“Avoid Violence” – Liberals’ New Phony Excuse

[protectionist]

It's no wonder you hold the beliefs you do, you're not very intelligent. It's not about hate speech, per se, it is about the freedoms expressed in the 1st A. and the limits that can be imposed on speech and expression to keep the public safe.

Not every right expressed in the Bill of Rights are, or ought to be limitless.

• One cannot yell fire in a crowded theater
• One cannot threaten POTUS
• One cannot walk down a public street naked.

Oh boy. How profound. I could have named a lot more limits on free speech that you cited. How about slander, libel, perjury, sedition, threats, fighting words, copyright infringement, child porn, inciting a riot, etc etc.

None of this OKs silencing free speech of politically opposing views, which, sorry to disillusion you, has nothing to do with "hate" or whatever else the pocket-stuffing $PLC is conjuring up lately (and you fall for it)

And aside from the free speech part of this thread, are you actually OK with mayors permitting violence ? (when the violence comes from politics they support)

 

[protectionist]

They claim to be fighting fascism with fascism.

It's all orchestrated political bullshit.

You arrest anyone breaking any laws during demonstrations.

But not "our" illustrious Democrat mayors. They cherry-pick who they want to enforce the law upon, and who not to. Then their police brass goes around backing this insanity up (fearing for their jobs)

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Might makes right. You can say anything the left lets you say.

 

[protectionist]

Sure, here you go

“Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts,” Pelosi said in a statement released late Tuesday. “The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.”

Pelosi condemns ‘violent actions’ of antifa protesters

Great Nancy. Let us know when you get a response from Rahm Emanuel (Chicago), Sam Liccardo (San Jose), Micheal Signer (Charlottesville), Bob Buckhorn (Tampa), Stephanie Rawlings (Baltimore), Bill DeBlasio (New York), etc. Keep in touch, Nancy.

 

[Slade3200]

How so?

Looks like you didn't read the OP. Bad. Bad.

Guilty, apologies

Ok I read the OP, get me a cookie... can you elaborate more on the claim the mayors are allowing violence. Link to some evidence of that?

 

[Slade3200]

Sure, here you go

“Our democracy has no room for inciting violence or endangering the public, no matter the ideology of those who commit such acts,” Pelosi said in a statement released late Tuesday. “The violent actions of people calling themselves antifa in Berkeley this weekend deserve unequivocal condemnation, and the perpetrators should be arrested and prosecuted.”

Pelosi condemns ‘violent actions’ of antifa protesters

Great Nancy. Let us know when you get a response from Rahm Emanuel (Chicago), Sam Liccardo (San Jose), Micheal Signer (Charlottesville), Bob Buckhorn (Tampa), Stephanie Rawlings (Baltimore), Bill DeBlasio (New York), etc. Keep in touch, Nancy.

How about some credit where credit is due? She said exactly what you are calling on her to say, did she not? Are you upset that it is messing with your narrative that all Dems are enabling Antifa violence?

 

[protectionist]

Ok I read the OP, get me a cookie... can you elaborate more on the claim the mayors are allowing violence. Link to some evidence of that?

Are you for real ? Case after case, after case, for over a year, and you ask for evidence ? Dude. Some things are waaaaaay to KNOWN for evidence to be asked for. In case you've been living in a cave without TV or computer, we have WATCHED while cops backed off from rock-throwing punks in Baltimore. We saw saw cops take no action in Charlottesville.

Here in Tampa I talked with a police Lt. who, laughably, tried to justify allowing traffic blockers to clog up a street for 2 hours. We WATCHED Mexican illegal aliens chase after Trump supporters in San Jose, CA, and attack them. We SAW the same in Chicago.

YOU'RE WELCOME for having me dignify with a response, one of the most idiotic requests in the history of this forum. Be advised. No matter how hard this may be to a liberal, you can't request evidence for everything or anything. Wanna show me evidence that fish can swim ? Sheeesh!

 

[protectionist]

How about some credit where credit is due? She said exactly what you are calling on her to say, did she not? Are you upset that it is messing with your narrative that all Dems are enabling Antifa violence?

That's not MY narrative. Again I question if you read the OP.

 

[g5000]

It's only a half truth.

The fact is, both sides demonize the other. How many Democrats Acting Badly topics have you pseudocons started in a pathetic attempt to generalize all democrats as evildoers out to destroy America?

Not meaning to be overly impetuous but the TOPIC is the excuse of violence to SILENCE conservative speech. That combined with Democrat mayors PERMITTING VIOLENCE - thereby opening the door for the excuse.

If it helps, you're not the only one straying a bit from the topic.

Well, a great part of the deliberately created divide in this county is this tendency to point out the mote in the other guy's eye while ignoring the beam in your own.

It's like listening to a hooker complain about all the promiscuity that occurs at office Christmas parties.

 

[protectionist]

Well, a great part of the deliberately created divide in this county is this tendency to point out the mote in the other guy's eye while ignoring the beam in your own.

It's like listening to a hooker complain about all the promiscuity that occurs at office Christmas parties.

I don't follow. For the benefit of the thread, >> Talk about the Mayors, and the speech blockers.

 

[g5000]

Well, a great part of the deliberately created divide in this county is this tendency to point out the mote in the other guy's eye while ignoring the beam in your own.

It's like listening to a hooker complain about all the promiscuity that occurs at office Christmas parties.

I don't follow.

I know. You have been deliberately blinded by your propaganda masters.

 

[LaDexter]

Which hate mob was the lone gunman a part of?

That's just it, he apparently wasn't part of any of the "groups" there, he was a loner.

Nobody was calling on Dems to condemn lone gunman because it's obviously condemnable

What pure 100% left wing bullshit that is...

There was a Nazi/KKK mob that both sides were called on to condemn for very obvious reasons

Why? They were exercising a First Amendment right. The statue was coming down regardless. The problem is that the taxpayer is funding a lot of do-nothing left wing activists who have nothing to do except show up to such events to provoke trouble, which is exactly what happened. If your side of taxpayer funded bigots doesn't show up and start tossing shit at the KKK, nothing happens there.

I can't believe that I need to explain this to you

Let me explain a few things to you, bigot. Everyone in the US has a First Amendment right. You do not decide who does and who does not. Your side is not allowed to start violence to interfere with First Amendment right, yet here you are cheering on what Antifa did and trying to blame it all on one loner....

 

[Wry Catcher]

"hate speech" = disagreeing with Democrats

So they believe, in their little world.

Hate speech examples:

• "libtard"
• "Demorat"
• "Dumbocrat"
• "Obumma"
• "Lock her Up"
• "Commie" and other pejoratives

 

[LaDexter]

"Not hate speech" examples from leftists

- right wing nut job
- Orange Clown
- anti-science
- gun nuts

 

[Wry Catcher]

It's no wonder you hold the beliefs you do, you're not very intelligent. It's not about hate speech, per se, it is about the freedoms expressed in the 1st A. and the limits that can be imposed on speech and expression to keep the public safe.

Not every right expressed in the Bill of Rights are, or ought to be limitless.

• One cannot yell fire in a crowded theater
• One cannot threaten POTUS
• One cannot walk down a public street naked.

Oh boy. How profound. I could have named a lot more limits on free speech that you cited. How about slander, libel, perjury, sedition, threats, fighting words, copyright infringement, child porn, inciting a riot, etc etc.

None of this OKs silencing free speech of politically opposing views, which, sorry to disillusion you, has nothing to do with "hate" or whatever else the pocket-stuffing $PLC is conjuring up lately (and you fall for it)

And aside from the free speech part of this thread, are you actually OK with mayors permitting violence ? (when the violence comes from politics they support)

Mayor's do not condone violence; violence is perpetrated by thugs and biddable wannabes who seek to be included and maybe noticed. But, violence begets more violence. It is incendiary to carry firearms and other weapons to a political rally and incendiary when speaker such as Coulter and even Trump offer red meat to those who want violence and those who follow them.

 

[Slade3200]

Ok I read the OP, get me a cookie... can you elaborate more on the claim the mayors are allowing violence. Link to some evidence of that?

Are you for real ? Case after case, after case, for over a year, and you ask for evidence ? Dude. Some things are waaaaaay to KNOWN for evidence to be asked for. In case you've been living in a cave without TV or computer, we have WATCHED while cops backed off from rock-throwing punks in Baltimore. We saw saw cops take no action in Charlottesville.

Here in Tampa I talked with a police Lt. who, laughably, tried to justify allowing traffic blockers to clog up a street for 2 hours. We WATCHED Mexican illegal aliens chase after Trump supporters in San Jose, CA, and attack them. We SAW the same in Chicago.

YOU'RE WELCOME for having me dignify with a response, one of the most idiotic requests in the history of this forum. Be advised. No matter how hard this may be to a liberal, you can't request evidence for everything or anything. Wanna show me evidence that fish can swim ? Sheeesh!

You are complaining about cops but blaming mayors and governors and congressmen. So I'm guessing you assume that those leaders are directing the cops to stand down? Is that right, do you have anybody on record to support that? Or is it a rules of engagement issue? If thats the case then lets look at what their protocol is and then see if this is something that only democrat mayors are instituting or if it is across the board. So you know, I'm not defending anybody here Im simply seeking evidence and proof to support your claims. I'm happy to assign blame if blame is due, but show me the actual evidence.

 

[Slade3200]

How about some credit where credit is due? She said exactly what you are calling on her to say, did she not? Are you upset that it is messing with your narrative that all Dems are enabling Antifa violence?

That's not MY narrative. Again I question if you read the OP.

Can we stop with the word games and just have a discussion, its like pulling teeth if you are going to avoid responding because of these little corrections. You didn't say ALL dems support antifa, you are blaming dems and their leaders in enabling the shut down of conservative speech and ignoring left wing violence like Antifa. Can we move forward with the discussion now?

 

[Slade3200]

Which hate mob was the lone gunman a part of?

That's just it, he apparently wasn't part of any of the "groups" there, he was a loner.

Nobody was calling on Dems to condemn lone gunman because it's obviously condemnable

What pure 100% left wing bullshit that is...

There was a Nazi/KKK mob that both sides were called on to condemn for very obvious reasons

Why? They were exercising a First Amendment right. The statue was coming down regardless. The problem is that the taxpayer is funding a lot of do-nothing left wing activists who have nothing to do except show up to such events to provoke trouble, which is exactly what happened. If your side of taxpayer funded bigots doesn't show up and start tossing shit at the KKK, nothing happens there.

I can't believe that I need to explain this to you

Let me explain a few things to you, bigot. Everyone in the US has a First Amendment right. You do not decide who does and who does not. Your side is not allowed to start violence to interfere with First Amendment right, yet here you are cheering on what Antifa did and trying to blame it all on one loner....

What pure 100% left wing bullshit that is...

If you are going to call something bullshit then explain why, otherwise your statement is meaningless

Why? They were exercising a First Amendment right. The statue was coming down regardless.

Did you watch the vice news story that followed the leader of the Nazi group. They were not there to protest the statue. They came armed to the teeth to provoke and voice the agenda of their group. Calling for the eradication of Jews has nothing to do with statues. Who are you trying to fool by painting these clowns as innocent protestors?

Let me explain a few things to you, bigot. Everyone in the US has a First Amendment right. You do not decide who does and who does not. Your side is not allowed to start violence to interfere with First Amendment right, yet here you are cheering on what Antifa did and trying to blame it all on one loner....

Yet again you prove that you are ignorant and full of shit, I've spoken out against ANTIFA and in promotion of free speech. I even posted a thread that actually stood up for the Nazi/KKK right to free speech. You are fucking clueless and dead set on keeping these close minded partisan squabbles on the forefront of your discussions. Grow up.

 

[LaDexter]

They were not there to protest the statue

No, they were there to protest the removal of the statue, retard.

They came armed to the teeth

because they correctly anticipated that your army of taxpayer funded bigots would be there to attack them, and they were right.

Calling for the eradication of Jews

There you go again, making shit up to fit your agenda.

If you aren't criticizing the House GOP baseball shooter, you endorse what he did, you love him, you worship him, and every Dem like you is him...

 

[Wry Catcher]

"Not hate speech" examples from leftists

- right wing nut job
- Orange Clown
- anti-science
- gun nuts

True, but the right wing does include gun nuts (those opposed to any and all gun control), those who believe the anti-science who are fooled to believe our air, soil and water are not polluted by humanity and effect our climate, and who can argue that Trump is not clownish and orange?

But all of this ^^^ is tame, when compared to those defended by Trump who march with torches and recite in unisome, "Blood and Soil" and "Jews will not replace us".