"Bishop" Romney Urged Single Mother to give up Baby

[Katzndogz]

I used to work for a Mormon. Wonderful man, great family and very generous. I shoud vote for Romney based on that alone!

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Sure there is. It's called REVENGE.

I've been evening the score for 30 years now.

AKA

A shallow individual

Nope. Just one evening a score. You wrong me, I wrong back. I never start a fight, but I'm always ready to finish one.

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[imbalance]

All true from what I have learned, Catholics were persecuted also. Placing faith in God before the Fuhrer was forbidden.

That's nothing new. Christians have been warring between each other's faiths for centuries. King Charlemange went through Europe dragging various people out of their homes and had them swear fealty to his brand of Christianity or loose their heads. Christian Knights ravaged Constantinople while it was inhabited by Greek Orthodox Christians and cooked their children on spits.

Great religion.

lol don't blame the actual big-gov barbarians who slaughtered innocent civilians just blame the spiritual philosophy they hijacked and bastardized.

 

[Sallow]

All true from what I have learned, Catholics were persecuted also. Placing faith in God before the Fuhrer was forbidden.

That's nothing new. Christians have been warring between each other's faiths for centuries. King Charlemange went through Europe dragging various people out of their homes and had them swear fealty to his brand of Christianity or loose their heads. Christian Knights ravaged Constantinople while it was inhabited by Greek Orthodox Christians and cooked their children on spits.

Great religion.

Hitler hated religious faith. The REICH came first to him.

His quotes and behavior say otherwise.

The Reich was dedicated to furthering Christian values.

It was no mistake that the Jews were persecuted. It's been the doctrine of most Christian faiths for centuries to do this. The main mission of the Spanish Inquistion was the oust the Jews.

 

[candycorn]

Read about it here...

Bishop Romney Pressured Single Mother To Give Up Baby, Book Says

Peggie Hayes had converted to Mormonism as a teenage along with her family, and told the book’s authors, Boston Globe reporters Michael Kranish and Scott Helman, that for a long time she found comfort in the faith’s teachings. After returning to the congregation as a 23-year-old divorced single mother, she soon got pregnant with a second child. Knowing she was in need of financial assistance, the Romneys arranged for her to do odd jobs for members of the congregation.

“Mitt was really good to us,” Hayes told the authors. “He did a lot for us.”

But while Hayes considered Romney a friend, he was also her bishop—which meant it was his job to pass along sometimes-harsh church counsel. The tension between the two relationships came to the forefront one day when he came over to her apartment, and encouraged her to turn her son over to the church’s adoption agency when he was born. (The church’s position is that if a happy marriage between parents of a newborn seems unlikely, adoption is preferable to single parenting.)

Hayes was offended by the suggestion, and told Romney she would never give up her son. But, according to Hayes, Romney told her, “Well, this is what the church wants you to do, and if you don’t, then you could be excommunicated for failing to follow the leadership of the church.”

Though she was defiant, the authors write, “In that moment, she also felt intimidated. Here was Romney, who held great power as her church leader and was the head of a wealthy, prominent Belmont family, sitting in her gritty apartment making grave demands.”

This woman had the good sense to get the hell out of Mormonism after that.

At no point have I ever been more proud to not have been a member of the Republican Party. Not because Romney is a Republican but because Joe is.

 

[clevergirl]

Fyodor Dostoyevsky wrote in The Brothers Karamazov ~1880:

"We are not particularly afraid of all these socialists, anarchists, atheists, and revolutionists; we keep watch on them and follow all of their doings. But there are a few peculiar men among them who believe in God and are Christians, but are at the same time socialists. Those are the people we are most afraid of... The Christian who is a socialist is to be dreaded far more than the socialist who is an atheist."

I guess he nailed that one.

I absolutely LOVED The Brothers Karamazov! And yes, that quote sums up the real threat- Namely those men and women who are in fact Wolves in Sheep's clothing.

 

[Peach]

That's nothing new. Christians have been warring between each other's faiths for centuries. King Charlemange went through Europe dragging various people out of their homes and had them swear fealty to his brand of Christianity or loose their heads. Christian Knights ravaged Constantinople while it was inhabited by Greek Orthodox Christians and cooked their children on spits.

Great religion.

Hitler hated religious faith. The REICH came first to him.

His quotes and behavior say otherwise.

The Reich was dedicated to furthering Christian values.

It was no mistake that the Jews were persecuted. It's been the doctrine of most Christian faiths for centuries to do this. The main mission of the Spanish Inquistion was the oust the Jews.

Hitler BEGAN spouting Christianity, he turned it to faith in the FUHRER!

 

[The T]

Hitler hated religious faith. The REICH came first to him.

His quotes and behavior say otherwise.

The Reich was dedicated to furthering Christian values.

It was no mistake that the Jews were persecuted. It's been the doctrine of most Christian faiths for centuries to do this. The main mission of the Spanish Inquistion was the oust the Jews.

Hitler BEGAN spouting Christianity, he turned it to faith in the FUHRER!

He also spouted worker rights...until the workers helped him IN...and then all bets were off.

 

[BDBoop]

I used to work for a Mormon. Wonderful man, great family and very generous. I shoud vote for Romney based on that alone!

And chances are excellent he would have had all those personality traits regardless of his belief system, because that's how the world works. I take LDS claims. Most times, I'm talking to really nice people. But that's true of every client we have. That's why I love my job. I'm not going to say they're nice because they're LDS. They're just nice.

 

[Peach]

His quotes and behavior say otherwise.

The Reich was dedicated to furthering Christian values.

It was no mistake that the Jews were persecuted. It's been the doctrine of most Christian faiths for centuries to do this. The main mission of the Spanish Inquistion was the oust the Jews.

Hitler BEGAN spouting Christianity, he turned it to faith in the FUHRER!

He also spouted worker rights...until the workers helped him IN...and then all bets were off.

Also true; Hitler on Christianity:

Was Hitler a Christian?

 

[Sallow]

All true from what I have learned, Catholics were persecuted also. Placing faith in God before the Fuhrer was forbidden.

That's nothing new. Christians have been warring between each other's faiths for centuries. King Charlemange went through Europe dragging various people out of their homes and had them swear fealty to his brand of Christianity or loose their heads. Christian Knights ravaged Constantinople while it was inhabited by Greek Orthodox Christians and cooked their children on spits.

Great religion.

lol don't blame the actual big-gov barbarians who slaughtered innocent civilians just blame the spiritual philosophy they hijacked and bastardized.

Hijacked? Since when?

The Bible is filled with all sorts of acts of violence in the name of "god". Heck..even god gets into the act and completely obliterates whole races of people. The bible advocates for killing people who don't follow the religion, homosexuals, and slavery. It was only very recently that Pope John Paul recognized that the Holocaust was wrong because it "misinterpreted" the bible and that all Christian faiths..are essentially Christian. Once Benedict got in, however, he started shit with the Muslims..which he had to walk back.

It's a laugh riot. You betcha.

 

[clevergirl]

That's nothing new. Christians have been warring between each other's faiths for centuries. King Charlemange went through Europe dragging various people out of their homes and had them swear fealty to his brand of Christianity or loose their heads. Christian Knights ravaged Constantinople while it was inhabited by Greek Orthodox Christians and cooked their children on spits.

Great religion.

Hitler hated religious faith. The REICH came first to him.

His quotes and behavior say otherwise.

The Reich was dedicated to furthering Christian values.

It was no mistake that the Jews were persecuted. It's been the doctrine of most Christian faiths for centuries to do this. The main mission of the Spanish Inquistion was the oust the Jews.

More incompetent history lessons from you.

Hitler was not a Christian. The Spanish Inquisition was an atrocity committed by wicked authoritarian's who themselves were taking the name of Christ in vain. Its goal was to force all who did not renounce their faith for that of Roman Catholicism, be killed- The result of Jews AND protestants fleeing, did not make either incident "its main mission".

 

[del]

You know, if you're going to invent a religion, the least you could do is invent one that shows at least some attention to the concept of human decency.

yeah, you're an expert

 

[Sallow]

Hitler hated religious faith. The REICH came first to him.

His quotes and behavior say otherwise.

The Reich was dedicated to furthering Christian values.

It was no mistake that the Jews were persecuted. It's been the doctrine of most Christian faiths for centuries to do this. The main mission of the Spanish Inquistion was the oust the Jews.

Hitler BEGAN spouting Christianity, he turned it to faith in the FUHRER!

Exactly which Christian leader hasn't done this?

Hitler is singled out because it was so recent, relatively.

 

[imbalance]

That's nothing new. Christians have been warring between each other's faiths for centuries. King Charlemange went through Europe dragging various people out of their homes and had them swear fealty to his brand of Christianity or loose their heads. Christian Knights ravaged Constantinople while it was inhabited by Greek Orthodox Christians and cooked their children on spits.

Great religion.

lol don't blame the actual big-gov barbarians who slaughtered innocent civilians just blame the spiritual philosophy they hijacked and bastardized.

Hijacked? Since when?

The Bible is filled with all sorts of acts of violence in the name of "god". Heck..even god gets into the act and completely obliterates whole races of people. The bible advocates for killing people who don't follow the religion, homosexuals, and slavery. It was only very recently that Pope John Paul recognized that the Holocaust was wrong because it "misinterpreted" the bible and that all Christian faiths..are essentially Christian. Once Benedict got in, however, he started shit with the Muslims..which he had to walk back.

It's a laugh riot. You betcha.

I'll be honest I'm not exactly a Bible scholar but what you speak of sounds like the Old Testament. I say that because it seems to conflict with the Golden Rule which as far as I know was about the only command Jesus ever gave to anyone.

 

[clevergirl]

His quotes and behavior say otherwise.

The Reich was dedicated to furthering Christian values.

It was no mistake that the Jews were persecuted. It's been the doctrine of most Christian faiths for centuries to do this. The main mission of the Spanish Inquistion was the oust the Jews.

Hitler BEGAN spouting Christianity, he turned it to faith in the FUHRER!

Exactly which Christian leader hasn't done this?

Hitler is singled out because it was so recent, relatively.

John F. Kennedy was a Catholic just like Hitler. Hummm could that mean he was going to become a Hitler had he not been assassinated? Yes, the logic of faux intellectuals are summed up well when reading your posts~

 

[Peach]

His quotes and behavior say otherwise.

The Reich was dedicated to furthering Christian values.

It was no mistake that the Jews were persecuted. It's been the doctrine of most Christian faiths for centuries to do this. The main mission of the Spanish Inquistion was the oust the Jews.

Hitler BEGAN spouting Christianity, he turned it to faith in the FUHRER!

Exactly which Christian leader hasn't done this?

Hitler is singled out because it was so recent, relatively.

The Pope, Billy Graham, William Law, Corrie Ten Boom, the list goes on.

 

[clevergirl]

lol don't blame the actual big-gov barbarians who slaughtered innocent civilians just blame the spiritual philosophy they hijacked and bastardized.

Hijacked? Since when?

The Bible is filled with all sorts of acts of violence in the name of "god". Heck..even god gets into the act and completely obliterates whole races of people. The bible advocates for killing people who don't follow the religion, homosexuals, and slavery. It was only very recently that Pope John Paul recognized that the Holocaust was wrong because it "misinterpreted" the bible and that all Christian faiths..are essentially Christian. Once Benedict got in, however, he started shit with the Muslims..which he had to walk back.

It's a laugh riot. You betcha.

I'll be honest I'm not exactly a Bible scholar but what you speak of sounds like the Old Testament. I say that because it seems to conflict with the Golden Rule which as far as I know was about the only command Jesus ever gave to anyone.

Christ was the goal of the OT- not a new plan.

 

[chanel]

His quotes and behavior say otherwise.

The Reich was dedicated to furthering Christian values.

It was no mistake that the Jews were persecuted. It's been the doctrine of most Christian faiths for centuries to do this. The main mission of the Spanish Inquistion was the oust the Jews.

Hitler BEGAN spouting Christianity, he turned it to faith in the FUHRER!

Exactly which Christian leader hasn't done this?

Hitler is singled out because it was so recent, relatively.

Are you referring to Pres Obama sallow? Tsk. Tsk. You could be risking ex-communication of the Church of Big Brother.

 

[Sallow]

Hitler BEGAN spouting Christianity, he turned it to faith in the FUHRER!

Exactly which Christian leader hasn't done this?

Hitler is singled out because it was so recent, relatively.

John F. Kennedy was a Catholic just like Hitler. Hummm could that mean he was going to become a Hitler had he not been assassinated? Yes, the logic of faux intellectuals are summed up well when reading your posts~

Actually..he wasn't. Much like Washington, Jefferson, Hamilton and others..he was very secular. He rarely mentioned religion and only to respond to critics.