David Jeffrey Spetch
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No matter anyones theories, claiming you recognize the fact that energy & matter were around before any so called big bang could occur is acknowledging recognition of the fact that the big bang as proof of origin is falsified by the fact that for any bang to occur no matter how large or small it first takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter.
You keep desperately scrambling to try and make your delusions the issue because you are unable to contest with so much as a shred of validity the fact that it takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter or the fact that not anything goes poof into existence out of nothingness which is the factual evidence which has so very easily falsified the big bang theory as proof of origin. Your deliberate ignorance is transparent.
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Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada?[/
claiming you recognize the fact that energy & matter were around before any so called big bang could occur is acknowledging recognition of the fact that the big bang as proof of origin is falsified by the fact that for any bang to occur no matter how large or small it first takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter.
Why do you feel the Big Bang is falsified by the existence of matter before the Big Bang?
The big bang as proof of origin is falsified by the existence of that which existed before any such bang can occur.
If everything were ever in steady state, it would always be in steady state because everything would be the same thus no catalyst for change. For two photons to come together it first takes a force of energy and matter which proves steady state theory as false because for example, it takes a great mass of combined energy and matter particles such as the sun to send an electron into a positron thus creating the photon before the photon has the potential to collide with another photon thus creating two electron positron pairs.
Yeah, I've already been through all of this over the years several times.
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Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada?
thus creating the photon before the photon has the potential to collide with another photon
When did photons start colliding with photons? Link?
LMAO @ when, you mean as in you were unaware that this occurs?!
type photons colliding with photons in search, or here is a quick wiki link to get you started. Two-photon physics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada
The big bang as proof of origin is falsified by the existence of that which existed before any such bang can occur.
Why do you feel that?
When did photons start colliding with photons? Link?
LMAO @ when, you mean as in you were unaware that this occurs?!
Thanks for the link. Lot's of neat stuff there.
One thing missing was photons colliding.
Thanks for the laugh.
I recognize the fact that it takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter of which no bang can occur without there first be energy matter and time to re create energy and matter which is the factual evidence that proves that the big bang theory as proof of origin is false.
Like I said, that will get you started and yes it does give brief description of the result of photons colliding without mentioning that they are colliding. I suspect because they feel most people involved in physics get that it is the result of collision. type photons colliding in search, that's all I did and sent you the link to the first thing I saw so if you want to find more, you are capable of researching it for yourself.
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Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada?
Like I said, that will get you started and yes it does give brief description of the result of photons colliding without mentioning that they are colliding.
Colliding without colliding.
When you pull your head out of your ass, you'll realize how stupid that is.
if you want to find more, you are capable of researching it for yourself.
I don't need to find more proof of your idiocy.
I never claimed colliding without colliding but it just goes to show how pathetically desperate you are to try and make your pathetic delusions the issue and indeed it is you who needs the crow bar to wrench your head out of there long enough to see past your rectum to actually read what is there or understand the simplest of things all by yourself.
How exactly does anyone know 'energy and matter were around before the Big Bang'.
The premise that something cannot come from nothing has been proven wrong mathematically. Certainly anyone that wants to believe in a 'god' has to believe said 'god' could conjure things out of nothing. If a 'god' has to follow the same laws of physics as physical beings, does that not disqualify said deity as a deity.
And to argue YOU know something can't come from nothing is just laughable. The greatest minds that exist and have ever existed say otherwise. Have you read the book A Universe From Nothing, Lawrence Krauss? Or other works by renowned physicists?
I think the real question for individuals is, why do you need absolutes to stand on where there are none. It's because standing on moving Earth is scary. Scientists not only stand on unsteady ground they seek it out. This is the essence between dogma and enlightenment. Pushing through the fear to find the fact.
That's easy because again, not anything goes poof into existence out of nothingness because the fact remains that it takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter. No bang no matter how large or small can first occur without there first be energy matter and time to re create energy and matter. So if any bang has ever occurred, it occurred because the fact always remains that it takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter which proves that the big bang theory as proof of origin is false.
You (or anyone / any physicist etc.) go right ahead and share with us all one factual example (in English) of anything going poof into existence out of nothingness to contest with so much as a shred of validity the facts I share.
Krauss lmfao they (He and one other physicist working together at the time, forget the others name at the moment) were referring to space as the nothing which is an obvious lie and a poor attempt at trying to redefine the word. I had fun ripping them apart on that one (been through all of this with so many people over the years would likely make your head spin) I'll see if I can find one of my compositions on this subject from years ago and post the link to it here some time if and when I get the chance.
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Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada?
"That's easy because again, not anything goes poof into existence out of nothingness because the fact remains that it takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter."
Last time, this is a false premise. All the physicists in the world say so, as well as mathematicians.
YOU need to believe it, knock yourself out. But it isn't true. We don't know for sure what was before the big bang. But the best minds in the pertinent fields agree something from nothing is not only possible but probable. And for you to state YOU know there was energy and matter before the Big Bang is ludicrous and you know that. If you don't and you think YOU have figured it all out and the preeminent physicists in the world are all wrong then no need for further discussion.
Did you also spark evolution? Or are there really no living things it is all a computer simulation? LOL
Why do you seek to waste my time by making up cheap pathetic lies instead of sharing one factual example of anything going poof into existence out of nothingness? You show me one factual example from anyone that something can go poof into existence out of nothingness instead of making up lies in the form of vacant un backed claims because you and no one else that will ever exist will ever share one factual example of anything going poof into existence out of nothingness and I know this because the fact always remains that it takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter.
Facts are not believed, they are either recognized or ignored. Facts are also what falsify or verify belief since your brain appears to be way too small to realize something so simple all by yourself.
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Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada?
Post up an image of an electron. No absolute proof? Stop wasting everyone's time.
See how stupid your 'theory' is.
Absolute proof of what? I already shared factual example such as yourself and everyone else on the planet proving that it takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter in the opening post where here you are desperately scrambling to try and make your pathetic delusions the issue because you are unable to contest with so much as a shred of validity the facts I share as you not once, as no one ever will share even just one factual example of anything going poof into existence out of nothingness and that again is because the fact always remains that it takes energy matter and time to re create energy and matter.
I've seen people try allot of stupid things and these pathetic responses certainly rank in the sewer.
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Primary Factual Fundamentalist World Class Activist
David Jeffrey Spetch
Ps. Be good, be strong!
Hamilton Ontario Canada