Britain.....gun crime in 2019 already a problem....

[2aguy]

So...with these shooters, which British gun control law stopped them from entering a church, mall, theater or school and shooting people....I will wait patiently while the anti-gunners tell us the name of the gun control law...

Shots fired on our streets NINE times in 2019 as gun crime crisis returns

Two horrifying shootings on the streets of Merseyside in the space of an hour marked the ninth time shots were fired on our streets this year.

Just six weeks into 2019, Merseyside has already seen one fatal shooting, targeted attacks and guns fired at houses across the city.

Since the start of the year, we have reported on nine separate incidents where guns were fired on Merseyside's streets.

From a dad being assassinated while he waited to collect his daughter from dance class to houses being shot up by gunmen in the street, these are the stories of Merseyside's gun crime crisis.

In light of the most recent horrific shootings, we looked back at six weeks of gun violence on Merseyside.

 

[2aguy]

Another street execution...but...Britain has gun control...right? And again, which British gun control law stopped the shooter from walking into a mall, school, theater or church?

Latest on Liverpool city centre murder - man shot dead

A murder investigation has been launched after a man was shot dead in Liverpool city centre on Thursday evening.

Emergency services were called to Holy Cross Close at around 8pm to reports that shots had been fired.

When officers arrived at the scene a man in his 30s was found dead after sustaining a gunshot wound.

People in the area reportedly heard three shots being fired at the time of the incident but this has not been confirmed by police.

 

[Intolerant]

2aguy it doesn’t matter how many gun laws they pass. None will stop a criminal from obtaining one. All it does is hurt law abiding citizens.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

The Brits have expanded the prole count to the point where they cannot control them.

 

[candycorn]

Call us when they have 30000 gun deaths per year.

That you can itemize their incidents of gun violence underscores how much better their system is

 

[2aguy]

Call us when they have 30000 gun deaths per year.

That you can itemize their incidents of gun violence underscores how much better their system is

Get back to us when you can separate suicides from the deliberate criminal use of a gun to take a life.....

2017......10,982 gun murders.

From the Centers for Disease Control? Americans use their legal guns 1.1 million times a year to stop violent criminals and to save lives.....

Can you tell which number is bigger?

 

[BULLDOG]

So...with these shooters, which British gun control law stopped them from entering a church, mall, theater or school and shooting people....I will wait patiently while the anti-gunners tell us the name of the gun control law...

Shots fired on our streets NINE times in 2019 as gun crime crisis returns

Two horrifying shootings on the streets of Merseyside in the space of an hour marked the ninth time shots were fired on our streets this year.

Just six weeks into 2019, Merseyside has already seen one fatal shooting, targeted attacks and guns fired at houses across the city.

Since the start of the year, we have reported on nine separate incidents where guns were fired on Merseyside's streets.

From a dad being assassinated while he waited to collect his daughter from dance class to houses being shot up by gunmen in the street, these are the stories of Merseyside's gun crime crisis.

In light of the most recent horrific shootings, we looked back at six weeks of gun violence on Merseyside.

Oh My. Nine times so far this year. There are more shots than that fired here each hour. We should do what they are doing.

 

[Vagabond63]

So...with these shooters, which British gun control law stopped them from entering a church, mall, theater or school and shooting people....I will wait patiently while the anti-gunners tell us the name of the gun control law...

That would be the Firearms Act 1997 and the Firearms (ammendment #2) Act 1997.

Shootings in UK Churches since 1997= 0
Shootings in UK Malls since 1997 = 1 Technically, as it was a kid with a BB gun, but it was still an illegal firearm.
Shootings in UK Theatres since 1997 = 0
Shootings in UK schools since 1997 = 0

Happy to help. Next?

 

[Crepitus]

So...with these shooters, which British gun control law stopped them from entering a church, mall, theater or school and shooting people....I will wait patiently while the anti-gunners tell us the name of the gun control law...

Shots fired on our streets NINE times in 2019 as gun crime crisis returns

Two horrifying shootings on the streets of Merseyside in the space of an hour marked the ninth time shots were fired on our streets this year.

Just six weeks into 2019, Merseyside has already seen one fatal shooting, targeted attacks and guns fired at houses across the city.

Since the start of the year, we have reported on nine separate incidents where guns were fired on Merseyside's streets.

From a dad being assassinated while he waited to collect his daughter from dance class to houses being shot up by gunmen in the street, these are the stories of Merseyside's gun crime crisis.

In light of the most recent horrific shootings, we looked back at six weeks of gun violence on Merseyside.

None times a month?!?!?!!?!

Crap on a crutch kid, you are trying too hard.

 

[2aguy]

So...with these shooters, which British gun control law stopped them from entering a church, mall, theater or school and shooting people....I will wait patiently while the anti-gunners tell us the name of the gun control law...

That would be the Firearms Act 1997 and the Firearms (ammendment #2) Act 1997.

Shootings in UK Churches since 1997= 0
Shootings in UK Malls since 1997 = 1 Technically, as it was a kid with a BB gun, but it was still an illegal firearm.
Shootings in UK Theatres since 1997 = 0
Shootings in UK schools since 1997 = 0

Happy to help. Next?

Over the last few years your police managed to stop 4 mass public shootings by arresting the shooters before they acted.....how did they manage this? Dumb luck. They had guns, they had intent, they were stopped not because of British gun control, but because the police got lucky.....

And again........I notice you didn't answer the question...which British gun control laws stopped these shooters, with guns, from walking into a church, a mall, a theater or a school...with the illegal gun they already had in their possession which they then went on to shoot in public? Please...tell us which British gun control law stopped them.

And which British gun control law stopped these shooters?

Children among 10 people in hospital after mass shooting in Manchester

Ten people, including two children, were taken to hospital after a shooting at a street party in the Moss Side area of Manchester.

Armed police officers rushed to the scene on a residential street at 2.30am on Sunday, where a party was being held following a Caribbean Carnival at a nearby park.

Teenage boys planned to 'kill everyone' at Yorkshire school in Columbine-style gun and bomb massacre, court hears

Two teenage boys planned to “kill everyone” at their Yorkshireschool in a Columbine-style massacre using bombs and guns, a court has heard.

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The document said the boy would “lay low” in Catterick before murdering his ex-girlfriend’s parents and stealing her father’s guns, the court heard.

“I’ll make some explosives then well find a way back to Northallerton and well begin our assault on that f****** school,” it continued

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"This was no teenage fantasy; it was real,” he added. “They intended a re-enactment of the Columbine High School Massacre although fortunately, in the result, they were stopped before their plans were put into action.”

.4/6/18

Doctor found with stash of guns and NHS hitlist jailed

A former doctor has been sentenced to 12 years in prison for stockpiling guns with the intent to endanger life.

Martin Watt was found with three submachine guns, two pistols and 1,500 live cartridges at a property in Cumbernauld, Scotland, last year.

The 62-year-old had lost his job at Monklands hospital in North Lanarkshire in 2012 after disciplinary hearings. His marriage broke down around the same time, the high court in Glasgow was told.

Watt had compiled a list of names and addresses of some colleagues involved in the disciplinary process, which the judge, Valerie Stacey, said Watt had referred to as an assassination list.
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British teen sentenced to life for planned school attack

Despite some of the tightest gun control on the planet, a British man was able to acquire a handgun, extended mags and explosives as part of a plot to attack his former school.

Liam Lyburd, 19, of Newcastle upon Tyne, was sentenced to life imprisonment this week on eight charges of possessing weapons with intent to endanger life.

As noted by the BBC, Lyburd gathered a cache that included a Glock 19, three 33-round magazines, 94 hollow-point bullets, CS gas, five pipe bombs and two other improvised explosive devices despite the country’s long history of civilian arms control.

According to court documents, Lyburd planned to use the weapons in an attack on Newcastle College, from which he had been expelled two years prior for poor attendance. He was arrested last November after two Northumbria Police constables visited him at his home on a tip from an individual who encountered threats and disturbing pictures posted by Lyburd online.

Despite a defense that portrayed the reclusive man as living in a fantasy world, Lyburd was found guilty in July.

The internet-savvy teen obtained the Glock and other items through Evolution Marketplace, a successor to the Silk Road, a long-time “dark web” site in which users could buy and sell everything from illegal narcotics to munitions using Bitcoin cryptocurrency.

In court, Lyburd testified that buying the Glock was so easy it was “like buying a bar of chocolate.”

He obtained funds for his purchases through a complex extortion scheme in which he used online malware to infect computers, which he in turn held for ransom from their owners.

====Teenage boy 'took shotgun to school after being bullied for being fat'


15-year-old boy arrested for taking shotgun and ammunition into school did it because he was being bullied for being too fat, fellow pupils said.

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'Gunman' walks into Liverpool nursery school as children were playing inside

Police have sealed off a children's nursery in Liverpool amid reports a gunman walked into the building while youngsters were inside.

Officers were called to Childs Play Nursery in Wavertree, Merseyside, at around 8am this morning.

The man, who is believed to have been carrying what looked like a firearm, walked into the nursery and approached another man.

He then left with a second man on the back of a motorbike.



What kept this from becoming a mass shooting?

 

[Vagabond63]

And again........I notice you didn't answer the question...which British gun control laws stopped these shooters, with guns, from walking into a church, a mall, a theater or a school...with the illegal gun they already had in their possession which they then went on to shoot in public? Please...tell us which British gun control law stopped them.

In case you missed it the last few times I answered, That would be the Firearms Act 1997 and the Firearms (ammendment #2) Act 1997.

Shootings in UK Churches since 1997= 0
Shootings in UK Malls since 1997 = 1 Technically, as it was a kid with a BB gun, but it was still an illegal firearm.
Shootings in UK Theatres since 1997 = 0
Shootings in UK schools since 1997 = 0

Happy to help. Next?

Also how many mass shootings were stopped by American police before they happened? The point you miss is, that without gun control in place, potential mass shooters would have just had to walk into their local gun shop and walk out with an arsenal to carry out their plans.

 

[Blues Man]

Call us when they have 30000 gun deaths per year.

That you can itemize their incidents of gun violence underscores how much better their system is

The Suicide rate in the US is 14 per 100K
In the UK it is 10 per 100K

It seems that gun laws don't do much to lower suicide rates so maybe you should leave suicides out of the equation

 

[candycorn]

Call us when they have 30000 gun deaths per year.

That you can itemize their incidents of gun violence underscores how much better their system is

The Suicide rate in the US is 14 per 100K
In the UK it is 10 per 100K

It seems that gun laws don't do much to lower suicide rates so maybe you should leave suicides out of the equation

Suicide attempts would remain attempts if the lethality of means available were reduced.

 

[Blues Man]

Call us when they have 30000 gun deaths per year.

That you can itemize their incidents of gun violence underscores how much better their system is

The Suicide rate in the US is 14 per 100K
In the UK it is 10 per 100K

It seems that gun laws don't do much to lower suicide rates so maybe you should leave suicides out of the equation

Suicide attempts would remain attempts if the lethality of means available were reduced.

No they would just find another way to kill themselves.

Half of all suicides are committed without guns

 

[candycorn]

Call us when they have 30000 gun deaths per year.

That you can itemize their incidents of gun violence underscores how much better their system is

The Suicide rate in the US is 14 per 100K
In the UK it is 10 per 100K

It seems that gun laws don't do much to lower suicide rates so maybe you should leave suicides out of the equation

Suicide attempts would remain attempts if the lethality of means available were reduced.

No they would just find another way to kill themselves.

Half of all suicides are committed without guns

Thanks for your Amateur opinion.

Here is an informed one:

 

[Blues Man]

Call us when they have 30000 gun deaths per year.

That you can itemize their incidents of gun violence underscores how much better their system is

The Suicide rate in the US is 14 per 100K
In the UK it is 10 per 100K

It seems that gun laws don't do much to lower suicide rates so maybe you should leave suicides out of the equation

Suicide attempts would remain attempts if the lethality of means available were reduced.

No they would just find another way to kill themselves.

Half of all suicides are committed without guns

Thanks for your Amateur opinion.

Here is an informed one:

View attachment 247956

Seems you don't know how to read your own chart

That is for the lethality of suicide attempts by the method chosen not the number of suicides

Half of all suicides are committed without guns

 

[candycorn]

Call us when they have 30000 gun deaths per year.

That you can itemize their incidents of gun violence underscores how much better their system is

The Suicide rate in the US is 14 per 100K
In the UK it is 10 per 100K

It seems that gun laws don't do much to lower suicide rates so maybe you should leave suicides out of the equation

Suicide attempts would remain attempts if the lethality of means available were reduced.

No they would just find another way to kill themselves.

Half of all suicides are committed without guns

Thanks for your Amateur opinion.

Here is an informed one:

View attachment 247956

Seems you don't know how to read your own chart

That is for the lethality of suicide attempts by the method chosen not the number of suicides

Half of all suicides are committed without guns

MY point is…

Suicide attempts would remain attempts if the lethality of means available were reduced.

82% of attempts by gun are successful.
Fewer guns means fewer dead people.
For most of us, that’s a good thing.

 

[bodecea]

Call us when they have 30000 gun deaths per year.

That you can itemize their incidents of gun violence underscores how much better their system is

Can you just imagine how many threads our gun-ghoul would start if the UK had 30K gun deaths a year?

 

[Blues Man]

The Suicide rate in the US is 14 per 100K
In the UK it is 10 per 100K

It seems that gun laws don't do much to lower suicide rates so maybe you should leave suicides out of the equation

Suicide attempts would remain attempts if the lethality of means available were reduced.

No they would just find another way to kill themselves.

Half of all suicides are committed without guns

Thanks for your Amateur opinion.

Here is an informed one:

View attachment 247956

Seems you don't know how to read your own chart

That is for the lethality of suicide attempts by the method chosen not the number of suicides

Half of all suicides are committed without guns

MY point is…

Suicide attempts would remain attempts if the lethality of means available were reduced.

82% of attempts by gun are successful.
Fewer guns means fewer dead people.
For most of us, that’s a good thing.

that's an assumption.

anyone who really wants to commit suicide will succeed.

 

[progressive hunter]

Call us when they have 30000 gun deaths per year.

That you can itemize their incidents of gun violence underscores how much better their system is

there are far more lives saved by guns each yr than taken