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    do muslims believe in gods son jesus christ? and if not how do they expect to get to heaven.
     
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    They're going to kill everyone who stands in their way.
     
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    I think they view Jesus as a prophet in a line of prophets... but not the son of god.

    And if heaven is occupied by some of you asshole christians and zealot asshole religious nuts I would rather be in hell.
     
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    How about the Jews? They don't believe in Jesus, are they going to hell?


    Or the Hindus, or the Buddhists, or the Shintos, or the Aztecs, or all the people who came before the year 0 A.D. Are they all going to hell?
     
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    The fast answer is "yes", in the sense that they are damned. That's no so terrible, really, since damnation only means a person cannot progress further. In other words, if Christianity has it right, they will be resurrected and end up in a place where they are happy but simply cannot go any farther. This is true for many Christians as well, by the way.

    But the alternative is worth working for. Those who make and keep sacred covenants such as baptism can live forever with their families and with God and continue to make progress.
     
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    Want to share where that idea came from? That's a bit of a new take on it to me, and I've heard a LOT of opinions on exactly what Christianity says will really occur to the 'unsaved'.
     
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    theres only one way in john 3:16-17 for god so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. for god sent not his son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
     
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    Sure. It came from scripture. There are many to choose from, but John 3:5 is a good one for the first part of what I said and 1 Corinthians 15:40-41 is a good one for the second part.
     
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    After re-reading all of John 3 and Corinthians 15 I see nothing there that supports your particular claim about the specific fate of the unsaved. Could you elaborate what part of either one specifies that all those not saved are placed in some kind of neutral holding pattern forever living out perfectly happy lives?
     
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    try revelation 20:15 and whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
     

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