages.

    Finally, a solid and extensive telecommunications network allows for a rapid and free flow of information.

    But before we move on the take a look at the top nations with the best infrastructure in the world, here's a word about the rankings of India and China, both of which do not feature among the top 40. For the record, the WEF has compiled a list of 142 nations.

    Nations with the world's BEST infrastructure! - Rediff.com Business
     
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    I don't know the particular details of this specific project. It may or may not be badly thought out and put together and should be judged on its merits.

    That being said, I believe it is a mistake for the US not to develop its high-speed rail infrastructure more. This actually would be a good long-term investment, provided of course that the individual projects make economic sense.
     
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    If we trail other countries in wasting money, that's just fine.
     
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    Well if the people won't vote Two waste money on it, then their Senate will just have to set it up for one of those non-votes so it passes and they can all go back and say they were against it.

    the money is going to be wasted, weather the citizens want it wasted or not.
     
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    Obama Outlines Vision for High-Speed Rail Network - US News and World Report

    WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama on Thursday outlined plans for a high-speed rail network he said would change the way Americans travel, drawing comparisons to the 1950s creation of the interstate highway system.

    Obama characterized his plan as a down payment on a rail system that will take decades and hundreds of billions of dollars to build, connecting Chicago and St. Louis, Orlando and Miami, Portland and Seattle and dozens of other metropolitan areas around the country.

    A White House list of possible corridors includes one that would be centered in Chicago with Ohio stops in Toledo, Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati.

    "This is not some fanciful, pie-in-the-sky vision of the future," Obama said during an event at the Eisenhower Executive Office Building, which is adjacent to the White House. "It is happening right now. It's been happening for decades. The problem is it's been happening elsewhere, not here."

    The United States trails other developed countries in developing high-speed rail. The Spanish can travel the 386 miles from Madrid to Barcelona at speeds averaging almost 150 miles per hour. Japan's Shinkansen links its major cities at speeds averaging 180 mph and France's TGV train averages about 133 mph in carrying passengers from Paris to Lyon.

    The only U.S. rail service that meets the Federal Railroad Administration's 110 mph threshold to qualify as high-speed rail is Amtrak's 9-year-old Acela Express route connecting Boston to Washington, D.C.
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