“Avoid Violence” – Liberals’ New Phony Excuse

Show me one time where a school cracked down on a hate hoaxer who got caught.

Every time they get caught, the school yawns and apologizes to them for catching them...
 
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Especially in the Charlottesville turmoil, it has become routine for liberal city fathers to not permit marches, rallies protests, or other forms of conservative free speech. Alleged fear of violence is being used as the excuse. Nobody (other tahl leftist lunatics) wants violence, especially deaths like Heather Myers, but we all (and our 1st amendment right) is being attacked.

Conservatives, (both rational and radical), are being denied access to public speaking events. Recently, the University of California at Berkeley canceled conservative commentator Ann Coulter’s April 27 speech, amid threats of violence. In February, UC Berkeley also canceled a campus event featuring conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, after protesters threw rocks, broke windows, and set fires outside the school’s student union building to protest his appearance.

Some liberals have openly lent support to this speech stifling. Richard Cohen of Southern Poverty Law Center said that students and universities “should not give racists an audience.” That within the context of his definition of “racists”.

In other eyebrow raising events, Michael Savage has been banned from an entire, very liberal country (England). And in San Francisco, the pro-Trump group Patriot Prayer canceled the “Freedom Rally,” they had planned, due to excpected violence from counterprotesters, and a likely lack of police protection (FOR THEM). Organizers of the “Freedom Rally,” blamed the cancellation of their event on public officials, who they say have falsely portrayed them as violent right-wing extremists intent on bringing hate to San Francisco. Speaking with reporters Saturday afternoon, Joey Gibson, founder of Patriot Prayer, also blamed “antifa,” referring to anti-fascist groups, and BAMN, or By Any Means Necessary, a left-wing group. He said the groups followed them throughout the day and kept them from holding events.

But is it really violence that these pious politicians are worried about ? Or is it the truth they fear ? >> …..and that conservatives could deprogram millions of brainwashed and wrongheaded people ?

There is really no reason to fear violence in the street, on college campuses, or anywhere else. Whatever troublemaker loons begin to cause can be controlled and stopped quickly and effectively, by police, private security, state police, and National Guard if necessary. At worst, federal troops can stop civil disturbances, but rarely would that be necessary.

The only reason violence has been occurring in US streets (Chicago, San Jose, Ferguson, Baltimore, New York, Charlottesville) is because Democrat mayors have been stopping their police from taking action . As in these cities, in Tampa, FL, protestors blocked traffic in a downtown street for about 2 hours. Police made no arrests. Took no action. Why ? Democrat mayor in political sympathy with the traffic blockers (AKA “terrorists”), could be the only reason. No way, this was the decision of police, on their own. It is politics gone wild (and crazy) that is responsible for violence BEING PERMITTED, and coming from mayors’ offices.

Simple solution ? Don’t permit violence. Crack down on it, and hard. When the leftist, anarchist nuts know they will be arrested, and cannot stop free speech of conservatives (or anyone), their whole regimen will cease.

They only show up and cause violence (in cities with Democrat mayors) when they know that mayor will have police stand down, and allow them to block traffic, attack protesters, vandalize monuments or other public items, shout down speakers, etc.

Threat of violence ? Bull! Don’t you believe that. That is a red herring. Violence can easily be stopped (or prevented entirely) as long as there is a WILL to stop it. America’s problem right now is rogue mayors who allow it, by handcuffing their own police, and occasionally Democrat governors (ex. Jay Nixon - Missouri), who called out the National Guard, in response to the Ferguson rioting, and then moved them far away from the violence/rioting.

Pro-Trump group cancels San Francisco rally as hundreds of counterprotesters march on the streets

College students testify: Free speech under assault on campuses

Conservative speech is hate speech! It's really that simple.

The Supreme Court (ruled 5-4) in Morse v. Frederick, 551 U.S. 393 (2007) that:

The 1st A. does not prevent educators from suppressing, at or across the street from a school-supervised event, student speech that is reasonably viewed as promoting illegal drug use.

It does not take a genius to see the precedent set, which allows public officials to suppress hate speech which even a deplorable knows is incendiary and likely to cause violence in a public forum.

You're a totalitarian idiot. Oh yes, Trump sucks.
 
Especially in the Charlottesville turmoil, it has become routine for liberal city fathers to not permit marches, rallies protests, or other forms of conservative free speech. Alleged fear of violence is being used as the excuse. Nobody (other tahl leftist lunatics) wants violence, especially deaths like Heather Myers, but we all (and our 1st amendment right) is being attacked.

Conservatives, (both rational and radical), are being denied access to public speaking events. Recently, the University of California at Berkeley canceled conservative commentator Ann Coulter’s April 27 speech, amid threats of violence. In February, UC Berkeley also canceled a campus event featuring conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, after protesters threw rocks, broke windows, and set fires outside the school’s student union building to protest his appearance.

Some liberals have openly lent support to this speech stifling. Richard Cohen of Southern Poverty Law Center said that students and universities “should not give racists an audience.” That within the context of his definition of “racists”.

In other eyebrow raising events, Michael Savage has been banned from an entire, very liberal country (England). And in San Francisco, the pro-Trump group Patriot Prayer canceled the “Freedom Rally,” they had planned, due to excpected violence from counterprotesters, and a likely lack of police protection (FOR THEM). Organizers of the “Freedom Rally,” blamed the cancellation of their event on public officials, who they say have falsely portrayed them as violent right-wing extremists intent on bringing hate to San Francisco. Speaking with reporters Saturday afternoon, Joey Gibson, founder of Patriot Prayer, also blamed “antifa,” referring to anti-fascist groups, and BAMN, or By Any Means Necessary, a left-wing group. He said the groups followed them throughout the day and kept them from holding events.

But is it really violence that these pious politicians are worried about ? Or is it the truth they fear ? >> …..and that conservatives could deprogram millions of brainwashed and wrongheaded people ?

There is really no reason to fear violence in the street, on college campuses, or anywhere else. Whatever troublemaker loons begin to cause can be controlled and stopped quickly and effectively, by police, private security, state police, and National Guard if necessary. At worst, federal troops can stop civil disturbances, but rarely would that be necessary.

The only reason violence has been occurring in US streets (Chicago, San Jose, Ferguson, Baltimore, New York, Charlottesville) is because Democrat mayors have been stopping their police from taking action . As in these cities, in Tampa, FL, protestors blocked traffic in a downtown street for about 2 hours. Police made no arrests. Took no action. Why ? Democrat mayor in political sympathy with the traffic blockers (AKA “terrorists”), could be the only reason. No way, this was the decision of police, on their own. It is politics gone wild (and crazy) that is responsible for violence BEING PERMITTED, and coming from mayors’ offices.

Simple solution ? Don’t permit violence. Crack down on it, and hard. When the leftist, anarchist nuts know they will be arrested, and cannot stop free speech of conservatives (or anyone), their whole regimen will cease.

They only show up and cause violence (in cities with Democrat mayors) when they know that mayor will have police stand down, and allow them to block traffic, attack protesters, vandalize monuments or other public items, shout down speakers, etc.

Threat of violence ? Bull! Don’t you believe that. That is a red herring. Violence can easily be stopped (or prevented entirely) as long as there is a WILL to stop it. America’s problem right now is rogue mayors who allow it, by handcuffing their own police, and occasionally Democrat governors (ex. Jay Nixon - Missouri), who called out the National Guard, in response to the Ferguson rioting, and then moved them far away from the violence/rioting.

Pro-Trump group cancels San Francisco rally as hundreds of counterprotesters march on the streets

College students testify: Free speech under assault on campuses

Conservative speech is hate speech! It's really that simple.

The Supreme Court (ruled 5-4) in Morse v. Frederick, 551 U.S. 393 (2007) that:

The 1st A. does not prevent educators from suppressing, at or across the street from a school-supervised event, student speech that is reasonably viewed as promoting illegal drug use.

It does not take a genius to see the precedent set, which allows public officials to suppress hate speech which even a deplorable knows is incendiary and likely to cause violence in a public forum.
who are you?

Just a guy with an IQ and an education way beyond your double digit level and GED.

Is it your little dick that compels you to tell everyone how great you think you are? You Lefty's are compelled to try and use the law to shut everyone up that you disagree with.
 
Is it your little dick that compels you to tell everyone how great you think you are? You Lefty's are compelled to try and use the law to shut everyone up that you disagree with.
It is the law (SCOTUS) that will order the statues to be returned to their original locations, and the Lefty statue removers will foot all the BILLS$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ >. removal, return, any physical damage, damages$$$ to palintiffs, ALL legal fees (plaintiffs& defendants both)
 
I guessed you missed Pelosi's condemnation of Antifa from yesterday. Or maybe she isn't a snowflake?
She is in US Congress. That's not the level that is needed to fix the problem (which is at local levels), and she knows it. She can talk all she likes. She knows it's ineffectual.
 
Especially in the Charlottesville turmoil, it has become routine for liberal city fathers to not permit marches, rallies protests, or other forms of conservative free speech. Alleged fear of violence is being used as the excuse. Nobody (other tahl leftist lunatics) wants violence, especially deaths like Heather Myers, but we all (and our 1st amendment right) is being attacked.

Conservatives, (both rational and radical), are being denied access to public speaking events. Recently, the University of California at Berkeley canceled conservative commentator Ann Coulter’s April 27 speech, amid threats of violence. In February, UC Berkeley also canceled a campus event featuring conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, after protesters threw rocks, broke windows, and set fires outside the school’s student union building to protest his appearance.

Some liberals have openly lent support to this speech stifling. Richard Cohen of Southern Poverty Law Center said that students and universities “should not give racists an audience.” That within the context of his definition of “racists”.

In other eyebrow raising events, Michael Savage has been banned from an entire, very liberal country (England). And in San Francisco, the pro-Trump group Patriot Prayer canceled the “Freedom Rally,” they had planned, due to excpected violence from counterprotesters, and a likely lack of police protection (FOR THEM). Organizers of the “Freedom Rally,” blamed the cancellation of their event on public officials, who they say have falsely portrayed them as violent right-wing extremists intent on bringing hate to San Francisco. Speaking with reporters Saturday afternoon, Joey Gibson, founder of Patriot Prayer, also blamed “antifa,” referring to anti-fascist groups, and BAMN, or By Any Means Necessary, a left-wing group. He said the groups followed them throughout the day and kept them from holding events.

But is it really violence that these pious politicians are worried about ? Or is it the truth they fear ? >> …..and that conservatives could deprogram millions of brainwashed and wrongheaded people ?

There is really no reason to fear violence in the street, on college campuses, or anywhere else. Whatever troublemaker loons begin to cause can be controlled and stopped quickly and effectively, by police, private security, state police, and National Guard if necessary. At worst, federal troops can stop civil disturbances, but rarely would that be necessary.

The only reason violence has been occurring in US streets (Chicago, San Jose, Ferguson, Baltimore, New York, Charlottesville) is because Democrat mayors have been stopping their police from taking action . As in these cities, in Tampa, FL, protestors blocked traffic in a downtown street for about 2 hours. Police made no arrests. Took no action. Why ? Democrat mayor in political sympathy with the traffic blockers (AKA “terrorists”), could be the only reason. No way, this was the decision of police, on their own. It is politics gone wild (and crazy) that is responsible for violence BEING PERMITTED, and coming from mayors’ offices.

Simple solution ? Don’t permit violence. Crack down on it, and hard. When the leftist, anarchist nuts know they will be arrested, and cannot stop free speech of conservatives (or anyone), their whole regimen will cease.

They only show up and cause violence (in cities with Democrat mayors) when they know that mayor will have police stand down, and allow them to block traffic, attack protesters, vandalize monuments or other public items, shout down speakers, etc.

Threat of violence ? Bull! Don’t you believe that. That is a red herring. Violence can easily be stopped (or prevented entirely) as long as there is a WILL to stop it. America’s problem right now is rogue mayors who allow it, by handcuffing their own police, and occasionally Democrat governors (ex. Jay Nixon - Missouri), who called out the National Guard, in response to the Ferguson rioting, and then moved them far away from the violence/rioting.

Pro-Trump group cancels San Francisco rally as hundreds of counterprotesters march on the streets

College students testify: Free speech under assault on campuses

Translation: We in Klan and White Supremicists are merely peaceful, law abiding, inclusive, loving folks.
 
I've already defended their right to free speech in that situation. I was talking about situations when speech can be considered an offense if taken too far

"when speech can be considered an offense if taken too far" >> As in the case of the Charlottesville counterprotestors who blocked the street, blocked the protestors legal march, attacked protestors, incited a riot, rioted, causing a disturbance, assault, battery, etc etc.
 
On its face, the neo-nazi seek to arouse incendiary emotions, and comes very near to the crime of inciting a riot but not far enough according to Hess v. Indiana, 414 U.S. 105 (1973) and Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U. S. 395; however, by carrying firearms and other weapons and shields the court might find such behavior so incendiary as to promote violence and rule differently in the future.
Carrying firearms is legal if one has a permit. It is preparing for self-defense, not promoting anything.
 
Translation: We in Klan and White Supremicists are merely peaceful, law abiding, inclusive, loving folks.
Typical leftist straw man BS attack. Ordinary protesters (not affiliated with any org), including those who march to protest removal of statues, are >> "merely peaceful, law abiding, inclusive, loving folks"

Thanks for the description. :biggrin:
 
Translation: We in Klan and White Supremicists are merely peaceful, law abiding, inclusive, loving folks.
Typical leftist straw man BS attack. Ordinary protesters (not affiliated with any org), including those who march to protest removal of statues, are >> "merely peaceful, law abiding, inclusive, loving folks"

Thanks for the description. :biggrin:
You asshole started this thread with this "
"Nobody (other tahl leftist lunatics) wants violence, especially deaths like Heather Myers, but we all (and our 1st amendment right) is being attacked."
Fuck you, you piece of racist filth
 
On its face, the neo-nazi seek to arouse incendiary emotions, and comes very near to the crime of inciting a riot but not far enough according to Hess v. Indiana, 414 U.S. 105 (1973) and Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U. S. 395; however, by carrying firearms and other weapons and shields the court might find such behavior so incendiary as to promote violence and rule differently in the future.

Carrying firearms is legal if one has a permit. It is preparing for self-defense, not promoting anything.

Q. Did I write it was illegal

A. I did not, I wrote is is incendiary.

Read what I wrote, not what your biases translate.
 
You asshole started this thread with this "
"Nobody (other tahl leftist lunatics) wants violence, especially deaths like Heather Myers, but we all (and our 1st amendment right) is being attacked."
Fuck you, you piece of racist filth
Yeah, I said that, and I say it again, right now. So what's your problem ? The Charlottesville violence came entirely from leftist jerks, blocking traffic, blocking a peaceful, permit-granted march in the street, attacking protesters. what;s the matter ? Truth hurts ?

And where did the "racist" jab come from ? I said something racist ? But you don't care. It's your obligatory race card. You throw it out no matter what, right ?

PS - notice I managed to get all that out without stooping to profanity. Try harder, dirtmouth.
 
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Q. Did I write it was illegal

A. I did not, I wrote is is incendiary.

Read what I wrote, not what your biases translate.
I wasn't commenting on your words. I was adding my own thought. You're welcome. :biggrin:
 
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Especially in the Charlottesville turmoil, it has become routine for liberal city fathers to not permit marches, rallies protests, or other forms of conservative free speech. Alleged fear of violence is being used as the excuse. Nobody (other tahl leftist lunatics) wants violence, especially deaths like Heather Myers, but we all (and our 1st amendment right) is being attacked.

Conservatives, (both rational and radical), are being denied access to public speaking events. Recently, the University of California at Berkeley canceled conservative commentator Ann Coulter’s April 27 speech, amid threats of violence. In February, UC Berkeley also canceled a campus event featuring conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, after protesters threw rocks, broke windows, and set fires outside the school’s student union building to protest his appearance.

Some liberals have openly lent support to this speech stifling. Richard Cohen of Southern Poverty Law Center said that students and universities “should not give racists an audience.” That within the context of his definition of “racists”.

In other eyebrow raising events, Michael Savage has been banned from an entire, very liberal country (England). And in San Francisco, the pro-Trump group Patriot Prayer canceled the “Freedom Rally,” they had planned, due to excpected violence from counterprotesters, and a likely lack of police protection (FOR THEM). Organizers of the “Freedom Rally,” blamed the cancellation of their event on public officials, who they say have falsely portrayed them as violent right-wing extremists intent on bringing hate to San Francisco. Speaking with reporters Saturday afternoon, Joey Gibson, founder of Patriot Prayer, also blamed “antifa,” referring to anti-fascist groups, and BAMN, or By Any Means Necessary, a left-wing group. He said the groups followed them throughout the day and kept them from holding events.

But is it really violence that these pious politicians are worried about ? Or is it the truth they fear ? >> …..and that conservatives could deprogram millions of brainwashed and wrongheaded people ?

There is really no reason to fear violence in the street, on college campuses, or anywhere else. Whatever troublemaker loons begin to cause can be controlled and stopped quickly and effectively, by police, private security, state police, and National Guard if necessary. At worst, federal troops can stop civil disturbances, but rarely would that be necessary.

The only reason violence has been occurring in US streets (Chicago, San Jose, Ferguson, Baltimore, New York, Charlottesville) is because Democrat mayors have been stopping their police from taking action . As in these cities, in Tampa, FL, protestors blocked traffic in a downtown street for about 2 hours. Police made no arrests. Took no action. Why ? Democrat mayor in political sympathy with the traffic blockers (AKA “terrorists”), could be the only reason. No way, this was the decision of police, on their own. It is politics gone wild (and crazy) that is responsible for violence BEING PERMITTED, and coming from mayors’ offices.

Simple solution ? Don’t permit violence. Crack down on it, and hard. When the leftist, anarchist nuts know they will be arrested, and cannot stop free speech of conservatives (or anyone), their whole regimen will cease.

They only show up and cause violence (in cities with Democrat mayors) when they know that mayor will have police stand down, and allow them to block traffic, attack protesters, vandalize monuments or other public items, shout down speakers, etc.

Threat of violence ? Bull! Don’t you believe that. That is a red herring. Violence can easily be stopped (or prevented entirely) as long as there is a WILL to stop it. America’s problem right now is rogue mayors who allow it, by handcuffing their own police, and occasionally Democrat governors (ex. Jay Nixon - Missouri), who called out the National Guard, in response to the Ferguson rioting, and then moved them far away from the violence/rioting.

Pro-Trump group cancels San Francisco rally as hundreds of counterprotesters march on the streets

College students testify: Free speech under assault on campuses

Conservative speech is hate speech! It's really that simple.

The Supreme Court (ruled 5-4) in Morse v. Frederick, 551 U.S. 393 (2007) that:

The 1st A. does not prevent educators from suppressing, at or across the street from a school-supervised event, student speech that is reasonably viewed as promoting illegal drug use.

It does not take a genius to see the precedent set, which allows public officials to suppress hate speech which even a deplorable knows is incendiary and likely to cause violence in a public forum.
So if someone hasn't said a word or may say something you disagree with is hate speech?

Not saying something is incendiary?

Public officials should read the Constitution.
 
Not true at all. You're gonna have to do better than empty statements if you want to make a compelling point.


LOL!!!


When the leftist shot up the GOP House baseball team, nobody was saying every single Dem had to apologize over and over and that shooter represented all Dems.

When a lone wolf in Charlottesville, assuming you believe it was not a hoax, drives a vehicle through a crowd and kills one, you fucked in the head hypocrites scream over and over and over that guy is exhibit A of all non-Dems and every non-Dem needs to apologize over and over and over and condemn anyone who doesn't want to pay to have the statue of Lee taken down...
Are you high? You are comparing a lone gunman to a Nazi/KKK rally. One represents a sick man and the other represents a movement, a mob, a group that promotes hate, and one of their members snapped and took it too far. Their movement should absolutely be condemned as it will only lead to more violence. And nowhere did I imply that the Nazis represent everybody on the right. If you really don't understand the difference between these situations then you really are clueless.
still not the same thing.

he's more saying when there is a lone event / person acting in an extreme manner that is "left-based" the left is quick to point out how that person doesn't represent them.

however, when someone on "the right" does something stupid, the left props him up as an example of how all on that side feel.

not 100% inclusive or anything but it does seem the left will do this quite often.
 
Not true at all. You're gonna have to do better than empty statements if you want to make a compelling point.


LOL!!!


When the leftist shot up the GOP House baseball team, nobody was saying every single Dem had to apologize over and over and that shooter represented all Dems.

When a lone wolf in Charlottesville, assuming you believe it was not a hoax, drives a vehicle through a crowd and kills one, you fucked in the head hypocrites scream over and over and over that guy is exhibit A of all non-Dems and every non-Dem needs to apologize over and over and over and condemn anyone who doesn't want to pay to have the statue of Lee taken down...
Are you high? You are comparing a lone gunman to a Nazi/KKK rally. One represents a sick man and the other represents a movement, a mob, a group that promotes hate, and one of their members snapped and took it too far. Their movement should absolutely be condemned as it will only lead to more violence. And nowhere did I imply that the Nazis represent everybody on the right. If you really don't understand the difference between these situations then you really are clueless.
still not the same thing.

he's more saying when there is a lone event / person acting in an extreme manner that is "left-based" the left is quick to point out how that person doesn't represent them.

however, when someone on "the right" does something stupid, the left props him up as an example of how all on that side feel.

not 100% inclusive or anything but it does seem the left will do this quite often.
The leftist's favorite toy >>

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