"Black Panther" movie. Why is an all-black movie a victory for diversity?

[Asclepias]

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When the Black Panther comics started in 1966, he came from the advanced African nation of Wakanda, which of course was black. I see nothing wrong the casting, but then again, I'm not a racist, white supremacist or trump conservative.
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Nobody is complaining about the casting.

Of course they are idiot. Did you miss the title of the thread?

 

[Asclepias]

I did. It makes sense that a movie set in a fictitious African nation would have a nearly all black cast. It also makes sense the characters based on Norse mythology would be ALL WHITE.A black valkyrie, or a black Heimdall, makes no sense.

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I studied the "Prose Edda" which encompasses the myth of the Nordic gods (Odin, Thor, the Aesir, etc) The movie was NOT based on the Prose Edda but the Marvel comic books version of the Nordic gods, which definitely isn't canon. Marvel is free to adjust their own fantasy universe, the way they want.
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Of course they are free to do it.


I was not arguing that they did not have the right to do it.


My point stands.



It makes sense that a movie set in a fictitious African nation would have a nearly all black cast.


It also makes sense the characters based, even indirectly, on Norse mythology would be ALL WHITE.A black valkyrie, or a black Heimdall, makes no sense.

Bullshit. There were Black people in Norse mythology. As usual you show your illiteracy.

 

[impuretrash]

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Are you feeling genocided again because of the scary movie?

That is exactly what the left means when they say "diversity".

 

[impuretrash]

Bullshit. There were Black people in Norse mythology.

We wuz vikangs and sheiit

 

[Unkotare]

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Are you feeling genocided again because of the scary movie?

That is exactly what the left means when they say "diversity".

You must be of them to know their thoughts.

 

[Windparadox]

That is exactly what the left means when they say "diversity".

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Who said this movie is about "diversity"? The OP? Well, that's their opinion which I beg to differ with. For most of us, it's a superhero fantasy movie. So what if the cast is all black? "Roots" had an all black cast and no one cared. This isn't the 50's anymore. Many things have changed and life goes on.
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[Montrovant]

That is exactly what the left means when they say "diversity".

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Who said this movie is about "diversity"? The OP? Well, that's their opinion which I beg to differ with. For most of us, it's a superhero fantasy movie. So what if the cast is all black? "Roots" had an all black cast and no one cared. This isn't the 50's anymore. Many things have changed and life goes on.
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The cast isn't even all black.

 

[impuretrash]

You must be of them to know their thoughts.

When "increasing diversity" is the goal, in practice, it quite literally means less white people.

Inclusion & Diversity

https://jezebel.com/5302108/diversity-advocate-explains-what-not-to-say-to-white-people

Daring, diverse 'Black Panther' promises to be Hollywood's latest 'cultural touchstone'

America's Getting Less White, and That Will Save It

 

[Unkotare]

You must be of them to know their thoughts.

When "increasing diversity" is the goal, in practice, it quite literally means less white people.

Inclusion & Diversity

https://jezebel.com/5302108/diversity-advocate-explains-what-not-to-say-to-white-people

Daring, diverse 'Black Panther' promises to be Hollywood's latest 'cultural touchstone'

America's Getting Less White, and That Will Save It

On a scale of 1 to 10, how scared are you?

 

[DGS49]

"Diversity" is one of the lamest "fairness" campaigns that ever existed. A make-believe "super hero" film with a "black" star and cast is fine. It's a stupid cultural expression in any event, and if it makes some people - Black Yoots - feel better about themselves, that's fine with me. And apparently, it does. Hell, the film is a phenomenon right now in AFRICA!

 

[impuretrash]

You must be of them to know their thoughts.

When "increasing diversity" is the goal, in practice, it quite literally means less white people.

Inclusion & Diversity

https://jezebel.com/5302108/diversity-advocate-explains-what-not-to-say-to-white-people

Daring, diverse 'Black Panther' promises to be Hollywood's latest 'cultural touchstone'

America's Getting Less White, and That Will Save It

On a scale of 1 to 10, how scared are you?

I am greatly concerned about the future of this country and my people.

 

[impuretrash]

You must be of them to know their thoughts.

When "increasing diversity" is the goal, in practice, it quite literally means less white people.

Inclusion & Diversity

https://jezebel.com/5302108/diversity-advocate-explains-what-not-to-say-to-white-people

Daring, diverse 'Black Panther' promises to be Hollywood's latest 'cultural touchstone'

America's Getting Less White, and That Will Save It

On a scale of 1 to 10, how scared are you?

I am greatly concerned about the future of this country and my people.

Grow a pair.

Oh gosh when you put it like that, I am left with no choice but to abandon my entire worldview.

 

[Unkotare]

You must be of them to know their thoughts.

When "increasing diversity" is the goal, in practice, it quite literally means less white people.

Inclusion & Diversity

https://jezebel.com/5302108/diversity-advocate-explains-what-not-to-say-to-white-people

Daring, diverse 'Black Panther' promises to be Hollywood's latest 'cultural touchstone'

America's Getting Less White, and That Will Save It

On a scale of 1 to 10, how scared are you?

I am greatly concerned about the future of this country and my people.

Grow a pair.

Oh gosh when you put it like that, I am left with no choice but to abandon my entire worldview.

Your entire worldview is built around fear?

 

[impuretrash]

When "increasing diversity" is the goal, in practice, it quite literally means less white people.

Inclusion & Diversity

https://jezebel.com/5302108/diversity-advocate-explains-what-not-to-say-to-white-people

Daring, diverse 'Black Panther' promises to be Hollywood's latest 'cultural touchstone'

America's Getting Less White, and That Will Save It

On a scale of 1 to 10, how scared are you?

I am greatly concerned about the future of this country and my people.

Grow a pair.

Oh gosh when you put it like that, I am left with no choice but to abandon my entire worldview.

Your entire worldview is built around fear?

Uh...no.

 

[Correll]

I did. It makes sense that a movie set in a fictitious African nation would have a nearly all black cast. It also makes sense the characters based on Norse mythology would be ALL WHITE.A black valkyrie, or a black Heimdall, makes no sense.

`
I studied the "Prose Edda" which encompasses the myth of the Nordic gods (Odin, Thor, the Aesir, etc) The movie was NOT based on the Prose Edda but the Marvel comic books version of the Nordic gods, which definitely isn't canon. Marvel is free to adjust their own fantasy universe, the way they want.
`

Of course they are free to do it.


I was not arguing that they did not have the right to do it.


My point stands.



It makes sense that a movie set in a fictitious African nation would have a nearly all black cast.


It also makes sense the characters based, even indirectly, on Norse mythology would be ALL WHITE.A black valkyrie, or a black Heimdall, makes no sense.

“Nearly all black” is ok, but “nearly all white” isn’t white enough for ya? Picky, picky

The situations, while similar are different.


It makes sense to have a movie set in a fictitious African natin to have a nearly all black cast.


I It also makes sense the characters based, even indirectly, on Norse mythology would be ALL WHITE.


A black valkyrie, or a black Heimdall, makes no sense.

 

[Correll]

I did. It makes sense that a movie set in a fictitious African nation would have a nearly all black cast. It also makes sense the characters based on Norse mythology would be ALL WHITE.A black valkyrie, or a black Heimdall, makes no sense.

`
I studied the "Prose Edda" which encompasses the myth of the Nordic gods (Odin, Thor, the Aesir, etc) The movie was NOT based on the Prose Edda but the Marvel comic books version of the Nordic gods, which definitely isn't canon. Marvel is free to adjust their own fantasy universe, the way they want.
`

Of course they are free to do it.


I was not arguing that they did not have the right to do it.


My point stands.



It makes sense that a movie set in a fictitious African nation would have a nearly all black cast.


It also makes sense the characters based, even indirectly, on Norse mythology would be ALL WHITE.A black valkyrie, or a black Heimdall, makes no sense.

Bullshit. There were Black people in Norse mythology. As usual you show your illiteracy.

Black valkyries? A black Heimdal?

Or are you just spewing your normal bullshit.

 

[Correll]

That is exactly what the left means when they say "diversity".

`
Who said this movie is about "diversity"? The OP? Well, that's their opinion which I beg to differ with. For most of us, it's a superhero fantasy movie. So what if the cast is all black? "Roots" had an all black cast and no one cared. This isn't the 50's anymore. Many things have changed and life goes on.
`

Examining a culture's stories to discuss the culture is completely reasonable.


You don't have to participate if you don't want to.

 

[Montrovant]

I did. It makes sense that a movie set in a fictitious African nation would have a nearly all black cast. It also makes sense the characters based on Norse mythology would be ALL WHITE.A black valkyrie, or a black Heimdall, makes no sense.

`
I studied the "Prose Edda" which encompasses the myth of the Nordic gods (Odin, Thor, the Aesir, etc) The movie was NOT based on the Prose Edda but the Marvel comic books version of the Nordic gods, which definitely isn't canon. Marvel is free to adjust their own fantasy universe, the way they want.
`

Of course they are free to do it.


I was not arguing that they did not have the right to do it.


My point stands.



It makes sense that a movie set in a fictitious African nation would have a nearly all black cast.


It also makes sense the characters based, even indirectly, on Norse mythology would be ALL WHITE.A black valkyrie, or a black Heimdall, makes no sense.

“Nearly all black” is ok, but “nearly all white” isn’t white enough for ya? Picky, picky

The situations, while similar are different.


It makes sense to have a movie set in a fictitious African natin to have a nearly all black cast.


I It also makes sense the characters based, even indirectly, on Norse mythology would be ALL WHITE.


A black valkyrie, or a black Heimdall, makes no sense.

The MCU Asgardians aren't even the same as the comic Asgardians. In the comics, so far as I know, they are actual gods. In the MCU, they made them into some sort of aliens.

In either case, I think that a little racial diversity does not have to hurt the whole. Yes, it would make sense for Asgardians to be white because of the mythology they are based on. However, having a few non-white characters in the MCU version of Asgard does not take away from the story, IMO. Similarly, yes, it makes sense to have the citizens of a fictional African country be black. However, were they to have added some non-black Wakandans, that also could have worked, given the right story. Having not seen the movie, I don't know if race played much of a part or if non-black Wakandan characters would have hurt the story, but I'm certain it is possible to write a Black Panther story in which some Wakandans are not black.

The big difference, I think, is that seeing a nearly all-white cast is (or has been) somewhat common in this kind of blockbuster action movie, while seeing a nearly all-black cast is far less common.

 

[Correll]

I did. It makes sense that a movie set in a fictitious African nation would have a nearly all black cast. It also makes sense the characters based on Norse mythology would be ALL WHITE.A black valkyrie, or a black Heimdall, makes no sense.

`
I studied the "Prose Edda" which encompasses the myth of the Nordic gods (Odin, Thor, the Aesir, etc) The movie was NOT based on the Prose Edda but the Marvel comic books version of the Nordic gods, which definitely isn't canon. Marvel is free to adjust their own fantasy universe, the way they want.
`

Of course they are free to do it.


I was not arguing that they did not have the right to do it.


My point stands.



It makes sense that a movie set in a fictitious African nation would have a nearly all black cast.


It also makes sense the characters based, even indirectly, on Norse mythology would be ALL WHITE.A black valkyrie, or a black Heimdall, makes no sense.

“Nearly all black” is ok, but “nearly all white” isn’t white enough for ya? Picky, picky

The situations, while similar are different.


It makes sense to have a movie set in a fictitious African natin to have a nearly all black cast.


I It also makes sense the characters based, even indirectly, on Norse mythology would be ALL WHITE.


A black valkyrie, or a black Heimdall, makes no sense.

The MCU Asgardians aren't even the same as the comic Asgardians. In the comics, so far as I know, they are actual gods. In the MCU, they made them into some sort of aliens.

In either case, I think that a little racial diversity does not have to hurt the whole. Yes, it would make sense for Asgardians to be white because of the mythology they are based on. However, having a few non-white characters in the MCU version of Asgard does not take away from the story, IMO. Similarly, yes, it makes sense to have the citizens of a fictional African country be black. However, were they to have added some non-black Wakandans, that also could have worked, given the right story. Having not seen the movie, I don't know if race played much of a part or if non-black Wakandan characters would have hurt the story, but I'm certain it is possible to write a Black Panther story in which some Wakandans are not black.

It does make sense to have Wakandans be black. Ginning up a bullshit story that would not contribute to the movie to justify having some non black Wakandans would hurt the movie as it adds MORE suspension of disbelief and wastes screen time without advancing the actual plot or character development.


Ditto Asgardians.

The big difference, I think, is that seeing a nearly all-white cast is (or has been) somewhat common in this kind of blockbuster action movie, while seeing a nearly all-black cast is far less common.

I agree.

 

[Unkotare]

I did. It makes sense that a movie set in a fictitious African nation would have a nearly all black cast. It also makes sense the characters based on Norse mythology would be ALL WHITE.A black valkyrie, or a black Heimdall, makes no sense.

`
I studied the "Prose Edda" which encompasses the myth of the Nordic gods (Odin, Thor, the Aesir, etc) The movie was NOT based on the Prose Edda but the Marvel comic books version of the Nordic gods, which definitely isn't canon. Marvel is free to adjust their own fantasy universe, the way they want.
`

Of course they are free to do it.


I was not arguing that they did not have the right to do it.


My point stands.



It makes sense that a movie set in a fictitious African nation would have a nearly all black cast.


It also makes sense the characters based, even indirectly, on Norse mythology would be ALL WHITE.A black valkyrie, or a black Heimdall, makes no sense.

“Nearly all black” is ok, but “nearly all white” isn’t white enough for ya? Picky, picky

The situations, while similar are different......

How fucking ridiculous can you get?