“Avoid Violence” – Liberals’ New Phony Excuse

[Mac1958]

Democrats lost their way a decade ago and now the leaderless agendaless mob depends on Alinsky for direction.

I'm afraid that's not far off.
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[protectionist]

Conservative speech is hate speech! It's really that simple.

The Supreme Court (ruled 5-4) in Morse v. Frederick, 551 U.S. 393 (2007) that:

The 1st A. does not prevent educators from suppressing, at or across the street from a school-supervised event, student speech that is reasonably viewed as promoting illegal drug use.

It does not take a genius to see the precedent set, which allows public officials to suppress hate speech which even a deplorable knows is incendiary and likely to cause violence in a public forum.

FALSE! And this post is a perfect example of the silence the opposition fascism of the looney left. They think we all subscribe to their insane definitions of "hate speech", which are about as valid as a $3 bill.

 

[protectionist]

yep it seems the reward goes to the violent antifa's how white of them. That only promotes violence btw. The way to remove the violence is to let the cops do their jobs and take these whackamoles out. You'll see that stop immediately. It's the equivalent of saying taking guns out of the hands of innocent people to allow the villain access and commit violence. It is only the stupid of the left. amazing.

And the FASCISM of them (which they hypocritically complain so much about)

 

[Slade3200]

Conservative speech is hate speech! It's really that simple.

The Supreme Court (ruled 5-4) in Morse v. Frederick, 551 U.S. 393 (2007) that:

The 1st A. does not prevent educators from suppressing, at or across the street from a school-supervised event, student speech that is reasonably viewed as promoting illegal drug use.

It does not take a genius to see the precedent set, which allows public officials to suppress hate speech which even a deplorable knows is incendiary and likely to cause violence in a public forum.

FALSE! And this post is a perfect example of the silence the opposition fascism of the looney left. They think we all subscribe to their insane definitions of "hate speech", which are about as valid as a $3 bill.

The looney left blames the right for everything and the looney right blames everything in the left. Why waste time focusing on the radical wingnut elements of both sides? They just make meaningless noise

 

[protectionist]

ANTIFA are violent anarchists, they don't represent liberals democrats conservatives or republicans.

But Democrat mayors would disagree with you. They back antifa, BLM, et al loons, by allowing their violent activity to go forth.

 

[protectionist]

The looney left blames the right for everything and the looney right blames everything in the left. Why waste time focusing on the radical wingnut elements of both sides? They just make meaningless noise

We're talking about MAYORS. Get it ?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Especially in the Charlottesville turmoil, it has become routine for liberal city fathers to not permit marches, rallies protests, or other forms of conservative free speech. Alleged fear of violence is being used as the excuse. Nobody (other tahl leftist lunatics) wants violence, especially deaths like Heather Myers, but we all (and our 1st amendment right) is being attacked.

Conservatives, (both rational and radical), are being denied access to public speaking events. Recently, the University of California at Berkeley canceled conservative commentator Ann Coulter’s April 27 speech, amid threats of violence. In February, UC Berkeley also canceled a campus event featuring conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, after protesters threw rocks, broke windows, and set fires outside the school’s student union building to protest his appearance.

Some liberals have openly lent support to this speech stifling. Richard Cohen of Southern Poverty Law Center said that students and universities “should not give racists an audience.” That within the context of his definition of “racists”.

In other eyebrow raising events, Michael Savage has been banned from an entire, very liberal country (England). And in San Francisco, the pro-Trump group Patriot Prayer canceled the “Freedom Rally,” they had planned, due to excpected violence from counterprotesters, and a likely lack of police protection (FOR THEM). Organizers of the “Freedom Rally,” blamed the cancellation of their event on public officials, who they say have falsely portrayed them as violent right-wing extremists intent on bringing hate to San Francisco. Speaking with reporters Saturday afternoon, Joey Gibson, founder of Patriot Prayer, also blamed “antifa,” referring to anti-fascist groups, and BAMN, or By Any Means Necessary, a left-wing group. He said the groups followed them throughout the day and kept them from holding events.

But is it really violence that these pious politicians are worried about ? Or is it the truth they fear ? >> …..and that conservatives could deprogram millions of brainwashed and wrongheaded people ?

There is really no reason to fear violence in the street, on college campuses, or anywhere else. Whatever troublemaker loons begin to cause can be controlled and stopped quickly and effectively, by police, private security, state police, and National Guard if necessary. At worst, federal troops can stop civil disturbances, but rarely would that be necessary.

The only reason violence has been occurring in US streets (Chicago, San Jose, Ferguson, Baltimore, New York, Charlottesville) is because Democrat mayors have been stopping their police from taking action . As in these cities, in Tampa, FL, protestors blocked traffic in a downtown street for about 2 hours. Police made no arrests. Took no action. Why ? Democrat mayor in political sympathy with the traffic blockers (AKA “terrorists”), could be the only reason. No way, this was the decision of police, on their own. It is politics gone wild (and crazy) that is responsible for violence BEING PERMITTED, and coming from mayors’ offices.

Simple solution ? Don’t permit violence. Crack down on it, and hard. When the leftist, anarchist nuts know they will be arrested, and cannot stop free speech of conservatives (or anyone), their whole regimen will cease.

They only show up and cause violence (in cities with Democrat mayors) when they know that mayor will have police stand down, and allow them to block traffic, attack protesters, vandalize monuments or other public items, shout down speakers, etc.

Threat of violence ? Bull! Don’t you believe that. That is a red herring. Violence can easily be stopped (or prevented entirely) as long as there is a WILL to stop it. America’s problem right now is rogue mayors who allow it, by handcuffing their own police, and occasionally Democrat governors (ex. Jay Nixon - Missouri), who called out the National Guard, in response to the Ferguson rioting, and then moved them far away from the violence/rioting.

Pro-Trump group cancels San Francisco rally as hundreds of counterprotesters march on the streets

College students testify: Free speech under assault on campuses

Conservative speech is hate speech! It's really that simple.

The Supreme Court (ruled 5-4) in Morse v. Frederick, 551 U.S. 393 (2007) that:

The 1st A. does not prevent educators from suppressing, at or across the street from a school-supervised event, student speech that is reasonably viewed as promoting illegal drug use.

It does not take a genius to see the precedent set, which allows public officials to suppress hate speech which even a deplorable knows is incendiary and likely to cause violence in a public forum.

who are you?

A complete moron obviously....likely this guy...

 

[protectionist]

"Heather Myers"? You can't even be bothered to learn her name?

What are you, an American Citizen hater?

So if I follow this, "nobody wants violence" but when it happens the victim is nameless, and that's how much 'nobody wants violence' is it?

Can't figure out what this mish-mash is saying.

 

[Slade3200]

ANTIFA are violent anarchists, they don't represent liberals democrats conservatives or republicans.

But Democrat mayors would disagree with you. They back antifa, BLM, et al loons, by allowing their violent activity to go forth.

How so?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Especially in the Charlottesville turmoil, it has become routine for liberal city fathers to not permit marches, rallies protests, or other forms of conservative free speech. Alleged fear of violence is being used as the excuse. Nobody (other tahl leftist lunatics) wants violence, especially deaths like Heather Myers, but we all (and our 1st amendment right) is being attacked.

Conservatives, (both rational and radical), are being denied access to public speaking events. Recently, the University of California at Berkeley canceled conservative commentator Ann Coulter’s April 27 speech, amid threats of violence. In February, UC Berkeley also canceled a campus event featuring conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, after protesters threw rocks, broke windows, and set fires outside the school’s student union building to protest his appearance.

Some liberals have openly lent support to this speech stifling. Richard Cohen of Southern Poverty Law Center said that students and universities “should not give racists an audience.” That within the context of his definition of “racists”.

In other eyebrow raising events, Michael Savage has been banned from an entire, very liberal country (England). And in San Francisco, the pro-Trump group Patriot Prayer canceled the “Freedom Rally,” they had planned, due to excpected violence from counterprotesters, and a likely lack of police protection (FOR THEM). Organizers of the “Freedom Rally,” blamed the cancellation of their event on public officials, who they say have falsely portrayed them as violent right-wing extremists intent on bringing hate to San Francisco. Speaking with reporters Saturday afternoon, Joey Gibson, founder of Patriot Prayer, also blamed “antifa,” referring to anti-fascist groups, and BAMN, or By Any Means Necessary, a left-wing group. He said the groups followed them throughout the day and kept them from holding events.

But is it really violence that these pious politicians are worried about ? Or is it the truth they fear ? >> …..and that conservatives could deprogram millions of brainwashed and wrongheaded people ?

There is really no reason to fear violence in the street, on college campuses, or anywhere else. Whatever troublemaker loons begin to cause can be controlled and stopped quickly and effectively, by police, private security, state police, and National Guard if necessary. At worst, federal troops can stop civil disturbances, but rarely would that be necessary.

The only reason violence has been occurring in US streets (Chicago, San Jose, Ferguson, Baltimore, New York, Charlottesville) is because Democrat mayors have been stopping their police from taking action . As in these cities, in Tampa, FL, protestors blocked traffic in a downtown street for about 2 hours. Police made no arrests. Took no action. Why ? Democrat mayor in political sympathy with the traffic blockers (AKA “terrorists”), could be the only reason. No way, this was the decision of police, on their own. It is politics gone wild (and crazy) that is responsible for violence BEING PERMITTED, and coming from mayors’ offices.

Simple solution ? Don’t permit violence. Crack down on it, and hard. When the leftist, anarchist nuts know they will be arrested, and cannot stop free speech of conservatives (or anyone), their whole regimen will cease.

They only show up and cause violence (in cities with Democrat mayors) when they know that mayor will have police stand down, and allow them to block traffic, attack protesters, vandalize monuments or other public items, shout down speakers, etc.

Threat of violence ? Bull! Don’t you believe that. That is a red herring. Violence can easily be stopped (or prevented entirely) as long as there is a WILL to stop it. America’s problem right now is rogue mayors who allow it, by handcuffing their own police, and occasionally Democrat governors (ex. Jay Nixon - Missouri), who called out the National Guard, in response to the Ferguson rioting, and then moved them far away from the violence/rioting.

Pro-Trump group cancels San Francisco rally as hundreds of counterprotesters march on the streets

College students testify: Free speech under assault on campuses

Conservative speech is hate speech! It's really that simple.

The Supreme Court (ruled 5-4) in Morse v. Frederick, 551 U.S. 393 (2007) that:

The 1st A. does not prevent educators from suppressing, at or across the street from a school-supervised event, student speech that is reasonably viewed as promoting illegal drug use.

It does not take a genius to see the precedent set, which allows public officials to suppress hate speech which even a deplorable knows is incendiary and likely to cause violence in a public forum.

Is being this blatantly stupid painful?

 

[protectionist]

I did many times. I had no clue who they were so I condemned all members that were acting out in violence, I condemned that many times. If they had a good hearted anti-racism faction that was doing good work in the community then I'd support those values so I left that part open. It doesn't appear that they have that side to their group, or at least I haven't seen it, so if that's the case then I can easily condem the group. They are no good and cause more problems than good with their hypocritical violence. Arrest them

Arrest them. Great idea. Now go tell the Democrat mayors & governors that. Come back and tell us how you made out.

 

[protectionist]

How so?

Looks like you didn't read the OP. Bad. Bad.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Conservative speech is hate speech! It's really that simple.

The Supreme Court (ruled 5-4) in Morse v. Frederick, 551 U.S. 393 (2007) that:

The 1st A. does not prevent educators from suppressing, at or across the street from a school-supervised event, student speech that is reasonably viewed as promoting illegal drug use.

It does not take a genius to see the precedent set, which allows public officials to suppress hate speech which even a deplorable knows is incendiary and likely to cause violence in a public forum.

FALSE! And this post is a perfect example of the silence the opposition fascism of the looney left. They think we all subscribe to their insane definitions of "hate speech", which are about as valid as a $3 bill.

It's no wonder you hold the beliefs you do, you're not very intelligent. It's not about hate speech, per se, it is about the freedoms expressed in the 1st A. and the limits that can be imposed on speech and expression to keep the public safe.

Not every right expressed in the Bill of Rights are, or ought to be limitless.

• One cannot yell fire in a crowded theater
• One cannot threaten POTUS
• One cannot walk down a public street naked.

 

[Slade3200]

I did many times. I had no clue who they were so I condemned all members that were acting out in violence, I condemned that many times. If they had a good hearted anti-racism faction that was doing good work in the community then I'd support those values so I left that part open. It doesn't appear that they have that side to their group, or at least I haven't seen it, so if that's the case then I can easily condem the group. They are no good and cause more problems than good with their hypocritical violence. Arrest them

Arrest them. Great idea. Now go tell the Democrat mayors & governors that. Come back and tell us how you made out.

Pelosi did that yesterday. She's got a much bigger mouth than I do

 

[Slade3200]

How so?

Looks like you didn't read the OP. Bad. Bad.

Guilty, apologies

 

[protectionist]

It's only a half truth.

The fact is, both sides demonize the other. How many Democrats Acting Badly topics have you pseudocons started in a pathetic attempt to generalize all democrats as evildoers out to destroy America?

Not meaning to be overly impetuous but the TOPIC is the excuse of violence to SILENCE conservative speech. That combined with Democrat mayors PERMITTING VIOLENCE - thereby opening the door for the excuse.

If it helps, you're not the only one straying a bit from the topic.

 

[protectionist]

Pelosi did that yesterday. She's got a much bigger mouth than I do

Got a link for that ? Not that I don't trust you, but I'd just like to see what she said (faulty brain and all)

 

[protectionist]

"hate speech" = disagreeing with Democrats

So they believe, in their little world.

 

[ColonelAngus]

They claim to be fighting fascism with fascism.

It's all orchestrated political bullshit.

You arrest anyone breaking any laws during demonstrations.

 

[Slade3200]

Pelosi did that yesterday. She's got a much bigger mouth than I do

Got a link for that ? Not that I don't trust you, but I'd just like to see what she said (faulty brain and all)

Sure, here you go

“Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts,” Pelosi said in a statement released late Tuesday. “The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.”

Pelosi condemns ‘violent actions’ of antifa protesters