Berkelely group, preliminary results

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    Looks like Muller has confirmed Hansen, Mann, and everybody else.

    April 4, 2011
    A team of UC Berkeley physicists and statisticians that set out to challenge the scientific consensus on global warming is finding that its data-crunching effort is producing results nearly identical to those underlying the prevailing view.

    hipinion.com • View topic - "scientists were right about global warming" say critics

    The Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature project was launched by physics professor Richard Muller, a longtime critic of government-led climate studies, to address what he called "the legitimate concerns" of skeptics who believe that global warming is exaggerated.

    But Muller unexpectedly told a congressional hearing last week that the work of the three principal groups that have analyzed the temperature trends underlying climate science is "excellent.... We see a global warming trend that is very similar to that previously reported by the other groups."

    The hearing was called by GOP leaders of the House Science & Technology committee, who have expressed doubts about the integrity of climate science. It was one of several inquiries in recent weeks as the Environmental Protection Agency's efforts to curb planet-heating emissions from industrial plants and motor vehicles have come under strenuous attack in Congress.

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    Over the years, Muller has praised Watts' efforts to show that weather station data in official studies are untrustworthy because of the urban heat island effect, which boosts temperature readings in areas that have been encroached on by cities and suburbs.

    But leading climatologists said the previous studies accounted for the effect, and the Berkeley analysis is confirming that, Muller acknowledged. "Did such poor station quality exaggerate the estimates of global warming?" he asked in his written testimony. "We've studied this issue, and our preliminary answer is no."
     
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    Big surprise huh? :lmao:
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7udNMqRmqV8&feature=related]YouTube - TEDxPentagon - Rear Admiral David Titley, USN - Climate Change and National Security[/ame]

    Every conservative in America needs to see this video. A conservative admiral lays it out for everyone to see. Unfortunately, there is a massive shift to the right, especially the religious right who are science deniers, going on right now in the US. Over the last 20 years the craziest people have hijacked the conservative party and we are in serious trouble
     
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    Ask Ian.
     
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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2yvky_xmwk&feature=related]YouTube - What does climate change mean for the US Navy?[/ame]

    AGU and the US Navy
     
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    Thats right.......hijacked by less then 3% of the population!!! Of course...........:funnyface::funnyface::coffee:

    Common sense always prevails when people finally take a close look at lefty public policy efforts, brilliantly designed to flog the middle class with taxes thus ultimately increasing the rolls of the lower class who then need government subsistence to survive. Its fcukking brilliant.

    Look whats happening now!!!!!!!!!:eek: Erskine Bowles, a liberal and who is on the deficit commission stated that the debt crisis is a ticking timb bomb that will suddenly collapse our whole economy overnight. Lefty guys like Old Rocks dont even acknowledge there is a problem..........says the debt crisis is fake, manufactured by "the right". They want alternative energy policies that are not affordable by any reasonable standard. Too..........to pursue them would cost the coal industry approximately 2.3 million jobs = fact. Politically over the next several years if not beyond, such "green" measures will be IMPOSSIBLE!!! ( Oh.....not to mention the House will continue to be in the hands of the GOP for a minimum of the next 9 years.....due to state redistricting happening right now)


    Indeed..............for the left, what we have here is.................



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    Ultimately.........the Berkely research, no matter what it finds, will only heat up temperature glacier melt/sea ice debate on the internet. Nothing else. We are a couple of decades......... at least......... away from alternative energy technology that is sensible, efficient and affordable. And even then, these efforts will be stalled for decades more UNLESS the government gets the fcukk out of the way = not likely.
     
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    Rocks s0n........debating this shit with you. Trying to think of a good analogy here..........

    Whats it like?

    Its like..........its like that new Geico commercial where the tough guy Ninja come swooping in with his gay sword, does all his pre-fight tricks and then faces off against his opponent................who proceeds to take a small laser cannon out of a box, aims it at the ninja and blows him into the next world!!! For guys like Ian, Westwall, Polar, Wire, Matthew and me, when we happen upon this forum, were NOT the ninja guy!!!!



    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcZd-ql7t1I"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcZd-ql7t1I[/ame]
     
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    One should look at Muller's actual testimony, not what the LA Times interprets that testimony to be. So, in Muller's own words from the start
    [Emphasis added]

    From Muller's own testimony, he makes a conclusion based on biased data.

    But, leave it to Congress, an LA Times reporter, and those playing at science to miss that.
     
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