Back to the stone age! Machine counting ballots on the chopping block.

[rightwinger]

Then you count them just like cattle in the pasture or pens, you keep running them by until everyone agrees on the county.

That is the problem
Machine counts are repeatable while human counts continually vary due to human failings

How long can you stare at dots on a page?

 

[occupied]

That's because you Nazis will continue to cheat no matter what changes are made.

If we want free and fair elections, switch to block chain, but you Nazis won't even allow ID - you sure won't go for digital security - because you can't cheat.

Are the democrats still so insanely good at cheating you can't say exactly how they do it?

 

[Turtlesoup]

That is the problem
Machine counts are repeatable while human counts continually vary due to human failings

How long can you stare at dots on a page?

Actually voting machine recounts---are notoriously ever changing as well.

 

[Mac-7]

Personally, I'm all for this. No, not that I think it's a good idea. But if a few states out there want to go back to a slow and costly counting of all the ballots by hand, then let them make fools of themselves. It's going to be all the more hilarious if it really does become a big time deep red state phenomenon where all the morons who were whining about the last election taking so long to determine have to spend weeks watching their state continue counting ballots after final results have been projected.

The silly thing about it is that usually, the ballots are all counted by hand anyway. Most local election boards spend the time between elections doing a full hand audit of the last election. Having the machines simply allows everything to be done faster and less expensively.

Trump backers push election change that would make counting slower, costlier and less accurate

Its a little more than simply counting the ballots

a simple optical reader cannot be hacked

but a complicated ballot processor that can be hacked is what democrats really want

 

[Uncensored2008]

Are the democrats still so insanely good at cheating you can't say exactly how they do it?

Good?

You're clowns.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Are the democrats still so insanely good at cheating you can't say exactly how they do it?

Keep on trying to convince us that you just haven't gotten around to looking at all of that evidence yet, you fucking halfwit.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Are the democrats still so insanely good at cheating you can't say exactly how they do it?

No---they multi-vote, they dead vote, they use illegals mostly underage teens btw to vote, they register in one dem activists house several people who do not live in the area, they raid nursing home databases or mail ballots to vote.

I've personally seen the county to county multivote scheme....I lived in SC at the time and several of Obama's supporters hit several counties including Richland and Lexington to vote in both counties and likely several others.

 

[westwall]

The machines are fine, it's the crooks running them.

Hand counting will do nothing to keep democrats from engaging in massive fraud.

No, the machines are not fine. They all have algorithms built into them. THAT, is prima facie evidence of fraud.

No simple tabulation machine should ever have an algorithm built in.

Ever.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

The more complex the technology the more room for fraud.

I'm generally inclined to agree. And since we're on the same page, please explain to me what the fuck is this bullshit....

Paper ballots only, with biometric verification and a recipt given to every voter to verify that their votes are properly recorded and tallied along with "Real ID" compliant voter ID.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

Punching an actual Ballot----means fingerprints, and a receipt for the one voting.

That's just great. The government needs to start collecting biometric data on all people, to keep in their back pocket at all times. That's how we achieve small government.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

No, the machines are not fine. They all have algorithms built into them. THAT, is prima facie evidence of fraud.

No simple tabulation machine should ever have an algorithm built in.

Ever.

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

 

[occupied]

Good?

You're clowns.

You think democrats pulled off an undetectable election rigging plot across several states involving hundreds of republican elections officials that no republican is smart enough to figure out. That's some pretty impressive stuff to baffle every single republican election rigging expert.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I have confidence in video evidence.

What good is video if we do nothing about it?

Oberfuhrer Garland spent 9 months and millions in taxpayer money to suppress this video taken by the US Marshalls.



Once forced to release it, what was the result? The fool in the video was already arrested by the Marshalls, no one else has been indicted.

The gaslight media refused to report, they serve the Reich. Twitter and YouTube censored it to protect the Reich.

What good is video when we have no INTEGRITY, no legitimate press, utterly corrupt law enforcement?

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

You think democrats pulled off an undetectable election rigging plot across several states involving hundreds of republican elections officials that no republican is smart enough to figure out. That's some pretty impressive stuff to baffle every single republican election rigging expert.

"LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA"

 

[Cellblock2429]

Personally, I'm all for this. No, not that I think it's a good idea. But if a few states out there want to go back to a slow and costly counting of all the ballots by hand, then let them make fools of themselves. It's going to be all the more hilarious if it really does become a big time deep red state phenomenon where all the morons who were whining about the last election taking so long to determine have to spend weeks watching their state continue counting ballots after final results have been projected.

The silly thing about it is that usually, the ballots are all counted by hand anyway. Most local election boards spend the time between elections doing a full hand audit of the last election. Having the machines simply allows everything to be done faster and less expensively.

Trump backers push election change that would make counting slower, costlier and less accurate

/----/ OH BOO HOO HOO. Cry me a river.

 

[westwall]

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

No, Stormy, it is you who don't seem to understand. Algorithms CHANGE things.

That's what they do.

So why would you need to change a tabulation?

DURRRRRR

 

[Harpy Eagle]

That's just great. The government needs to start collecting biometric data on all people, to keep in their back pocket at all times. That's how we achieve small government.

Sure, nothing screams small government than the government having the biometric data on 200 million people

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Personally, I'm all for this. No, not that I think it's a good idea. But if a few states out there want to go back to a slow and costly counting of all the ballots by hand, then let them make fools of themselves. It's going to be all the more hilarious if it really does become a big time deep red state phenomenon where all the morons who were whining about the last election taking so long to determine have to spend weeks watching their state continue counting ballots after final results have been projected.

The silly thing about it is that usually, the ballots are all counted by hand anyway. Most local election boards spend the time between elections doing a full hand audit of the last election. Having the machines simply allows everything to be done faster and less expensively.

Trump backers push election change that would make counting slower, costlier and less accurate

Cheaters need machines they can manipulate. Democrats can't win unless they cheat.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

No, Stormy, it is you who don't seem to understand. Algorithms CHANGE things.

That's what they do.

Welp, you proved my point. That word does not mean what you think it means.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You think democrats pulled off an undetectable election rigging plot across several states involving hundreds of republican elections officials that no republican is smart enough to figure out. That's some pretty impressive stuff to baffle every single republican election rigging expert.

Undetectable?

It's in our fucking face.

When confirmed video of ballot box stuffing is presented, how do you react? Do you smile that Reich troops are ensuring the rule by the party?

We don't lack proof, we're buried in proof. We have you Nazis and your lying fuck press who support election fraud.

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FACT 1: OpenDataPA allowed anyone to download the Mail Ballot Request CSV database showing the life cycle of every mail-in/absentee ballot, which PA periodically updates.


FACT 2: There have been 4 known versions up this database so far. A Nov 6th Version, Nov 10th Version, Nov 16th Version, and Dec 16th Version. The changes between versions were never disclosed to the public.

Anomalies and irregularities have been a found in all versions. The Nov 10th Version showed 23,305 ballots having a “Returned” date before their actual “Mailed” date. The Nov 16th Version change most of the ballots, leaving only 185 ballots with this anomaly. The December 16th version has only 181.

With each updated version, ballots are deleted. There were 9,763 fewer ballot entries between the Nov 10th Version and Nov 16th Version. 3,687 fewer ballot entries between the Nov 16th Version and the December 16th Version.

The Texas Lawsuit lays out many of the impossible anomalies from the Nov 10th Version.

FACT 3: Access to the database was blocked on November 21st after viral videos drew public attention and then were unblocked on November 25th after Pennsylvania certified Vice President Joe Biden on November 24th.

FACT 4: On December 3rd, HereIsTheEvidence released the HereIsTheEvidence Analyzer to enable anyone (including journalists) to verify/find anomalies in election data.

The HereIsTheEvidence Analyzer was applied to the December 16th dataset and this is what was found:​

1. 161,774 mail-in ballot records were changed between Nov 10th version and the Dec 16th Version. Of the changes, 116,840 ballots were given new return dates.

Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that any ballots without a postmark should “be presumed to have been mailed by Election Day” unless there was strong evidence to the contrary.
The evidence from official records show that 116,840 mail-in ballots have had changed “Return Date” entries between November 10th and December 16th.

2. 69,004 ballots were marked “Returned” after November 3rd.

Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar reported on November 10th that only 10,000 ballots were received after November 3rd. She declared that same number to the Supreme Court on November 30th.

3. 19,660 ballots were marked “Returned” after November 6th.

Pennsylvania Supreme Court usurped established Pennsylvania legislation to allow ballots to be counted if received by November 6th. Ballots received after the 6th were to be rejected.
Pennsylvania rejected 7,411 in the 2020 election, as of November 20th.

4. Counties allowed new ballots to be filled out after the election.

Pennsylvania’s deadline for mail-in applications was October 27th, yet new ballots were being filled out and submitted daily.
Berks county was filling out and submitting new ballots on November 16th.

5. OpenDataPA has a visualizer to explore the current dataset, but it hides ballots received after November 3rd.

Until Pennsylvania updates their Visualizer to show all ballots, you can use the HereIsTheEvidence Analyzer to verify these claims.
Check out the code, it’s open source.

6. As laid out in the Texas lawsuit, Pennsylvania’s mail-in ballot anomalies at 118,426 affected ballots. The anomalies from this December 16th version shows:

• 161,774 records have alterations
  • Of these alterations:
    • 116,840 were Returned Dates changes
    • 69,004 were marked “Returned” after Nov 3rd
    • 19,660 were marked “Returned” after Nov 6th
• 13,450 ballots have been deleted since Nov 10th
• 10,415 Return Date with no Mail Date
• 5,052 Applications Returned after Ballot Mailed
• 1,034 Applications Approved after Application Returned

Totaling: 191,725 mail-in ballots were touched by alterations, illegality, or anomalies according to data.PA.gov.

In Pennsylvania’s response to the Texas lawsuit, they did not address the mail-in ballot anomalies.

Mail-in ballots touched by alterations, illegality, or anomalies in Pennsylvania​