“Avoid Violence” – Liberals’ New Phony Excuse

[Auld Phart]

Especially in the Charlottesville turmoil, it has become routine for liberal city fathers to not permit marches, rallies protests, or other forms of conservative free speech. Alleged fear of violence is being used as the excuse. Nobody (other tahl leftist lunatics) wants violence, especially deaths like Heather Myers, but we all (and our 1st amendment right) is being attacked.

Conservatives, (both rational and radical), are being denied access to public speaking events. Recently, the University of California at Berkeley canceled conservative commentator Ann Coulter’s April 27 speech, amid threats of violence. In February, UC Berkeley also canceled a campus event featuring conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, after protesters threw rocks, broke windows, and set fires outside the school’s student union building to protest his appearance.

Some liberals have openly lent support to this speech stifling. Richard Cohen of Southern Poverty Law Center said that students and universities “should not give racists an audience.” That within the context of his definition of “racists”.

In other eyebrow raising events, Michael Savage has been banned from an entire, very liberal country (England). And in San Francisco, the pro-Trump group Patriot Prayer canceled the “Freedom Rally,” they had planned, due to excpected violence from counterprotesters, and a likely lack of police protection (FOR THEM). Organizers of the “Freedom Rally,” blamed the cancellation of their event on public officials, who they say have falsely portrayed them as violent right-wing extremists intent on bringing hate to San Francisco. Speaking with reporters Saturday afternoon, Joey Gibson, founder of Patriot Prayer, also blamed “antifa,” referring to anti-fascist groups, and BAMN, or By Any Means Necessary, a left-wing group. He said the groups followed them throughout the day and kept them from holding events.

But is it really violence that these pious politicians are worried about ? Or is it the truth they fear ? >> …..and that conservatives could deprogram millions of brainwashed and wrongheaded people ?

There is really no reason to fear violence in the street, on college campuses, or anywhere else. Whatever troublemaker loons begin to cause can be controlled and stopped quickly and effectively, by police, private security, state police, and National Guard if necessary. At worst, federal troops can stop civil disturbances, but rarely would that be necessary.

The only reason violence has been occurring in US streets (Chicago, San Jose, Ferguson, Baltimore, New York, Charlottesville) is because Democrat mayors have been stopping their police from taking action . As in these cities, in Tampa, FL, protestors blocked traffic in a downtown street for about 2 hours. Police made no arrests. Took no action. Why ? Democrat mayor in political sympathy with the traffic blockers (AKA “terrorists”), could be the only reason. No way, this was the decision of police, on their own. It is politics gone wild (and crazy) that is responsible for violence BEING PERMITTED, and coming from mayors’ offices.

Simple solution ? Don’t permit violence. Crack down on it, and hard. When the leftist, anarchist nuts know they will be arrested, and cannot stop free speech of conservatives (or anyone), their whole regimen will cease.

They only show up and cause violence (in cities with Democrat mayors) when they know that mayor will have police stand down, and allow them to block traffic, attack protesters, vandalize monuments or other public items, shout down speakers, etc.

Threat of violence ? Bull! Don’t you believe that. That is a red herring. Violence can easily be stopped (or prevented entirely) as long as there is a WILL to stop it. America’s problem right now is rogue mayors who allow it, by handcuffing their own police, and occasionally Democrat governors (ex. Jay Nixon - Missouri), who called out the National Guard, in response to the Ferguson rioting, and then moved them far away from the violence/rioting.

Pro-Trump group cancels San Francisco rally as hundreds of counterprotesters march on the streets

College students testify: Free speech under assault on campuses

Conservative speech is hate speech! It's really that simple.

The Supreme Court (ruled 5-4) in Morse v. Frederick, 551 U.S. 393 (2007) that:

The 1st A. does not prevent educators from suppressing, at or across the street from a school-supervised event, student speech that is reasonably viewed as promoting illegal drug use.

It does not take a genius to see the precedent set, which allows public officials to suppress hate speech which even a deplorable knows is incendiary and likely to cause violence in a public forum.

Doesn't cover 'hate' speech, sorry.

Morse v. Frederick - Wikipedia

 

[jc456]

ANTIFA are violent anarchists, they don't represent liberals democrats conservatives or republicans.

There is 100% partisan hypocrisy on this issue.

Every leftist who goes batty, like the "lousy shot in the ballpark," never represents all Dems

Any non-leftist who does represents every single non-Dem on the planet


.... according to Dems, CNN and the rest...

Not true at all. You're gonna have to do better than empty statements if you want to make a compelling point.

he's fking spot on. try again.

 

[whitehall]

Democrats lost their way a decade ago and now the leaderless agendaless mob depends on Alinsky for direction.

 

[jc456]

Especially in the Charlottesville turmoil, it has become routine for liberal city fathers to not permit marches, rallies protests, or other forms of conservative free speech. Alleged fear of violence is being used as the excuse. Nobody (other tahl leftist lunatics) wants violence, especially deaths like Heather Myers, but we all (and our 1st amendment right) is being attacked.

Conservatives, (both rational and radical), are being denied access to public speaking events. Recently, the University of California at Berkeley canceled conservative commentator Ann Coulter’s April 27 speech, amid threats of violence. In February, UC Berkeley also canceled a campus event featuring conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, after protesters threw rocks, broke windows, and set fires outside the school’s student union building to protest his appearance.

Some liberals have openly lent support to this speech stifling. Richard Cohen of Southern Poverty Law Center said that students and universities “should not give racists an audience.” That within the context of his definition of “racists”.

In other eyebrow raising events, Michael Savage has been banned from an entire, very liberal country (England). And in San Francisco, the pro-Trump group Patriot Prayer canceled the “Freedom Rally,” they had planned, due to excpected violence from counterprotesters, and a likely lack of police protection (FOR THEM). Organizers of the “Freedom Rally,” blamed the cancellation of their event on public officials, who they say have falsely portrayed them as violent right-wing extremists intent on bringing hate to San Francisco. Speaking with reporters Saturday afternoon, Joey Gibson, founder of Patriot Prayer, also blamed “antifa,” referring to anti-fascist groups, and BAMN, or By Any Means Necessary, a left-wing group. He said the groups followed them throughout the day and kept them from holding events.

But is it really violence that these pious politicians are worried about ? Or is it the truth they fear ? >> …..and that conservatives could deprogram millions of brainwashed and wrongheaded people ?

There is really no reason to fear violence in the street, on college campuses, or anywhere else. Whatever troublemaker loons begin to cause can be controlled and stopped quickly and effectively, by police, private security, state police, and National Guard if necessary. At worst, federal troops can stop civil disturbances, but rarely would that be necessary.

The only reason violence has been occurring in US streets (Chicago, San Jose, Ferguson, Baltimore, New York, Charlottesville) is because Democrat mayors have been stopping their police from taking action . As in these cities, in Tampa, FL, protestors blocked traffic in a downtown street for about 2 hours. Police made no arrests. Took no action. Why ? Democrat mayor in political sympathy with the traffic blockers (AKA “terrorists”), could be the only reason. No way, this was the decision of police, on their own. It is politics gone wild (and crazy) that is responsible for violence BEING PERMITTED, and coming from mayors’ offices.

Simple solution ? Don’t permit violence. Crack down on it, and hard. When the leftist, anarchist nuts know they will be arrested, and cannot stop free speech of conservatives (or anyone), their whole regimen will cease.

They only show up and cause violence (in cities with Democrat mayors) when they know that mayor will have police stand down, and allow them to block traffic, attack protesters, vandalize monuments or other public items, shout down speakers, etc.

Threat of violence ? Bull! Don’t you believe that. That is a red herring. Violence can easily be stopped (or prevented entirely) as long as there is a WILL to stop it. America’s problem right now is rogue mayors who allow it, by handcuffing their own police, and occasionally Democrat governors (ex. Jay Nixon - Missouri), who called out the National Guard, in response to the Ferguson rioting, and then moved them far away from the violence/rioting.

Pro-Trump group cancels San Francisco rally as hundreds of counterprotesters march on the streets

College students testify: Free speech under assault on campuses

Conservative speech is hate speech! It's really that simple.

The Supreme Court (ruled 5-4) in Morse v. Frederick, 551 U.S. 393 (2007) that:

The 1st A. does not prevent educators from suppressing, at or across the street from a school-supervised event, student speech that is reasonably viewed as promoting illegal drug use.

It does not take a genius to see the precedent set, which allows public officials to suppress hate speech which even a deplorable knows is incendiary and likely to cause violence in a public forum.

Doesn't cover 'hate' speech, sorry.

Morse v. Frederick - Wikipedia

they are too righteous.

 

[jc456]

Democrats lost their way a decade ago and now the leaderless agendaless mob depends on Alinsky for direction.

 

[Slade3200]

Especially in the Charlottesville turmoil, it has become routine for liberal city fathers to not permit marches, rallies protests, or other forms of conservative free speech. Alleged fear of violence is being used as the excuse. Nobody (other tahl leftist lunatics) wants violence, especially deaths like Heather Myers, but we all (and our 1st amendment right) is being attacked.

Conservatives, (both rational and radical), are being denied access to public speaking events. Recently, the University of California at Berkeley canceled conservative commentator Ann Coulter’s April 27 speech, amid threats of violence. In February, UC Berkeley also canceled a campus event featuring conservative Milo Yiannopoulos, after protesters threw rocks, broke windows, and set fires outside the school’s student union building to protest his appearance.

Some liberals have openly lent support to this speech stifling. Richard Cohen of Southern Poverty Law Center said that students and universities “should not give racists an audience.” That within the context of his definition of “racists”.

In other eyebrow raising events, Michael Savage has been banned from an entire, very liberal country (England). And in San Francisco, the pro-Trump group Patriot Prayer canceled the “Freedom Rally,” they had planned, due to excpected violence from counterprotesters, and a likely lack of police protection (FOR THEM). Organizers of the “Freedom Rally,” blamed the cancellation of their event on public officials, who they say have falsely portrayed them as violent right-wing extremists intent on bringing hate to San Francisco. Speaking with reporters Saturday afternoon, Joey Gibson, founder of Patriot Prayer, also blamed “antifa,” referring to anti-fascist groups, and BAMN, or By Any Means Necessary, a left-wing group. He said the groups followed them throughout the day and kept them from holding events.

But is it really violence that these pious politicians are worried about ? Or is it the truth they fear ? >> …..and that conservatives could deprogram millions of brainwashed and wrongheaded people ?

There is really no reason to fear violence in the street, on college campuses, or anywhere else. Whatever troublemaker loons begin to cause can be controlled and stopped quickly and effectively, by police, private security, state police, and National Guard if necessary. At worst, federal troops can stop civil disturbances, but rarely would that be necessary.

The only reason violence has been occurring in US streets (Chicago, San Jose, Ferguson, Baltimore, New York, Charlottesville) is because Democrat mayors have been stopping their police from taking action . As in these cities, in Tampa, FL, protestors blocked traffic in a downtown street for about 2 hours. Police made no arrests. Took no action. Why ? Democrat mayor in political sympathy with the traffic blockers (AKA “terrorists”), could be the only reason. No way, this was the decision of police, on their own. It is politics gone wild (and crazy) that is responsible for violence BEING PERMITTED, and coming from mayors’ offices.

Simple solution ? Don’t permit violence. Crack down on it, and hard. When the leftist, anarchist nuts know they will be arrested, and cannot stop free speech of conservatives (or anyone), their whole regimen will cease.

They only show up and cause violence (in cities with Democrat mayors) when they know that mayor will have police stand down, and allow them to block traffic, attack protesters, vandalize monuments or other public items, shout down speakers, etc.

Threat of violence ? Bull! Don’t you believe that. That is a red herring. Violence can easily be stopped (or prevented entirely) as long as there is a WILL to stop it. America’s problem right now is rogue mayors who allow it, by handcuffing their own police, and occasionally Democrat governors (ex. Jay Nixon - Missouri), who called out the National Guard, in response to the Ferguson rioting, and then moved them far away from the violence/rioting.

Pro-Trump group cancels San Francisco rally as hundreds of counterprotesters march on the streets

College students testify: Free speech under assault on campuses

yep it seems the reward goes to the violent antifa's how white of them. That only promotes violence btw. The way to remove the violence is to let the cops do their jobs and take these whackamoles out. You'll see that stop immediately. It's the equivalent of saying taking guns out of the hands of innocent people to allow the villain access and commit violence. It is only the stupid of the left. amazing.

ANTIFA are violent anarchists, they don't represent liberals democrats conservatives or republicans.

sure they do, you won't condemn them you are one of them. I've asked you repeatedly in other threads and you still won't. so you are one.

I did many times. I had no clue who they were so I condemned all members that were acting out in violence, I condemned that many times. If they had a good hearted anti-racism faction that was doing good work in the community then I'd support those values so I left that part open. It doesn't appear that they have that side to their group, or at least I haven't seen it, so if that's the case then I can easily condem the group. They are no good and cause more problems than good with their hypocritical violence. Arrest them

nope you never did. condemning members isn't condemning the group. hey, no skin off my back you wish to be a member and not condemn them. again, it's too late, if you couldn't tell by Charlottesville and campus universities who this group was, then you are part of them blinded.

Did you not just read what I just wrote? Take two... but read slower this time. Work on comprehension and let me know if you get confused.

 

[LaDexter]

Not true at all. You're gonna have to do better than empty statements if you want to make a compelling point.

LOL!!!


When the leftist shot up the GOP House baseball team, nobody was saying every single Dem had to apologize over and over and that shooter represented all Dems.

When a lone wolf in Charlottesville, assuming you believe it was not a hoax, drives a vehicle through a crowd and kills one, you fucked in the head hypocrites scream over and over and over that guy is exhibit A of all non-Dems and every non-Dem needs to apologize over and over and over and condemn anyone who doesn't want to pay to have the statue of Lee taken down...

 

[Slade3200]

ANTIFA are violent anarchists, they don't represent liberals democrats conservatives or republicans.

There is 100% partisan hypocrisy on this issue.

Every leftist who goes batty, like the "lousy shot in the ballpark," never represents all Dems

Any non-leftist who does represents every single non-Dem on the planet


.... according to Dems, CNN and the rest...

Not true at all. You're gonna have to do better than empty statements if you want to make a compelling point.

he's fking spot on. try again.

Another empty statement with no explanation, details, or examples.... what's with you people?

 

[g5000]

ANTIFA are violent anarchists, they don't represent liberals democrats conservatives or republicans.

There is 100% partisan hypocrisy on this issue.

Every leftist who goes batty, like the "lousy shot in the ballpark," never represents all Dems

Any non-leftist who does represents every single non-Dem on the planet


.... according to Dems, CNN and the rest...

Not true at all. You're gonna have to do better than empty statements if you want to make a compelling point.

he's fking spot on. try again.

It's only a half truth.

The fact is, both sides demonize the other. How many Democrats Acting Badly topics have you pseudocons started in a pathetic attempt to generalize all democrats as evildoers out to destroy America?

 

[LaDexter]

"hate speech" = disagreeing with Democrats

 

[Slade3200]

Not true at all. You're gonna have to do better than empty statements if you want to make a compelling point.

LOL!!!


When the leftist shot up the GOP House baseball team, nobody was saying every single Dem had to apologize over and over and that shooter represented all Dems.

When a lone wolf in Charlottesville, assuming you believe it was not a hoax, drives a vehicle through a crowd and kills one, you fucked in the head hypocrites scream over and over and over that guy is exhibit A of all non-Dems and every non-Dem needs to apologize over and over and over and condemn anyone who doesn't want to pay to have the statue of Lee taken down...

Are you high? You are comparing a lone gunman to a Nazi/KKK rally. One represents a sick man and the other represents a movement, a mob, a group that promotes hate, and one of their members snapped and took it too far. Their movement should absolutely be condemned as it will only lead to more violence. And nowhere did I imply that the Nazis represent everybody on the right. If you really don't understand the difference between these situations then you really are clueless.

 

[jc456]

yep it seems the reward goes to the violent antifa's how white of them. That only promotes violence btw. The way to remove the violence is to let the cops do their jobs and take these whackamoles out. You'll see that stop immediately. It's the equivalent of saying taking guns out of the hands of innocent people to allow the villain access and commit violence. It is only the stupid of the left. amazing.

ANTIFA are violent anarchists, they don't represent liberals democrats conservatives or republicans.

sure they do, you won't condemn them you are one of them. I've asked you repeatedly in other threads and you still won't. so you are one.

I did many times. I had no clue who they were so I condemned all members that were acting out in violence, I condemned that many times. If they had a good hearted anti-racism faction that was doing good work in the community then I'd support those values so I left that part open. It doesn't appear that they have that side to their group, or at least I haven't seen it, so if that's the case then I can easily condem the group. They are no good and cause more problems than good with their hypocritical violence. Arrest them

nope you never did. condemning members isn't condemning the group. hey, no skin off my back you wish to be a member and not condemn them. again, it's too late, if you couldn't tell by Charlottesville and campus universities who this group was, then you are part of them blinded.

Did you not just read what I just wrote? Take two... but read slower this time. Work on comprehension and let me know if you get confused.

I have no issues. I know you won't condemn antifa. you said so many times. You even went as far as saying there were good people in them. wow. hate speech violent bullies who wish to tear our country apart and you can't condemn them. wow.

 

[jc456]

"hate speech" = disagreeing with Democrats

^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And they double down daily.

 

[jc456]

Not true at all. You're gonna have to do better than empty statements if you want to make a compelling point.

LOL!!!


When the leftist shot up the GOP House baseball team, nobody was saying every single Dem had to apologize over and over and that shooter represented all Dems.

When a lone wolf in Charlottesville, assuming you believe it was not a hoax, drives a vehicle through a crowd and kills one, you fucked in the head hypocrites scream over and over and over that guy is exhibit A of all non-Dems and every non-Dem needs to apologize over and over and over and condemn anyone who doesn't want to pay to have the statue of Lee taken down...

Are you high? You are comparing a lone gunman to a Nazi/KKK rally. One represents a sick man and the other represents a movement, a mob, a group that promotes hate, and one of their members snapped and took it too far. Their movement should absolutely be condemned as it will only lead to more violence. And nowhere did I imply that the Nazis represent everybody on the right. If you really don't understand the difference between these situations then you really are clueless.

again there you go defining something that wasn't. funny how you libs feel you get to do that. nice work. come back when you really want to have a serious discussion. cause sweetheart, that is pure bullshit.

 

[Slade3200]

ANTIFA are violent anarchists, they don't represent liberals democrats conservatives or republicans.

sure they do, you won't condemn them you are one of them. I've asked you repeatedly in other threads and you still won't. so you are one.

I did many times. I had no clue who they were so I condemned all members that were acting out in violence, I condemned that many times. If they had a good hearted anti-racism faction that was doing good work in the community then I'd support those values so I left that part open. It doesn't appear that they have that side to their group, or at least I haven't seen it, so if that's the case then I can easily condem the group. They are no good and cause more problems than good with their hypocritical violence. Arrest them

nope you never did. condemning members isn't condemning the group. hey, no skin off my back you wish to be a member and not condemn them. again, it's too late, if you couldn't tell by Charlottesville and campus universities who this group was, then you are part of them blinded.

Did you not just read what I just wrote? Take two... but read slower this time. Work on comprehension and let me know if you get confused.

I have no issues. I know you won't condemn antifa. you said so many times. You even went as far as saying there were good people in them. wow. hate speech violent bullies who wish to tear our country apart and you can't condemn them. wow.

You obviously can't read or comprehend so I don't know what there is to argue about, I posted my position clearly but you see what you want to see and then lie about it. Bravo man, you get the douche award for the day!

 

[Wry Catcher]

Conservative speech is hate speech! It's really that simple.

Get a grip, retard.

A little hyperbole goes a long way. Get a grip yourself, this is the game and how it's played.

 

[g5000]

Conservative speech is hate speech! It's really that simple.

Get a grip, retard.

A little hyperbole goes a long way. Get a grip yourself, this is the game and how its played.

You're actually proving the OP's point.

 

[LaDexter]

You are comparing a lone gunman to a Nazi/KKK rally

No, it is an apples to apples comp. One rouge Lee statue supporter did something. The rest did not. You like to lump everyone together. That's not what happened. Essentially, you lie and claim some sort of superiority of cause/ideology.

That guy who shot up the House GOP baseball team was really no different than the lone wolf at the Lee statue rally. You just won't accept that, because you are some sort of sick in the head supremacist yourself...

 

[Wry Catcher]

Conservative speech is hate speech! It's really that simple.

Get a grip, retard.

A little hyperbole goes a long way. Get a grip yourself, this is the game and how its played.

You're actually proving the OP's point.

How? Explain.

 

[Slade3200]

You are comparing a lone gunman to a Nazi/KKK rally

No, it is an apples to apples comp. One rouge Lee statue supporter did something. The rest did not. You like to lump everyone together. That's not what happened. Essentially, you lie and claim some sort of superiority of cause/ideology.

That guy who shot up the House GOP baseball team was really no different than the lone wolf at the Lee statue rally. You just won't accept that, because you are some sort of sick in the head supremacist yourself...

Which hate mob was the lone gunman a part of? Nobody was calling on Dems to condemn lone gunman because it's obviously condemnable. Just as nobody was calling on Republicans to condemn people who run down crowds in their car. There was a Nazi/KKK mob that both sides were called on to condemn for very obvious reasons. I can't believe that I need to explain this to you. Do seriously not understand or are you just trying to be a pain?