Bernie Sanders: We Will Raise Taxes On Anyone Making Over $29,000 To Fund Government Health Care

[pknopp]

If that is what you long for well, I hope you get it.

No, I don't long for a government run healthcare system.

But that is what you are going to get by refusing to address the issue of thousands not being able to afford access to health care.

I heard Obamacare's much higher deductibles really improved access.

It didn't and you have never nor will you ever see me support it. Obama failed at nearly everything he did. My position is NOT based upon politics but people.

For those who do not want government run health care you need to come up with something else to address the issue or indeed you are going to get government run health care.

But that is what you are going to get by refusing to address the issue of thousands not being able to afford access to health care.

Thousands...…..if only we had government programs that spent hundreds of billions, over a trillion, a year.

No one cares what our bombing costs, I do not care what health care costs.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes, expensive healthcare, rationing and huge waits.....fucking awesome!

If that is what you long for well, I hope you get it.

No, I don't long for a government run healthcare system.

But that is what you are going to get by refusing to address the issue of thousands not being able to afford access to health care.

I heard Obamacare's much higher deductibles really improved access.

It didn't and you have never nor will you ever see me support it. Obama failed at nearly everything he did. My position is NOT based upon politics but people.

For those who do not want government run health care you need to come up with something else to address the issue or indeed you are going to get government run health care.

Nothing too wrong about having both.

If you are on disability for a year, you are allowed to buy into a Medicare plan. They are more than reasonable that even a person on disability could afford it.

I think we should allow people with preexisting conditions buy a Medicare plan as well. Again, very affordable and good coverage, it would take all the high risk customers out of the insurance pool so they could lower their prices, and it's something that could make the Democrats and Republicans satisfied at the same time.

 

[pknopp]

If that is what you long for well, I hope you get it.

No, I don't long for a government run healthcare system.

But that is what you are going to get by refusing to address the issue of thousands not being able to afford access to health care.

I heard Obamacare's much higher deductibles really improved access.

It didn't and you have never nor will you ever see me support it. Obama failed at nearly everything he did. My position is NOT based upon politics but people.

For those who do not want government run health care you need to come up with something else to address the issue or indeed you are going to get government run health care.

Nothing too wrong about having both.

If you are on disability for a year, you are allowed to buy into a Medicare plan. They are more than reasonable that even a person on disability could afford it.

I think we should allow people with preexisting conditions buy a Medicare plan as well. Again, very affordable and good coverage, it would take all the high risk customers out of the insurance pool so they could lower their prices, and it's something that could make the Democrats and Republicans satisfied at the same time.

It isn't just people with pre-existing conditions that can't afford medical care.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No, I don't long for a government run healthcare system.

But that is what you are going to get by refusing to address the issue of thousands not being able to afford access to health care.

I heard Obamacare's much higher deductibles really improved access.

It didn't and you have never nor will you ever see me support it. Obama failed at nearly everything he did. My position is NOT based upon politics but people.

For those who do not want government run health care you need to come up with something else to address the issue or indeed you are going to get government run health care.

Nothing too wrong about having both.

If you are on disability for a year, you are allowed to buy into a Medicare plan. They are more than reasonable that even a person on disability could afford it.

I think we should allow people with preexisting conditions buy a Medicare plan as well. Again, very affordable and good coverage, it would take all the high risk customers out of the insurance pool so they could lower their prices, and it's something that could make the Democrats and Republicans satisfied at the same time.

It isn't just people with pre-existing conditions that can't afford medical care.

Understood, but as I stated, if those people were out of the insurance pool, their prices would likely go down quite a bit, so those without preexisting conditions could afford healthcare as well; maybe even be attractive enough for employers to buy it as a benefit like it was before ObamaCare ruined it.

 

[basquebromance]

Crazy Bernie wins 50 percent of the youth vote. here's the problem: there is no youth vote!

 

[dblack]

Based on your other posts, yes. You seem to have no principled limits to what you want government in control of - other than your own personal preferences. ie you see government in fundamentally the same terms as liberals, as a tool to force your will on society. Maybe I shouldn't be busting on you for it, you're no worse than them. But Republicans make a lot of noise (at least when they're not in power) about limited government. The hypocrisy gets ugly.

Wait a minute: you mean to say that when I buy a product that may destroy property of mine, expecting government to make sure that doesn't happen is me forcing somebody to do something?

Are you actually using a Democrat's talking point list or something?

Of course government should go after businesses that commit fraud, or sell products that harm people. What's that go to do with mandating pricing policies? Nothing.

It did drift off. But the debate started with Trump mandating that prices be transparent in healthcare. I don't see anything wrong or big government about that. People should have the ability to see what procedures are going to cost them before committing to them, or see where they wish to get their healthcare serviced at.

That's not what's at issue. Trump wants to force health care providers to publicize their pricing policies. Is this new expectation going to apply to every business? Do you think you have a right to know what prices other people negotiate? Why? Why is that any of your business??

Uh...... because I'm paying for it?

What other business doesn't disclose their prices? I can't think of one. If I get my car worked on, I get an estimate first. If I have a plumbing problem that's beyond my pay grade, I can even get an estimate over the phone. It's already law that gasoline stations have to post their price in public and on the pumps. When I go to Home Depot, the prices of the items on everything they sell are all posted, or I can even get prices off the internet before I go to the store.

That's not what's in question. They'll already tell you how much it will cost beforehand. All you have to do is ask. The regulation in question isn't about them telling you how much they're going to charge you. This about them telling you how much they're charging someone else. Trump wants to force them to publish the discounts they give to insurance companies. Did you even read it?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Wait a minute: you mean to say that when I buy a product that may destroy property of mine, expecting government to make sure that doesn't happen is me forcing somebody to do something?

Are you actually using a Democrat's talking point list or something?

Of course government should go after businesses that commit fraud, or sell products that harm people. What's that go to do with mandating pricing policies? Nothing.

It did drift off. But the debate started with Trump mandating that prices be transparent in healthcare. I don't see anything wrong or big government about that. People should have the ability to see what procedures are going to cost them before committing to them, or see where they wish to get their healthcare serviced at.

That's not what's at issue. Trump wants to force health care providers to publicize their pricing policies. Is this new expectation going to apply to every business? Do you think you have a right to know what prices other people negotiate? Why? Why is that any of your business??

Uh...... because I'm paying for it?

What other business doesn't disclose their prices? I can't think of one. If I get my car worked on, I get an estimate first. If I have a plumbing problem that's beyond my pay grade, I can even get an estimate over the phone. It's already law that gasoline stations have to post their price in public and on the pumps. When I go to Home Depot, the prices of the items on everything they sell are all posted, or I can even get prices off the internet before I go to the store.

That's not what's in question. They'll already tell you how much it will cost beforehand. All you have to do is ask. The regulation in question isn't about them telling you how much they're going to charge you. This about them telling you how much they're charging someone else. Trump wants to force them to publish the discounts they give to insurance companies. Did you even read it?

I read it, but I thought your complaint is about what they charge you individually. Well.....I don't see the harm in that either. If you are a cash payer for your services, then you understand whatever they discount the insurance company, they make up on you.

My father used to brag about the senior citizens discount he got at CVS pharmacy when they opened up in this area. So I stopped by to see what my prescriptions would cost. They were the highest compared to everybody else. Yeah, my father got the great discount because of his age, and they recouped that loss on the non-senior citizens.

 

[basquebromance]

Sanders interrupted by union protesters against 'Medicare for all'

/thread

 

[dblack]

Are you actually using a Democrat's talking point list or something?

Of course government should go after businesses that commit fraud, or sell products that harm people. What's that go to do with mandating pricing policies? Nothing.

It did drift off. But the debate started with Trump mandating that prices be transparent in healthcare. I don't see anything wrong or big government about that. People should have the ability to see what procedures are going to cost them before committing to them, or see where they wish to get their healthcare serviced at.

That's not what's at issue. Trump wants to force health care providers to publicize their pricing policies. Is this new expectation going to apply to every business? Do you think you have a right to know what prices other people negotiate? Why? Why is that any of your business??

Uh...... because I'm paying for it?

What other business doesn't disclose their prices? I can't think of one. If I get my car worked on, I get an estimate first. If I have a plumbing problem that's beyond my pay grade, I can even get an estimate over the phone. It's already law that gasoline stations have to post their price in public and on the pumps. When I go to Home Depot, the prices of the items on everything they sell are all posted, or I can even get prices off the internet before I go to the store.

That's not what's in question. They'll already tell you how much it will cost beforehand. All you have to do is ask. The regulation in question isn't about them telling you how much they're going to charge you. This about them telling you how much they're charging someone else. Trump wants to force them to publish the discounts they give to insurance companies. Did you even read it?

I read it, but I thought your complaint is about what they charge you individually. Well.....I don't see the harm in that either. If you are a cash payer for your services, then you understand whatever they discount the insurance company, they make up on you.

Should this apply to all businesses? Should a car dealer be required publicize all of their negotiated sales?

Here's the thing. You're doing the same exact thing the liberals do - treating the symptoms with intrusive regulations, rather than addressing the cause. Which is, all-too-often, ill-conceived regulations like the one Trump is proposing. Government needs to stay out of the way and let 'we the people' decide, via the ultimate democracy of the market.

If consumers demand transparent pricing, they'll get it. That's how the market works. But they don't. And we need to understand why they don't. I think it's because, fundamentally, they don't care. Health care prices have risen to such a degree that, for the most part, we have two classes of health care consumers: those who are insured, and don't really care what their health care costs because they aren't paying for it, and those who aren't and don't really care what their health care costs because they're not paying for it - because they can't afford it. Their only hope is charity or state welfare.

Which means almost no one cares what health care costs. How can prices not go up in such a setting?

We need to radically de-regulate the insurance industry. The government should make sure they're not cheating people, but otherwise stay out of the way. If people want to buy insurance that doesn't cover contraceptives - let them. Let them buy whatever kind of insurance they want to buy. Or not.

So much of what we think of as regulating business is actually regulating consumers - stipulating what they are, and are not, allowed to buy.

 

[Flopper]

Good enough that you assfuck Republicans can't come up with anything better.

BTW lying piece of shit, Democrats said it needed improvements. Like any major piece of legislation.

Then why didn't they make the improvements before implementing the plan?

No one knew what improvements were needed until the plan was implemented. By then, republicans were fighting to repeal the plan and and blocking democrats attempts to fix it.

Obamacare was not really a failure. It just did not delivery everything promised. It eliminated prexisting conditions so insurance companies had to provide insurance regardless of serious illnesses. It eliminated junk insurance that allow insurance companies to sell plans that paid for low cost common medical care but failed to provide healthcare for really serious problems. It eliminated long waiting periods, up to two years of employment in some cases, and many other rather deceptive practices in the insurance industry. It required insurance companies to provide standardize benefits, making insurance easy to understand and compare. It added a lot of preventive care and provided the largest increase ever in mental health and substance abuse coverage, which was long overdue. And lastly, it increased the number insured.

It's primary failure was high cost to the insured. Insurance companies were promised subsides to keep prices low and a mandatory requirement for insurance designed increase number of customers. Obama was not able to increase subsidies significantly without congress support and republicans blocked any attempt to do so. Many exemptions were granted to the mandatory requirement and finally republicans repealed it. The result was many insurance companies exited the market in areas of the country where competition was badly needed. Needless to say premiums went up making the insurance even less affordable.

If congress had increased subsidies and maintained a mandate that everyone have insurance, rates would have been much lower and the cost to government far less than Medicare for All.

It's ironic that republican work to destroy Obamacare, a healthcare system far less socialist that most healthcare plans in the world, has created a large demand for Medicare for All, a plan far more socialist and a far bigger hit on government revenue.

Obamacare was an epic failure that gutted our healthcare system and caused the huge spike in costs we see today.
But I hope Democrats run on it.

More likely they will run on Medicare for All. After republicans succeeded in blocking all attempts by democrats to increase subsidies and completion, you are going to to get Medicare for All, the next step toward socialized medicine.

I don't see how when there's no reasonable way to fund it. Most Americans know that once you introduce a social program, you're stuck with it, just like we are with Commie Care today.

I won't say that there is no support for it. Employers dealing with the cost of rising health insurance bills, individuals forced on the program because DumBama robbed them of their employer benefits, and even people that have always funded their own, are pretty sick of dealing with it, and just wish they didn't have to any longer.

Whether you tax the rich, tax the middle-class, it's going to have a major economic impact on this country, and unlike the past, not be reversible.

The Medicare for All program can easily be sold to the public because they believe once the law is passed everybody will be moved to the current Medicare system. That will not happen because the current Medicare program is supported by the Medicare Trust Funds built on contributions from past employees and being supplemented by contributions from current employers, employees, benefices and the government. Medicare for All is a universal coverage system fully funded by the government. That will never pass congress, republican or democrat but it will sound good to the public sick of paying outlandish premiums every year and getting practically no benefits.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Then why didn't they make the improvements before implementing the plan?

No one knew what improvements were needed until the plan was implemented. By then, republicans were fighting to repeal the plan and and blocking democrats attempts to fix it.

Obamacare was not really a failure. It just did not delivery everything promised. It eliminated prexisting conditions so insurance companies had to provide insurance regardless of serious illnesses. It eliminated junk insurance that allow insurance companies to sell plans that paid for low cost common medical care but failed to provide healthcare for really serious problems. It eliminated long waiting periods, up to two years of employment in some cases, and many other rather deceptive practices in the insurance industry. It required insurance companies to provide standardize benefits, making insurance easy to understand and compare. It added a lot of preventive care and provided the largest increase ever in mental health and substance abuse coverage, which was long overdue. And lastly, it increased the number insured.

It's primary failure was high cost to the insured. Insurance companies were promised subsides to keep prices low and a mandatory requirement for insurance designed increase number of customers. Obama was not able to increase subsidies significantly without congress support and republicans blocked any attempt to do so. Many exemptions were granted to the mandatory requirement and finally republicans repealed it. The result was many insurance companies exited the market in areas of the country where competition was badly needed. Needless to say premiums went up making the insurance even less affordable.

If congress had increased subsidies and maintained a mandate that everyone have insurance, rates would have been much lower and the cost to government far less than Medicare for All.

It's ironic that republican work to destroy Obamacare, a healthcare system far less socialist that most healthcare plans in the world, has created a large demand for Medicare for All, a plan far more socialist and a far bigger hit on government revenue.

Obamacare was an epic failure that gutted our healthcare system and caused the huge spike in costs we see today.
But I hope Democrats run on it.

More likely they will run on Medicare for All. After republicans succeeded in blocking all attempts by democrats to increase subsidies and completion, you are going to to get Medicare for All, the next step toward socialized medicine.

I don't see how when there's no reasonable way to fund it. Most Americans know that once you introduce a social program, you're stuck with it, just like we are with Commie Care today.

I won't say that there is no support for it. Employers dealing with the cost of rising health insurance bills, individuals forced on the program because DumBama robbed them of their employer benefits, and even people that have always funded their own, are pretty sick of dealing with it, and just wish they didn't have to any longer.

Whether you tax the rich, tax the middle-class, it's going to have a major economic impact on this country, and unlike the past, not be reversible.

The Medicare for All program can easily be sold to the public because they believe once the law is passed everybody will be moved to the current Medicare system. That will not happen because the current Medicare program is supported by the Medicare Trust Funds built on contributions from past employees and being supplemented by contributions from current employers, employees, benefices and the government. Medicare for All is a universal coverage system fully funded by the government. That will never pass congress, republican or democrat but it will sound good to the public sick of paying outlandish premiums every year and getting practically no benefits.

I couldn't agree more. But the sheep will never understand it. Medicare is barely sustainable now. They use employee contributions via Medicare deductions, and FICA--the second highest tax out of your paycheck.

So they get into power, and even with an all Democrat government, tell certain members--those nearly at retirement age or in a very safe Democrat districts to vote against it. Then they can say they tried. But the truth is, they don't want Medicare for all either. They want Medicare for all to get into power. Then when it fails to pass, the MSM will help them out by publishing it was all the Republicans fault, even though they had no majority in the House or Senate. I mean......they are still blaming Republicans for the huge failure of Commie Care.

 

[Flopper]

No one knew what improvements were needed until the plan was implemented. By then, republicans were fighting to repeal the plan and and blocking democrats attempts to fix it.

Obamacare was not really a failure. It just did not delivery everything promised. It eliminated prexisting conditions so insurance companies had to provide insurance regardless of serious illnesses. It eliminated junk insurance that allow insurance companies to sell plans that paid for low cost common medical care but failed to provide healthcare for really serious problems. It eliminated long waiting periods, up to two years of employment in some cases, and many other rather deceptive practices in the insurance industry. It required insurance companies to provide standardize benefits, making insurance easy to understand and compare. It added a lot of preventive care and provided the largest increase ever in mental health and substance abuse coverage, which was long overdue. And lastly, it increased the number insured.

It's primary failure was high cost to the insured. Insurance companies were promised subsides to keep prices low and a mandatory requirement for insurance designed increase number of customers. Obama was not able to increase subsidies significantly without congress support and republicans blocked any attempt to do so. Many exemptions were granted to the mandatory requirement and finally republicans repealed it. The result was many insurance companies exited the market in areas of the country where competition was badly needed. Needless to say premiums went up making the insurance even less affordable.

If congress had increased subsidies and maintained a mandate that everyone have insurance, rates would have been much lower and the cost to government far less than Medicare for All.

It's ironic that republican work to destroy Obamacare, a healthcare system far less socialist that most healthcare plans in the world, has created a large demand for Medicare for All, a plan far more socialist and a far bigger hit on government revenue.

Obamacare was an epic failure that gutted our healthcare system and caused the huge spike in costs we see today.
But I hope Democrats run on it.

More likely they will run on Medicare for All. After republicans succeeded in blocking all attempts by democrats to increase subsidies and completion, you are going to to get Medicare for All, the next step toward socialized medicine.

I don't see how when there's no reasonable way to fund it. Most Americans know that once you introduce a social program, you're stuck with it, just like we are with Commie Care today.

I won't say that there is no support for it. Employers dealing with the cost of rising health insurance bills, individuals forced on the program because DumBama robbed them of their employer benefits, and even people that have always funded their own, are pretty sick of dealing with it, and just wish they didn't have to any longer.

Whether you tax the rich, tax the middle-class, it's going to have a major economic impact on this country, and unlike the past, not be reversible.

The Medicare for All program can easily be sold to the public because they believe once the law is passed everybody will be moved to the current Medicare system. That will not happen because the current Medicare program is supported by the Medicare Trust Funds built on contributions from past employees and being supplemented by contributions from current employers, employees, benefices and the government. Medicare for All is a universal coverage system fully funded by the government. That will never pass congress, republican or democrat but it will sound good to the public sick of paying outlandish premiums every year and getting practically no benefits.

I couldn't agree more. But the sheep will never understand it. Medicare is barely sustainable now. They use employee contributions via Medicare deductions, and FICA--the second highest tax out of your paycheck.

So they get into power, and even with an all Democrat government, tell certain members--those nearly at retirement age or in a very safe Democrat districts to vote against it. Then they can say they tried. But the truth is, they don't want Medicare for all either. They want Medicare for all to get into power. Then when it fails to pass, the MSM will help them out by publishing it was all the Republicans fault, even though they had no majority in the House or Senate. I mean......they are still blaming Republicans for the huge failure of Commie Care.

I think both sides have been responsible for the major failure in Obamacare, higher premiums. Democrats deluded themselves that the mandate and subsides would bring premiums down. They were wrong. Republicans are responsible for keeping premiums high by refusing to pass Democrat efforts to increase subsidies and instead repealing the mandate which just made the problem worse.

Congress, neither republican or democrat has any taste for another healthcare reform. Republicans want to do away with Obamacare and democrats want to fix it.

I agree, allowing people with serious health problems to switch to Medicare is a good idea, but a very expensive one. The cost of buying in would be huge because these are the people who are not on government healthcare programs and are responsible for most of cost of in private insurance. The government would have to provide the financial support.

 

[Flopper]

No one knew what improvements were needed until the plan was implemented. By then, republicans were fighting to repeal the plan and and blocking democrats attempts to fix it.

Obamacare was not really a failure. It just did not delivery everything promised. It eliminated prexisting conditions so insurance companies had to provide insurance regardless of serious illnesses. It eliminated junk insurance that allow insurance companies to sell plans that paid for low cost common medical care but failed to provide healthcare for really serious problems. It eliminated long waiting periods, up to two years of employment in some cases, and many other rather deceptive practices in the insurance industry. It required insurance companies to provide standardize benefits, making insurance easy to understand and compare. It added a lot of preventive care and provided the largest increase ever in mental health and substance abuse coverage, which was long overdue. And lastly, it increased the number insured.

It's primary failure was high cost to the insured. Insurance companies were promised subsides to keep prices low and a mandatory requirement for insurance designed increase number of customers. Obama was not able to increase subsidies significantly without congress support and republicans blocked any attempt to do so. Many exemptions were granted to the mandatory requirement and finally republicans repealed it. The result was many insurance companies exited the market in areas of the country where competition was badly needed. Needless to say premiums went up making the insurance even less affordable.

If congress had increased subsidies and maintained a mandate that everyone have insurance, rates would have been much lower and the cost to government far less than Medicare for All.

It's ironic that republican work to destroy Obamacare, a healthcare system far less socialist that most healthcare plans in the world, has created a large demand for Medicare for All, a plan far more socialist and a far bigger hit on government revenue.

Obamacare was an epic failure that gutted our healthcare system and caused the huge spike in costs we see today.
But I hope Democrats run on it.

More likely they will run on Medicare for All. After republicans succeeded in blocking all attempts by democrats to increase subsidies and completion, you are going to to get Medicare for All, the next step toward socialized medicine.

I don't see how when there's no reasonable way to fund it. Most Americans know that once you introduce a social program, you're stuck with it, just like we are with Commie Care today.

I won't say that there is no support for it. Employers dealing with the cost of rising health insurance bills, individuals forced on the program because DumBama robbed them of their employer benefits, and even people that have always funded their own, are pretty sick of dealing with it, and just wish they didn't have to any longer.

Whether you tax the rich, tax the middle-class, it's going to have a major economic impact on this country, and unlike the past, not be reversible.

The Medicare for All program can easily be sold to the public because they believe once the law is passed everybody will be moved to the current Medicare system. That will not happen because the current Medicare program is supported by the Medicare Trust Funds built on contributions from past employees and being supplemented by contributions from current employers, employees, benefices and the government. Medicare for All is a universal coverage system fully funded by the government. That will never pass congress, republican or democrat but it will sound good to the public sick of paying outlandish premiums every year and getting practically no benefits.

I couldn't agree more. But the sheep will never understand it. Medicare is barely sustainable now. They use employee contributions via Medicare deductions, and FICA--the second highest tax out of your paycheck.

So they get into power, and even with an all Democrat government, tell certain members--those nearly at retirement age or in a very safe Democrat districts to vote against it. Then they can say they tried. But the truth is, they don't want Medicare for all either. They want Medicare for all to get into power. Then when it fails to pass, the MSM will help them out by publishing it was all the Republicans fault, even though they had no majority in the House or Senate. I mean......they are still blaming Republicans for the huge failure of Commie Care.

I think both sides have been responsible for the major failure in Obamacare, higher premiums. Democrats deluded themselves that the mandate and subsides would bring premiums down. They were wrong. Republicans are responsible for keeping premiums high by refusing to pass Democrat efforts in increase subsidies and instead repealing the mandate which just ma the problem worse.

Congress, neither republican nor democrat has any taste for another healthcare reform. Republicans want to do away with Obamacare and democrats want to fix it.

 

[Flopper]

Obamacare was an epic failure that gutted our healthcare system and caused the huge spike in costs we see today.
But I hope Democrats run on it.

More likely they will run on Medicare for All. After republicans succeeded in blocking all attempts by democrats to increase subsidies and completion, you are going to to get Medicare for All, the next step toward socialized medicine.

I don't see how when there's no reasonable way to fund it. Most Americans know that once you introduce a social program, you're stuck with it, just like we are with Commie Care today.

I won't say that there is no support for it. Employers dealing with the cost of rising health insurance bills, individuals forced on the program because DumBama robbed them of their employer benefits, and even people that have always funded their own, are pretty sick of dealing with it, and just wish they didn't have to any longer.

Whether you tax the rich, tax the middle-class, it's going to have a major economic impact on this country, and unlike the past, not be reversible.

The Medicare for All program can easily be sold to the public because they believe once the law is passed everybody will be moved to the current Medicare system. That will not happen because the current Medicare program is supported by the Medicare Trust Funds built on contributions from past employees and being supplemented by contributions from current employers, employees, benefices and the government. Medicare for All is a universal coverage system fully funded by the government. That will never pass congress, republican or democrat but it will sound good to the public sick of paying outlandish premiums every year and getting practically no benefits.

I couldn't agree more. But the sheep will never understand it. Medicare is barely sustainable now. They use employee contributions via Medicare deductions, and FICA--the second highest tax out of your paycheck.

So they get into power, and even with an all Democrat government, tell certain members--those nearly at retirement age or in a very safe Democrat districts to vote against it. Then they can say they tried. But the truth is, they don't want Medicare for all either. They want Medicare for all to get into power. Then when it fails to pass, the MSM will help them out by publishing it was all the Republicans fault, even though they had no majority in the House or Senate. I mean......they are still blaming Republicans for the huge failure of Commie Care.

I think both sides have been responsible for the major failure in Obamacare, higher premiums. Democrats deluded themselves that the mandate and subsides would bring premiums down. They were wrong. Republicans are responsible for keeping premiums high by refusing to pass Democrat efforts in increase subsidies and instead repealing the mandate which just ma the problem worse.

Congress, neither republican nor democrat has any taste for another healthcare reform. Republicans want to do away with Obamacare and democrats want to fix it. The latter is more likely

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Obamacare was an epic failure that gutted our healthcare system and caused the huge spike in costs we see today.
But I hope Democrats run on it.

More likely they will run on Medicare for All. After republicans succeeded in blocking all attempts by democrats to increase subsidies and completion, you are going to to get Medicare for All, the next step toward socialized medicine.

I don't see how when there's no reasonable way to fund it. Most Americans know that once you introduce a social program, you're stuck with it, just like we are with Commie Care today.

I won't say that there is no support for it. Employers dealing with the cost of rising health insurance bills, individuals forced on the program because DumBama robbed them of their employer benefits, and even people that have always funded their own, are pretty sick of dealing with it, and just wish they didn't have to any longer.

Whether you tax the rich, tax the middle-class, it's going to have a major economic impact on this country, and unlike the past, not be reversible.

The Medicare for All program can easily be sold to the public because they believe once the law is passed everybody will be moved to the current Medicare system. That will not happen because the current Medicare program is supported by the Medicare Trust Funds built on contributions from past employees and being supplemented by contributions from current employers, employees, benefices and the government. Medicare for All is a universal coverage system fully funded by the government. That will never pass congress, republican or democrat but it will sound good to the public sick of paying outlandish premiums every year and getting practically no benefits.

I couldn't agree more. But the sheep will never understand it. Medicare is barely sustainable now. They use employee contributions via Medicare deductions, and FICA--the second highest tax out of your paycheck.

So they get into power, and even with an all Democrat government, tell certain members--those nearly at retirement age or in a very safe Democrat districts to vote against it. Then they can say they tried. But the truth is, they don't want Medicare for all either. They want Medicare for all to get into power. Then when it fails to pass, the MSM will help them out by publishing it was all the Republicans fault, even though they had no majority in the House or Senate. I mean......they are still blaming Republicans for the huge failure of Commie Care.

I think both sides have been responsible for the major failure in Obamacare, higher premiums. Democrats deluded themselves that the mandate and subsides would bring premiums down. They were wrong. Republicans are responsible for keeping premiums high by refusing to pass Democrat efforts in increase subsidies and instead repealing the mandate which just ma the problem worse.

Congress, neither republican nor democrat has any taste for another healthcare reform. Republicans want to do away with Obamacare and democrats want to fix it.

Republicans had nothing to do with it. Every single one voted against it. What Democrats are doing is blame shifting. If it was a success, they'd never stop talking about how great it was and Republicans wanted nothing to do with it. But now that we see it was a failure, they are trying to pin the blame on Republicans.

Getting rid of the mandate was one of the best things Republicans ever did. Nobody who lives in a free country should be forced to buy anything the government demands. The Democrats are always talking about how they are for the poor and middle-class, but if you don't buy their healthcare plan, they keep your income tax refund, and most of the people that can't afford it need that money the most.

 

[dblack]

Republicans are responsible for keeping premiums high by refusing to pass Democrat efforts to increase subsidies and instead repealing the mandate which just made the problem worse.

Not generally a fan of Republicans, but good for them. The mandate was a gross overreach of government and subsidies don't bring down premiums. They just funnel more money to the insurance industry.

 

[Flopper]

More likely they will run on Medicare for All. After republicans succeeded in blocking all attempts by democrats to increase subsidies and completion, you are going to to get Medicare for All, the next step toward socialized medicine.

I don't see how when there's no reasonable way to fund it. Most Americans know that once you introduce a social program, you're stuck with it, just like we are with Commie Care today.

I won't say that there is no support for it. Employers dealing with the cost of rising health insurance bills, individuals forced on the program because DumBama robbed them of their employer benefits, and even people that have always funded their own, are pretty sick of dealing with it, and just wish they didn't have to any longer.

Whether you tax the rich, tax the middle-class, it's going to have a major economic impact on this country, and unlike the past, not be reversible.

The Medicare for All program can easily be sold to the public because they believe once the law is passed everybody will be moved to the current Medicare system. That will not happen because the current Medicare program is supported by the Medicare Trust Funds built on contributions from past employees and being supplemented by contributions from current employers, employees, benefices and the government. Medicare for All is a universal coverage system fully funded by the government. That will never pass congress, republican or democrat but it will sound good to the public sick of paying outlandish premiums every year and getting practically no benefits.

I couldn't agree more. But the sheep will never understand it. Medicare is barely sustainable now. They use employee contributions via Medicare deductions, and FICA--the second highest tax out of your paycheck.

So they get into power, and even with an all Democrat government, tell certain members--those nearly at retirement age or in a very safe Democrat districts to vote against it. Then they can say they tried. But the truth is, they don't want Medicare for all either. They want Medicare for all to get into power. Then when it fails to pass, the MSM will help them out by publishing it was all the Republicans fault, even though they had no majority in the House or Senate. I mean......they are still blaming Republicans for the huge failure of Commie Care.

I think both sides have been responsible for the major failure in Obamacare, higher premiums. Democrats deluded themselves that the mandate and subsides would bring premiums down. They were wrong. Republicans are responsible for keeping premiums high by refusing to pass Democrat efforts in increase subsidies and instead repealing the mandate which just ma the problem worse.

Congress, neither republican nor democrat has any taste for another healthcare reform. Republicans want to do away with Obamacare and democrats want to fix it.

Republicans had nothing to do with it. Every single one voted against it. What Democrats are doing is blame shifting. If it was a success, they'd never stop talking about how great it was and Republicans wanted nothing to do with it. But now that we see it was a failure, they are trying to pin the blame on Republicans.

Getting rid of the mandate was one of the best things Republicans ever did. Nobody who lives in a free country should be forced to buy anything the government demands. The Democrats are always talking about how they are for the poor and middle-class, but if you don't buy their healthcare plan, they keep your income tax refund, and most of the people that can't afford it need that money the most.

More likely they will run on Medicare for All. After republicans succeeded in blocking all attempts by democrats to increase subsidies and completion, you are going to to get Medicare for All, the next step toward socialized medicine.

I don't see how when there's no reasonable way to fund it. Most Americans know that once you introduce a social program, you're stuck with it, just like we are with Commie Care today.

I won't say that there is no support for it. Employers dealing with the cost of rising health insurance bills, individuals forced on the program because DumBama robbed them of their employer benefits, and even people that have always funded their own, are pretty sick of dealing with it, and just wish they didn't have to any longer.

Whether you tax the rich, tax the middle-class, it's going to have a major economic impact on this country, and unlike the past, not be reversible.

The Medicare for All program can easily be sold to the public because they believe once the law is passed everybody will be moved to the current Medicare system. That will not happen because the current Medicare program is supported by the Medicare Trust Funds built on contributions from past employees and being supplemented by contributions from current employers, employees, benefices and the government. Medicare for All is a universal coverage system fully funded by the government. That will never pass congress, republican or democrat but it will sound good to the public sick of paying outlandish premiums every year and getting practically no benefits.

I couldn't agree more. But the sheep will never understand it. Medicare is barely sustainable now. They use employee contributions via Medicare deductions, and FICA--the second highest tax out of your paycheck.

So they get into power, and even with an all Democrat government, tell certain members--those nearly at retirement age or in a very safe Democrat districts to vote against it. Then they can say they tried. But the truth is, they don't want Medicare for all either. They want Medicare for all to get into power. Then when it fails to pass, the MSM will help them out by publishing it was all the Republicans fault, even though they had no majority in the House or Senate. I mean......they are still blaming Republicans for the huge failure of Commie Care.

I think both sides have been responsible for the major failure in Obamacare, higher premiums. Democrats deluded themselves that the mandate and subsides would bring premiums down. They were wrong. Republicans are responsible for keeping premiums high by refusing to pass Democrat efforts in increase subsidies and instead repealing the mandate which just ma the problem worse.

Congress, neither republican nor democrat has any taste for another healthcare reform. Republicans want to do away with Obamacare and democrats want to fix it.

Republicans had nothing to do with it. Every single one voted against it. What Democrats are doing is blame shifting. If it was a success, they'd never stop talking about how great it was and Republicans wanted nothing to do with it. But now that we see it was a failure, they are trying to pin the blame on Republicans.

Getting rid of the mandate was one of the best things Republicans ever did. Nobody who lives in a free country should be forced to buy anything the government demands. The Democrats are always talking about how they are for the poor and middle-class, but if you don't buy their healthcare plan, they keep your income tax refund, and most of the people that can't afford it need that money the most.

I find it very amusing that a republican congress who had sworn to repeal Obamacare could not do it, even when they controlled both houses and the oval office. Of course, everyone knows the truth, they had nothing to offer to replace it. And rather than repealing Obamacare and being saddled with a crash in the healthcare sector, they repealed the mandate hoping that would satisfy their supporters. However, what they really did is join democrats in pushing healthcare premiums higher convincing more Americans that Medicare for All would be a better plan than Obamacare or the nothing plan from Republicans.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I don't see how when there's no reasonable way to fund it. Most Americans know that once you introduce a social program, you're stuck with it, just like we are with Commie Care today.

I won't say that there is no support for it. Employers dealing with the cost of rising health insurance bills, individuals forced on the program because DumBama robbed them of their employer benefits, and even people that have always funded their own, are pretty sick of dealing with it, and just wish they didn't have to any longer.

Whether you tax the rich, tax the middle-class, it's going to have a major economic impact on this country, and unlike the past, not be reversible.

The Medicare for All program can easily be sold to the public because they believe once the law is passed everybody will be moved to the current Medicare system. That will not happen because the current Medicare program is supported by the Medicare Trust Funds built on contributions from past employees and being supplemented by contributions from current employers, employees, benefices and the government. Medicare for All is a universal coverage system fully funded by the government. That will never pass congress, republican or democrat but it will sound good to the public sick of paying outlandish premiums every year and getting practically no benefits.

I couldn't agree more. But the sheep will never understand it. Medicare is barely sustainable now. They use employee contributions via Medicare deductions, and FICA--the second highest tax out of your paycheck.

So they get into power, and even with an all Democrat government, tell certain members--those nearly at retirement age or in a very safe Democrat districts to vote against it. Then they can say they tried. But the truth is, they don't want Medicare for all either. They want Medicare for all to get into power. Then when it fails to pass, the MSM will help them out by publishing it was all the Republicans fault, even though they had no majority in the House or Senate. I mean......they are still blaming Republicans for the huge failure of Commie Care.

I think both sides have been responsible for the major failure in Obamacare, higher premiums. Democrats deluded themselves that the mandate and subsides would bring premiums down. They were wrong. Republicans are responsible for keeping premiums high by refusing to pass Democrat efforts in increase subsidies and instead repealing the mandate which just ma the problem worse.

Congress, neither republican nor democrat has any taste for another healthcare reform. Republicans want to do away with Obamacare and democrats want to fix it.

Republicans had nothing to do with it. Every single one voted against it. What Democrats are doing is blame shifting. If it was a success, they'd never stop talking about how great it was and Republicans wanted nothing to do with it. But now that we see it was a failure, they are trying to pin the blame on Republicans.

Getting rid of the mandate was one of the best things Republicans ever did. Nobody who lives in a free country should be forced to buy anything the government demands. The Democrats are always talking about how they are for the poor and middle-class, but if you don't buy their healthcare plan, they keep your income tax refund, and most of the people that can't afford it need that money the most.

I don't see how when there's no reasonable way to fund it. Most Americans know that once you introduce a social program, you're stuck with it, just like we are with Commie Care today.

I won't say that there is no support for it. Employers dealing with the cost of rising health insurance bills, individuals forced on the program because DumBama robbed them of their employer benefits, and even people that have always funded their own, are pretty sick of dealing with it, and just wish they didn't have to any longer.

Whether you tax the rich, tax the middle-class, it's going to have a major economic impact on this country, and unlike the past, not be reversible.

The Medicare for All program can easily be sold to the public because they believe once the law is passed everybody will be moved to the current Medicare system. That will not happen because the current Medicare program is supported by the Medicare Trust Funds built on contributions from past employees and being supplemented by contributions from current employers, employees, benefices and the government. Medicare for All is a universal coverage system fully funded by the government. That will never pass congress, republican or democrat but it will sound good to the public sick of paying outlandish premiums every year and getting practically no benefits.

I couldn't agree more. But the sheep will never understand it. Medicare is barely sustainable now. They use employee contributions via Medicare deductions, and FICA--the second highest tax out of your paycheck.

So they get into power, and even with an all Democrat government, tell certain members--those nearly at retirement age or in a very safe Democrat districts to vote against it. Then they can say they tried. But the truth is, they don't want Medicare for all either. They want Medicare for all to get into power. Then when it fails to pass, the MSM will help them out by publishing it was all the Republicans fault, even though they had no majority in the House or Senate. I mean......they are still blaming Republicans for the huge failure of Commie Care.

I think both sides have been responsible for the major failure in Obamacare, higher premiums. Democrats deluded themselves that the mandate and subsides would bring premiums down. They were wrong. Republicans are responsible for keeping premiums high by refusing to pass Democrat efforts in increase subsidies and instead repealing the mandate which just ma the problem worse.

Congress, neither republican nor democrat has any taste for another healthcare reform. Republicans want to do away with Obamacare and democrats want to fix it.

Republicans had nothing to do with it. Every single one voted against it. What Democrats are doing is blame shifting. If it was a success, they'd never stop talking about how great it was and Republicans wanted nothing to do with it. But now that we see it was a failure, they are trying to pin the blame on Republicans.

Getting rid of the mandate was one of the best things Republicans ever did. Nobody who lives in a free country should be forced to buy anything the government demands. The Democrats are always talking about how they are for the poor and middle-class, but if you don't buy their healthcare plan, they keep your income tax refund, and most of the people that can't afford it need that money the most.

I find it very amusing that a republican congress who had sworn to repeal Obamacare could not do it, even when they controlled both houses and the oval office. Of course, everyone knows the truth, they had nothing to offer to replace it. And rather than repealing Obamacare and being saddled with a crash in the healthcare sector, they repealed the mandate hoping that would satisfy their supporters. However, what they really did is join democrats in pushing healthcare premiums higher convincing more Americans that Medicare for All would be a better plan than Obamacare or the nothing plan from Republicans.

I find it very amusing that a republican congress who had sworn to repeal Obamacare could not do it, even when they controlled both houses and the oval office.

Well, John McCain was a twat.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I don't see how when there's no reasonable way to fund it. Most Americans know that once you introduce a social program, you're stuck with it, just like we are with Commie Care today.

I won't say that there is no support for it. Employers dealing with the cost of rising health insurance bills, individuals forced on the program because DumBama robbed them of their employer benefits, and even people that have always funded their own, are pretty sick of dealing with it, and just wish they didn't have to any longer.

Whether you tax the rich, tax the middle-class, it's going to have a major economic impact on this country, and unlike the past, not be reversible.

The Medicare for All program can easily be sold to the public because they believe once the law is passed everybody will be moved to the current Medicare system. That will not happen because the current Medicare program is supported by the Medicare Trust Funds built on contributions from past employees and being supplemented by contributions from current employers, employees, benefices and the government. Medicare for All is a universal coverage system fully funded by the government. That will never pass congress, republican or democrat but it will sound good to the public sick of paying outlandish premiums every year and getting practically no benefits.

I couldn't agree more. But the sheep will never understand it. Medicare is barely sustainable now. They use employee contributions via Medicare deductions, and FICA--the second highest tax out of your paycheck.

So they get into power, and even with an all Democrat government, tell certain members--those nearly at retirement age or in a very safe Democrat districts to vote against it. Then they can say they tried. But the truth is, they don't want Medicare for all either. They want Medicare for all to get into power. Then when it fails to pass, the MSM will help them out by publishing it was all the Republicans fault, even though they had no majority in the House or Senate. I mean......they are still blaming Republicans for the huge failure of Commie Care.

I think both sides have been responsible for the major failure in Obamacare, higher premiums. Democrats deluded themselves that the mandate and subsides would bring premiums down. They were wrong. Republicans are responsible for keeping premiums high by refusing to pass Democrat efforts in increase subsidies and instead repealing the mandate which just ma the problem worse.

Congress, neither republican nor democrat has any taste for another healthcare reform. Republicans want to do away with Obamacare and democrats want to fix it.

Republicans had nothing to do with it. Every single one voted against it. What Democrats are doing is blame shifting. If it was a success, they'd never stop talking about how great it was and Republicans wanted nothing to do with it. But now that we see it was a failure, they are trying to pin the blame on Republicans.

Getting rid of the mandate was one of the best things Republicans ever did. Nobody who lives in a free country should be forced to buy anything the government demands. The Democrats are always talking about how they are for the poor and middle-class, but if you don't buy their healthcare plan, they keep your income tax refund, and most of the people that can't afford it need that money the most.

I don't see how when there's no reasonable way to fund it. Most Americans know that once you introduce a social program, you're stuck with it, just like we are with Commie Care today.

I won't say that there is no support for it. Employers dealing with the cost of rising health insurance bills, individuals forced on the program because DumBama robbed them of their employer benefits, and even people that have always funded their own, are pretty sick of dealing with it, and just wish they didn't have to any longer.

Whether you tax the rich, tax the middle-class, it's going to have a major economic impact on this country, and unlike the past, not be reversible.

The Medicare for All program can easily be sold to the public because they believe once the law is passed everybody will be moved to the current Medicare system. That will not happen because the current Medicare program is supported by the Medicare Trust Funds built on contributions from past employees and being supplemented by contributions from current employers, employees, benefices and the government. Medicare for All is a universal coverage system fully funded by the government. That will never pass congress, republican or democrat but it will sound good to the public sick of paying outlandish premiums every year and getting practically no benefits.

I couldn't agree more. But the sheep will never understand it. Medicare is barely sustainable now. They use employee contributions via Medicare deductions, and FICA--the second highest tax out of your paycheck.

So they get into power, and even with an all Democrat government, tell certain members--those nearly at retirement age or in a very safe Democrat districts to vote against it. Then they can say they tried. But the truth is, they don't want Medicare for all either. They want Medicare for all to get into power. Then when it fails to pass, the MSM will help them out by publishing it was all the Republicans fault, even though they had no majority in the House or Senate. I mean......they are still blaming Republicans for the huge failure of Commie Care.

I think both sides have been responsible for the major failure in Obamacare, higher premiums. Democrats deluded themselves that the mandate and subsides would bring premiums down. They were wrong. Republicans are responsible for keeping premiums high by refusing to pass Democrat efforts in increase subsidies and instead repealing the mandate which just ma the problem worse.

Congress, neither republican nor democrat has any taste for another healthcare reform. Republicans want to do away with Obamacare and democrats want to fix it.

Republicans had nothing to do with it. Every single one voted against it. What Democrats are doing is blame shifting. If it was a success, they'd never stop talking about how great it was and Republicans wanted nothing to do with it. But now that we see it was a failure, they are trying to pin the blame on Republicans.

Getting rid of the mandate was one of the best things Republicans ever did. Nobody who lives in a free country should be forced to buy anything the government demands. The Democrats are always talking about how they are for the poor and middle-class, but if you don't buy their healthcare plan, they keep your income tax refund, and most of the people that can't afford it need that money the most.

I find it very amusing that a republican congress who had sworn to repeal Obamacare could not do it, even when they controlled both houses and the oval office. Of course, everyone knows the truth, they had nothing to offer to replace it. And rather than repealing Obamacare and being saddled with a crash in the healthcare sector, they repealed the mandate hoping that would satisfy their supporters. However, what they really did is join democrats in pushing healthcare premiums higher convincing more Americans that Medicare for All would be a better plan than Obamacare or the nothing plan from Republicans.

Which only goes to show you how difficult it is to provide decent care for everybody. Our healthcare system is loaded with piles of paperwork from the government in order to make it work. It's not that we need ten thousand regulations, but we have to give bureaucrats something to do.

If you have a weak, unstable building, you don't add another floor to it. It has to be ripped down to the footer and rebuilt the proper way. That was the idea of getting rid of Commie Care. It didn't work for most people. The lie about the ACA is in the very first letter--Affordable.

 

[Flopper]

The Medicare for All program can easily be sold to the public because they believe once the law is passed everybody will be moved to the current Medicare system. That will not happen because the current Medicare program is supported by the Medicare Trust Funds built on contributions from past employees and being supplemented by contributions from current employers, employees, benefices and the government. Medicare for All is a universal coverage system fully funded by the government. That will never pass congress, republican or democrat but it will sound good to the public sick of paying outlandish premiums every year and getting practically no benefits.

I couldn't agree more. But the sheep will never understand it. Medicare is barely sustainable now. They use employee contributions via Medicare deductions, and FICA--the second highest tax out of your paycheck.

So they get into power, and even with an all Democrat government, tell certain members--those nearly at retirement age or in a very safe Democrat districts to vote against it. Then they can say they tried. But the truth is, they don't want Medicare for all either. They want Medicare for all to get into power. Then when it fails to pass, the MSM will help them out by publishing it was all the Republicans fault, even though they had no majority in the House or Senate. I mean......they are still blaming Republicans for the huge failure of Commie Care.

I think both sides have been responsible for the major failure in Obamacare, higher premiums. Democrats deluded themselves that the mandate and subsides would bring premiums down. They were wrong. Republicans are responsible for keeping premiums high by refusing to pass Democrat efforts in increase subsidies and instead repealing the mandate which just ma the problem worse.

Congress, neither republican nor democrat has any taste for another healthcare reform. Republicans want to do away with Obamacare and democrats want to fix it.

Republicans had nothing to do with it. Every single one voted against it. What Democrats are doing is blame shifting. If it was a success, they'd never stop talking about how great it was and Republicans wanted nothing to do with it. But now that we see it was a failure, they are trying to pin the blame on Republicans.

Getting rid of the mandate was one of the best things Republicans ever did. Nobody who lives in a free country should be forced to buy anything the government demands. The Democrats are always talking about how they are for the poor and middle-class, but if you don't buy their healthcare plan, they keep your income tax refund, and most of the people that can't afford it need that money the most.

The Medicare for All program can easily be sold to the public because they believe once the law is passed everybody will be moved to the current Medicare system. That will not happen because the current Medicare program is supported by the Medicare Trust Funds built on contributions from past employees and being supplemented by contributions from current employers, employees, benefices and the government. Medicare for All is a universal coverage system fully funded by the government. That will never pass congress, republican or democrat but it will sound good to the public sick of paying outlandish premiums every year and getting practically no benefits.

I couldn't agree more. But the sheep will never understand it. Medicare is barely sustainable now. They use employee contributions via Medicare deductions, and FICA--the second highest tax out of your paycheck.

So they get into power, and even with an all Democrat government, tell certain members--those nearly at retirement age or in a very safe Democrat districts to vote against it. Then they can say they tried. But the truth is, they don't want Medicare for all either. They want Medicare for all to get into power. Then when it fails to pass, the MSM will help them out by publishing it was all the Republicans fault, even though they had no majority in the House or Senate. I mean......they are still blaming Republicans for the huge failure of Commie Care.

I think both sides have been responsible for the major failure in Obamacare, higher premiums. Democrats deluded themselves that the mandate and subsides would bring premiums down. They were wrong. Republicans are responsible for keeping premiums high by refusing to pass Democrat efforts in increase subsidies and instead repealing the mandate which just ma the problem worse.

Congress, neither republican nor democrat has any taste for another healthcare reform. Republicans want to do away with Obamacare and democrats want to fix it.

Republicans had nothing to do with it. Every single one voted against it. What Democrats are doing is blame shifting. If it was a success, they'd never stop talking about how great it was and Republicans wanted nothing to do with it. But now that we see it was a failure, they are trying to pin the blame on Republicans.

Getting rid of the mandate was one of the best things Republicans ever did. Nobody who lives in a free country should be forced to buy anything the government demands. The Democrats are always talking about how they are for the poor and middle-class, but if you don't buy their healthcare plan, they keep your income tax refund, and most of the people that can't afford it need that money the most.

I find it very amusing that a republican congress who had sworn to repeal Obamacare could not do it, even when they controlled both houses and the oval office. Of course, everyone knows the truth, they had nothing to offer to replace it. And rather than repealing Obamacare and being saddled with a crash in the healthcare sector, they repealed the mandate hoping that would satisfy their supporters. However, what they really did is join democrats in pushing healthcare premiums higher convincing more Americans that Medicare for All would be a better plan than Obamacare or the nothing plan from Republicans.

Which only goes to show you how difficult it is to provide decent care for everybody. Our healthcare system is loaded with piles of paperwork from the government in order to make it work. It's not that we need ten thousand regulations, but we have to give bureaucrats something to do.

If you have a weak, unstable building, you don't add another floor to it. It has to be ripped down to the footer and rebuilt the proper way. That was the idea of getting rid of Commie Care. It didn't work for most people. The lie about the ACA is in the very first letter--Affordable.

It's not difficult to provide decent healthcare for all if we understand that health is central to human happiness and well-being. Economic productivity as well as all human accomplishments is dependent on the health of the people. Your health, the health of your family, your neighbors, and people you don't know effects you. The average American spends more money on entertainment and eating at restaurants than they spend on healthcare.

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