Boycott Israel

[dreolin]

That's what they get for doing this:

List of Palestinian suicide attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Listen, Phoenall, with that truckload of videos supplied to Mr. Tinmore from Hamas that he has brought up so many times, you would think he could show us one which depicts all these houses being bulldozed. Personally I don't think Mr. Tinmore has any problems with his friends smuggling in weapons through tunnels to kill Israelis. You see how those dopes shoot their AK47's in the air when they are celebrating? Evidently they never heard that what goes up must come down.

There was a case some years back were a weapon was discharged in the air and the bullet came down and killed a baby, guess who was initially blamed for the death by the likes of tinny. No remorse or retraction either when it was proven that the IDF could not have fired the shot

Why don't you provide us a link from a reliable source for that.

What a ridiculous thing to say.

 

[toastman]

Israel imports weapons all the time.

Do you have a point?

Yes they don't use them to terrorise their neighbours, just to defend their civilians from attack

https://www.google.com/search?q=hom...HOyAH6pICQBw&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=622

Very pathetic attempt of 'Palestinian' propaganda.

Specially for someone who doesn't consider Palestinian attacks during the intifadas to be terrorism

 

[Sally]

Listen, Phoenall, with that truckload of videos supplied to Mr. Tinmore from Hamas that he has brought up so many times, you would think he could show us one which depicts all these houses being bulldozed. Personally I don't think Mr. Tinmore has any problems with his friends smuggling in weapons through tunnels to kill Israelis. You see how those dopes shoot their AK47's in the air when they are celebrating? Evidently they never heard that what goes up must come down.

There was a case some years back were a weapon was discharged in the air and the bullet came down and killed a baby, guess who was initially blamed for the death by the likes of tinny. No remorse or retraction either when it was proven that the IDF could not have fired the shot

Why don't you provide us a link from a reliable source for that.

What a ridiculous thing to say.

No one keeps old articles and pictures like you keep your computer stuffed with Arab propaganda. We all have seen pictures of your friends shooting their AK47's in the air, which is a very dangerous thing to do. By the way, if you want to search way back, Israel is always blamed for deaths that no IDF soldiers did. A case in mind is when a young boy was killed in his home, and the Palestinian woman was screaming that the IDF killed her son when, Upon investigation, it was found that the boy's death was caused by a bullet which ricocheted from the weapon the boy's uncle was using to shoot at IDF soldiers from the apartment. Now is the usual time Mr. Tinmore will pull out one of his videos that the viewers have seen before.

 

[American_Jihad]

The Guilt of Israeli Scholars

January 17, 2014 by Richard L. Cravatts

As one shocking example of how ideologically detached the professoriate of U.S. universities have become from the thought and beliefs of normal citizens, at a 2003 “peace rally” at Columbia University held to denounce America’s initiation of the liberation of Iraq from Saddam Hussein’s treachery, many were stunned and mortified when Columbia anthropology professor Nicholas De Genova asserted the insidious, perverse notion that “The only true heroes are those who find ways that help defeat the U.S. military. I personally would like to see a million Mogadishus,” alluding to the 1993 ambush and slaughter of American forces in Somalia.

Opposition to the government, its military policies, the War on Terror, the Patriot Act, extrajudicial assassinations by unmanned drones—all of these, at various times and during different presidential administrations, have drawn the condemnation of great swathes of academia, precisely because, like Professor De Genova, the academy has become ideologically imbalanced. In fact, a 2003 study, “How Politically Diverse Are the Social Sciences and Humanities?,” identified the existence of highly-biased campuses where self-identified Democrats (liberals) outnumber Republicans (conservatives) at alarming rates, with “results [that] support the view that the social science and humanities faculty are pretty much a one-party system.” The study found that the ratios between Democrats and Republicans in the different academic departments ranged from a low of 3-to-1 in Economics to a shocking 30.2-to-1 imbalance of Democrats to Republicans among Anthropology faculty, the average of the ratios being 15.1-to-1.

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But the current accusation made against Israeli scholars—which are not, tellingly, made against any other academics from any other country—that imputes a moral responsibility on Israeli academics for the political behavior of their government is particularly baleful. In this perverse assault on academic integrity, and even good sense, a whole nation of scholars is tarred with same brush of virulent anti-Israel activism, so, as commentator Howard Jacobson put it, “All are guilty by association with the heinous ideology of their country, that is to say, guilty by simple virtue of being Israelis.”

The Guilt of Israeli Scholars | FrontPage Magazine

 

[JamesBond]

Its not easy to deal with religious states. Both sides are religious and they will conflict forever.

 

[dreolin]

There was a case some years back were a weapon was discharged in the air and the bullet came down and killed a baby, guess who was initially blamed for the death by the likes of tinny. No remorse or retraction either when it was proven that the IDF could not have fired the shot

Why don't you provide us a link from a reliable source for that.

What a ridiculous thing to say.

No one keeps old articles and pictures like you keep your computer stuffed with Arab propaganda. We all have seen pictures of your friends shooting their AK47's in the air, which is a very dangerous thing to do. By the way, if you want to search way back, Israel is always blamed for deaths that no IDF soldiers did. A case in mind is when a young boy was killed in his home, and the Palestinian woman was screaming that the IDF killed her son when, Upon investigation, it was found that the boy's death was caused by a bullet which ricocheted from the weapon the boy's uncle was using to shoot at IDF soldiers from the apartment. Now is the usual time Mr. Tinmore will pull out one of his videos that the viewers have seen before.

People who speak in generalities and absolutes are frequently liars, and lazy liars at that.

"No one keeps old articles..." blah blah blah.

The atomic dog ate my hard drive...blah blah blah.

 

[Sally]

Why don't you provide us a link from a reliable source for that.

What a ridiculous thing to say.

No one keeps old articles and pictures like you keep your computer stuffed with Arab propaganda. We all have seen pictures of your friends shooting their AK47's in the air, which is a very dangerous thing to do. By the way, if you want to search way back, Israel is always blamed for deaths that no IDF soldiers did. A case in mind is when a young boy was killed in his home, and the Palestinian woman was screaming that the IDF killed her son when, Upon investigation, it was found that the boy's death was caused by a bullet which ricocheted from the weapon the boy's uncle was using to shoot at IDF soldiers from the apartment. Now is the usual time Mr. Tinmore will pull out one of his videos that the viewers have seen before.

People who speak in generalities and absolutes are frequently liars, and lazy liars at that.

"No one keeps old articles..." blah blah blah.

The atomic dog ate my hard drive...blah blah blah.

You really are funny, Mr. Seattle, since one of the biggest liars has been you for a long, long time. If you are too lazy to research for the article yourself, so be it. I know what I read, and I have a pretty good memory. So you can blah, blah, blah all your want to. It doesn't cost the readers anything.

 

[MHunterB]

https://www.google.com/#q=PEOPLE+KILLED+BY+'CELEBRATORY'+GUNFIRE

There are any number of instances from places all around the world. And 'celebratory gunfire' is more common in Arabic culture.

 

[American_Jihad]

Samar Ali: Her Father’s Organization Wants to Destroy Israel

January 20, 2014 by David James

Dr. Subhi Ali, Chairman of the Jerusalem Fund, is the father of Haslam appointee Samar Ali. Dr. Ali’s organization advocates BDS (boycott, divestment and sanctions) against Israel as a way to end Israel as a Jewish state; to destroy it by any means possible.

Hisham Sharabi, who founded the the Jerusalem Fund (JF) in 1990, along with its programmatic arms including the Palestine Center (previously named the Center for Policy Analysis on Palestine), endorsed the anti-Israel rhetoric and actions of pro-Palestinian groups like Hamas.



As detailed in Newsletter #39, Dr. Ali joined the JF in 2000, became Vice-Chair in 2004 alongside founder Sharabi and has served as Chairman since 2005.

The Hamas Charter is posted on the JF website, along with position papers and information briefs suggesting that there are positive aspects to Hamas. Is this JF’s effort to help legitimize Hamas regardless of its terrorist designation? Or is it because JF’s founder Sharabi supported Hamas’ strikes against Israel?

The terrorism financing prosecution referred to as “The Holy Foundation” (HLF) involved the largest pro-Palestinian Islamic charity in the U.S. It was designated as a “Specially Designated Global Terrorist” and shut down by the U.S. government. Its leadership was convicted for raising money for the designated terrorist group, Hamas. Just like the Jerusalem Fund, HLF’s mission was to provide humanitarian assistance to needy Palestinians living in the West Bank and Gaza. But HLF was proven to be a funding source for Hamas whose avowed purpose is to destroy Israel. The Hamas charter advocates violent jihad as the only solution. The charter identifies Hamas as Muslim Brotherhood.

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There is also the matter of Subhi Ali’s financial support for anti-Israel politicians like U.S. Rep. Cynthia McKinney. Is that why he also donated to Tennessee Senator Mark Norris?

When news first broke and questions were raised about Samar Ali’s hiring, ECD Commissioner Bill Hagerty told the June session of First Tuesday that Subhi Ali called him and asked him to look at Samar’s resume, which includes work done on behalf of the Jerusalem Fund. Sounds like Haggerty knows Subhi Ali and his family pretty well. Makes you wonder whether Haggerty agrees with their politics?

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Subhi Ali has chosen to align himself with and lead an organization that has committed itself to a course of action which at its core, is intended to destroy the State of Israel.

Politics may make strange bedfellows, but you always have a choice about who you wake up to in the morning.

Samar Ali: Her Father?s Organization Wants to Destroy Israel | FrontPage Magazine

 

[bianco]

Wonder how long it will take for her to be wearing new shoes?

 

[dreolin]

https://www.google.com/#q=PEOPLE+KILLED+BY+'CELEBRATORY'+GUNFIRE

There are any number of instances from places all around the world. And 'celebratory gunfire' is more common in Arabic culture.

She mentioned something specific. I asked her to prove it with the article.

Now, prove "celebratory gunfire" is more common in Arabic culture, or do you just say things and depend on your "good" word, because it isn't all that good with me. The link you provided seems to indicate otherwise.

 

[Phoenall]

Don't these morons calling for the boycott of Israel understand that they are the ones causing the problems for the filastins. The filastins work on the farms producing the crops that are sold all over the world, and a boycott of Israel will cause them to be made unemployed and destitute

And before Israel they worked on their own farms producing the crops that were sold all over the world.

It doesn't look like Israel is doing them a big favor.

VERY VERY FEW the majority were itinerant labourers that moved around a lot, and they worked on the same farms for the same Jews for the same wage level. The tenant farmers could not afford to employ them so they never worked on muslim farms. All in the history books that you refuse to read in case they prove you to be a RABID JEW HATING LIAR.

 

[Shaarona]

Don't these morons calling for the boycott of Israel understand that they are the ones causing the problems for the filastins. The filastins work on the farms producing the crops that are sold all over the world, and a boycott of Israel will cause them to be made unemployed and destitute

And before Israel they worked on their own farms producing the crops that were sold all over the world.

It doesn't look like Israel is doing them a big favor.

VERY VERY FEW the majority were itinerant labourers that moved around a lot, and they worked on the same farms for the same Jews for the same wage level. The tenant farmers could not afford to employ them so they never worked on muslim farms. All in the history books that you refuse to read in case they prove you to be a RABID JEW HATING LIAR.

1920

Zionist Aspirations in Palestine - 20.07

Excerpt

But the Syrian province of Palestine, about one hundred and fifty miles long and fifty miles broad, largely mountainous and sterile, contains at present a population of more than 650,000, divided as follows: Mohammedan Arabs, 515,000; Jews, 63,000; Christian Arabs, 62,000; nomadic Bedouins, 50,000; unclassified, 5000. Of these the Mohammedans and Christians are to a man bitterly opposed to any Zionist claims, whether made by would-be rulers or by settlers. It may not be generally known, but a goodly number of the Jewish dwellers in the land are not anxious to see a large immigration into the country. This is partly due to the fear that the result of such immigration would be an overcrowding of the industrial and agricultural market; but a number of the more respectable older settlers have been disgusted by the recent arrivals in Palestine of their coreligionists, unhappy individuals from Russia and Roumania brought in under the auspices of the Zionist Commission from the cities of Southeastern Europe, and neither able nor willing to work at agriculture or fruit-farming.



The old colonists believe that what is required to help the country is the immigration of a moderate number of persons, who should be in possession of some capital to invest in agriculture, or have technical knowledge of farming; not, as proposed by the Zionist Commission, an unlimited immigration of poor and ignorant people from the cities of Europe, who, if they are unable to make a living in Western cities, would most certainly starve in an Eastern agricultural country. The presence in Palestine of such agricultural experts as the late Mr. Aaronsohn, and Mr. Moses Levine of the Jewish Farm at Ben Shamer, near Ludd, both American Jews of great talent, is of the greatest advantage to the country, and is generally acknowledged so to be by all classes of the population. The arrival of more such colonists would be welcome to all but the whole population will resist the Zionist Commission's plan of wholesale immigration of Jews into Palestine at the rate of one hundred thousand a year, until a total of three millions has been reached, which number they claim the country can support if cultivated to its utmost.

 

[Phoenall]

And before Israel they worked on their own farms producing the crops that were sold all over the world.

It doesn't look like Israel is doing them a big favor.

WRONG as they had no farms being itinerant squatters, barely 1% of the Palestinians worked the land as it was too costly for them to do so.

Typical Israeli crapola.

Start @ 0:55 Then Israel brags about doing the Palestinians a favor by letting them work in Israeli greenhouses.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBPf29ZOWkg]Israeli bulldozer driver murders American peace activist - YouTube[/ame]

Again you use a very biased person to justify your POV. The history books say that the muslims could not afford to have the farms due to the way they were taxed by everyone in charge. They had to pay rent to the owners first, then had to pay for seed and suchlike from the owners, then the nomadic arabs wanted to be paid protection money, the local imams wanted their share leaving the tenant farmer with no money left for himself. The Jewish farmers paid for the land outright so they did not have to pay rent, the arab nomads did not demand protection money from them, the imams already got paid the jizya so the Jewish farmers were better off. This is not some stupid looney left neo Marxist girl spouting the lies she has been told but hard fact.

Now if it wasn't for the Jewish farms the majority of filastins would have starved before now as they don't have the brains to package and sell the goods they produce. But keep on calling for the boycott on Jewish goods, I hope you inform your doctor about your needs so he can charge you double for all your treatment. Then get rid of your computer as the code in the CPU was developed in Israel. No doubt if you look you will find plenty of other things in your home and workplace that are Israeli products and you will of course get rid of them or refuse to use them.

OR WILL YOU LIVE THE LIE AND KEEP ON USING THOSE ISRAELI PRODUCTS THAT YOU FIND A NECISSITY IN YOUR EVERY DAY LIFE AND JUST BOYCOT THOSE THAT YOU NEVER USE ANYWAY

 

[Phoenall]

How the fuck am I supposed to boycott Israel? Do they produce something that I use?

Many medicines, medical supplies, catheters for heart procedures. Then there are the chips used in computers, cell phones, car engine management systems,. Not forgetting most out of season fruit and vegetables and a lot of Christmas delicacies

 

[Phoenall]

Hamas definitely has, or at least had anti - tank missiles:

Shaar HaNegev school bus attack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Shaar HaNegev school bus attack was a missile attack on April 7, 2011, in which Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip fired a Kornet laser-guided anti-tank missile over the border at an Israeli school bus, killing a schoolboy.[1]

Hamas has anti-tank missiles and they take out a school bus but never a tank or armored bulldozer.????

This story makes absolutely no sense. It sounds like a load of BS.

Its all down to the cowardice of the muslim terrorists, a bus full of school children is not likely to fire back at a terrorist in full view aiming an anti tank weapon. They are very short range almost line of sight for a blind person, and require priming before being aimed and fired. Remember the one they tried to pass of as a video camera when the terrorist was shot before he could get the covers of.

 

[Phoenall]

You are just blowing smoke.

If importing is legal then the term smuggling does not apply. It is only used for propaganda.

Actually it is you who is always blowing smoke, Mr. Tinmore, and the Arab propaganda is some of the best in the world and you sure make use of it. Many of the tunnels were built to smuggle in weapons to kill the Jews. Other tunnels have been used to bring in expensive cars for Hamas and their friends. One time there was an article by the BBC with pictures of these tunnels. They were enormous that you could drive a huge truck through them, the type of huge truck you see delivering groceries to the supermarkets..

Irrelevant.

If importing is legal then the term smuggling does not apply. It is only used for propaganda.

Wrong as gun running is illegal all over the world, and it is frowned on by the UN. This is why they declare the blockade by Israel and Egypt to be legal because it is to stop gun running. Every nation that uses weapons against a civilian population always declares that the import and manufacture of ALL WEAPONS is legal, even chemical and biological ones.

 

[Phoenall]

Remember though, this attack happened in 2011. The last time Israel had tanks in Gaza was 2008-2009.

So it's possible that they do have the weapon now, but did not before.

Also, last year a IDF jeep was hit with an anti tank missile by the Gaza border

Published on May 1, 2013

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VASERzTl70k]Incursión de bulldozers en tierras agrícolas en Khuza'a, Franja de Gaza, Palestina - YouTube[/ame]

Uploaded on Apr 23, 2010

April 22, 2010

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgjmYEuuYXQ]Israeli Bulldozers invade and destroy Palestinian land in Gaza - YouTube[/ame]

Perfectly legal under International Law and the Geneva conventions, I did not see anything but ground being destroyed in the footage. So hardly a hardship for the Palestinians who were not even using it productively.

Clutching at straws springs to mind when I see you post things like this, and then try and claim that it is illegal

 

[Phoenall]

I watched the videos and THOSE definitely don't pass the smell test.

There are plenty of articles about the rocket attack on the bus. Have a look for yourself.


And why are you so surprised that Hamas launched a rocket at a school bus ?? They are known for mainly targeting civilians.

Sure there are a lot of articles but they are all single sourced.

What advantage would Hamas gain by attacking a school bus? None. It is all negative. There is no upside at all. It would be counter to their current strategies.

Do you mean the ones that dictate they kill as many Israeli children as they can to cause the biggest amount of retaliation so they can complain about the reprisals.

 

[Phoenall]

On top of all that Tinmore, the boy's name is even mentioned on Btselem


Israeli civilians killed by Palestinians in Israel, after operation Cast Lead | B'Tselem

Fatalities after operation Cast Lead (Gaza, West Bank, total)

Palestinians killed by Israeli security forces 470 74 544
Palestinians killed by Israeli civilians 0 5 5
Israeli civilians killed by Palestinians 0 17 17
Israeli security force personnel killed by Palestinians 4 3 7

Fatalities after operation Cast Lead | B'Tselem

Proves just one thing the filistans love death as much as we love our children, that is why they put their only commodity in harms way. Time for the UN to institute a contraceptive programme in gaza and to stop the filistans breeding cannon fodder