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And? Just because people get speed tickets, does not mean that it made the road 'safer', unless you honestly believe that fines offer an effective deterrent to someone who would drive at a dangerous speed, camera or not.
As if a criminal in a car chase is going to slow down because there is a red light or a speed camera.
[Yep, bet few in this thread have never heard of the autobahn either,
You actually didn't answer my question. Even in a civil case, the prosecution has the burden of proof. That doesn't magically evaporate simply because it's a traffic violation.Oh, and you STILL haven't answered ... in America, when did the burden of proof shift from the state to the defendant? That you refuse to answer is very telling.
In the first place when are you going to LEARN HOW TO DELETE??? Your threads always contain comments from ten other people.
Now to answer your question - Since the penalty is only a fine not a prison term, this is not really a criminal matter and the rules of evidence are not as strict. THINK
In my case, the ticket was thrown out. As far as the state not having to prove who's driving, you're right in the sense that many states passed laws stating camera initiated tickets can be written against the owner of the vehicle. Those are the laws I contend are unconstitutional.[
So the story is;
Your car received a ticket.
You don't know who was driving your car.
The ticket was thrown out.
The ticket is not thrown out. You still have to pay the fine. They don't have to prove you were driving.
Mine was. I wanted to go to court because I wanted to test the law's constitutionality. I followed the instructions that came with the ticket and didn't mail it in. Doing that was supposed to result in the county notifying me within 60 days of the court date. After that period expired with no notice, I contacted the DMV to inquire about the status of the ticket. To my disappointment, they informed me there were no tickets on my record and my license was in good standing.[
So the story is;
Your car received a ticket.
You don't know who was driving your car.
The ticket was thrown out.
The ticket is not thrown out. You still have to pay the fine. They don't have to prove you were driving.
According to Faun, who thinks he's the Messiah it was.
Nuclear weapons led to the development of nuclear power? Your point? Just because infrastructure projects were developed by x regime is irrelevant. By your own logic, everything in America that just happened to be built by slaves was evil.The autobahn was built by the nazis[Yep, bet few in this thread have never heard of the autobahn either,
And that is just the start, there are plenty more US infrastructure projects originally built by slaves.[...]Slaves not only helped build the White House, but also for decades men and women in bondage served America's presidents and first families as butlers, cooks and maids.[...]
Have to agree with you there.I believe that anyone that runs from the police needs to be jailed forever. These folks have no regard for anyone else but themselves.
Probably depends on the area, but I got a ticket in Louisiana last summer, just showed up in the mail one day, said I ran a red light, hell maybe I did maybe I didn't honestly. Was there on vacation, may have done so.
Anyway, I got to looking at the ticket and it was not from a government agency, it was from some private company out in AZ. I threw that ticket in the trash. The penalty? They reported it to the credit bureau LOL big deal.
You laugh now, but wait until the State of Louisiana wants payment and offers your state a percentage for collection. You're going to receive an unhappy surprise when you try to register your vehicle.....probably 2-3 times the original fine. Pay the ticket.
[Yep, bet few in this thread have never heard of the autobahn either,
HAHAHA. The autobahn was built by the nazis you dunce. You really think we need to copy them?
Probably depends on the area, but I got a ticket in Louisiana last summer, just showed up in the mail one day, said I ran a red light, hell maybe I did maybe I didn't honestly. Was there on vacation, may have done so.
Anyway, I got to looking at the ticket and it was not from a government agency, it was from some private company out in AZ. I threw that ticket in the trash. The penalty? They reported it to the credit bureau LOL big deal.
You laugh now, but wait until the State of Louisiana wants payment and offers your state a percentage for collection. You're going to receive an unhappy surprise when you try to register your vehicle.....probably 2-3 times the original fine. Pay the ticket.
I think not. I've licensed three vehicles since then. and renewed my DL. There are no violations on my record. A private entity can't fine me. I mean sure they can HOPE I'll pay , but lol.
Those are currently under review, as to their legality. Generally they're unconstitutional when challenged.
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Probably depends on the area, but I got a ticket in Louisiana last summer, just showed up in the mail one day, said I ran a red light, hell maybe I did maybe I didn't honestly. Was there on vacation, may have done so.
Anyway, I got to looking at the ticket and it was not from a government agency, it was from some private company out in AZ. I threw that ticket in the trash. The penalty? They reported it to the credit bureau LOL big deal.
You laugh now, but wait until the State of Louisiana wants payment and offers your state a percentage for collection. You're going to receive an unhappy surprise when you try to register your vehicle.....probably 2-3 times the original fine. Pay the ticket.
I think not. I've licensed three vehicles since then. and renewed my DL. There are no violations on my record. A private entity can't fine me. I mean sure they can HOPE I'll pay , but lol.
You broke the law and may not have to pay. Good lesson to teach your kids, but be ready, the State of Louisiana has seven years to find you.
Seeing as you would love to dictate what people can people can have and do, it should be right up your alley.[Yep, bet few in this thread have never heard of the autobahn either,
HAHAHA. The autobahn was built by the nazis you dunce. You really think we need to copy them?
Probably depends on the area, but I got a ticket in Louisiana last summer, just showed up in the mail one day, said I ran a red light, hell maybe I did maybe I didn't honestly. Was there on vacation, may have done so.
Anyway, I got to looking at the ticket and it was not from a government agency, it was from some private company out in AZ. I threw that ticket in the trash. The penalty? They reported it to the credit bureau LOL big deal.
You laugh now, but wait until the State of Louisiana wants payment and offers your state a percentage for collection. You're going to receive an unhappy surprise when you try to register your vehicle.....probably 2-3 times the original fine. Pay the ticket.
I think not. I've licensed three vehicles since then. and renewed my DL. There are no violations on my record. A private entity can't fine me. I mean sure they can HOPE I'll pay , but lol.
You broke the law and may not have to pay. Good lesson to teach your kids, but be ready, the State of Louisiana has seven years to find you.
The State of Louisiana isn't looking for me dope. Are you not understanding English here? The ticket was written by a PRIVATE company . They have no authority to do anything, except turn it into the credit bureaus, which they already have.
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Seeing as you would love to dictate what people can people can have and do, it should be right up your alley.
Probably depends on the area, but I got a ticket in Louisiana last summer, just showed up in the mail one day, said I ran a red light, hell maybe I did maybe I didn't honestly. Was there on vacation, may have done so.
Anyway, I got to looking at the ticket and it was not from a government agency, it was from some private company out in AZ. I threw that ticket in the trash. The penalty? They reported it to the credit bureau LOL big deal.
You laugh now, but wait until the State of Louisiana wants payment and offers your state a percentage for collection. You're going to receive an unhappy surprise when you try to register your vehicle.....probably 2-3 times the original fine. Pay the ticket.
I think not. I've licensed three vehicles since then. and renewed my DL. There are no violations on my record. A private entity can't fine me. I mean sure they can HOPE I'll pay , but lol.
You broke the law and may not have to pay. Good lesson to teach your kids, but be ready, the State of Louisiana has seven years to find you.
The State of Louisiana isn't looking for me dope. Are you not understanding English here? The ticket was written by a PRIVATE company . They have no authority to do anything, except turn it into the credit bureaus, which they already have.
3 Private Companies Making Money from Red Light Tickets The World Justice Project
The private company is a contractor for the state. The state is the payee.
Incorrect again.When you pay the ticket, you make your payment to the private company who then pays the state a small portion. Explain again how nothing happens to you when you don't pay. I wasn't summoned to court, I wasn't arrested, I wasn't suspended from driving, they dinged my credit rating. Big deal.
Incorrect again.When you pay the ticket, you make your payment to the private company who then pays the state a small portion. Explain again how nothing happens to you when you don't pay. I wasn't summoned to court, I wasn't arrested, I wasn't suspended from driving, they dinged my credit rating. Big deal.
Again, a private contractor who collects funds for the state. The state is the payee. You will pay, it's just a matter of time.
Incorrect again.When you pay the ticket, you make your payment to the private company who then pays the state a small portion. Explain again how nothing happens to you when you don't pay. I wasn't summoned to court, I wasn't arrested, I wasn't suspended from driving, they dinged my credit rating. Big deal.
Again, a private contractor who collects funds for the state. The state is the payee. You will pay, it's just a matter of time.
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