Atheism; An Intellectual Dead End

[danielpalos]

disobeying Ten simple Commandments is an intellectual dead end, for theists.

No. It is a failure to control urges. That is basic, not intellectual. And it isn't a dead end, it is just a failure to control an urge.

that is a social failure; not a capital failure.

No, it is an individual failure.

socialism involves individuals. capitalism involves individuals, and voluntary social transaction that may involve, mutually beneficial trade.

You would have to have an external locus of control to believe that.

not really; just self-evident truths.

 

[ding]

No. It is a failure to control urges. That is basic, not intellectual. And it isn't a dead end, it is just a failure to control an urge.

that is a social failure; not a capital failure.

No, it is an individual failure.

socialism involves individuals. capitalism involves individuals, and voluntary social transaction that may involve, mutually beneficial trade.

You would have to have an external locus of control to believe that.

not really; just self-evident truths.

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

 

[danielpalos]

that is a social failure; not a capital failure.

No, it is an individual failure.

socialism involves individuals. capitalism involves individuals, and voluntary social transaction that may involve, mutually beneficial trade.

You would have to have an external locus of control to believe that.

not really; just self-evident truths.

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

is that why we have social justice and not moral justice?

 

[sealybobo]

that is a social failure; not a capital failure.

No, it is an individual failure.

socialism involves individuals. capitalism involves individuals, and voluntary social transaction that may involve, mutually beneficial trade.

You would have to have an external locus of control to believe that.

not really; just self-evident truths.

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

I saw a dead body tonight. My neighbor most likely killed himself but something isn't right. There were guys over at his house that no one knows who they are. It turns out he was secretly gay. He may have tried to commit suicide about a year ago. If that's true he probably killed himself. Maybe feeling guilty and dirty after they left. And he just met this cute girl at work and his life was going well. I know more details than I should because my buddy is the detective in my town so he got called in. He said the angle of the bullet doesn't seem right so they are doing an autopsy and they treated it like a crime scene.

His girlfriend was worried because they were supposed to hang out at 1pm but it was 5pm and you could see in his doorwall his phone, shoes, lights were on, car in its spot.

I knew something was wrong. I volunteered to go in. I was expecting to see od'd not his brains all over the wall. No one heard a shot last night.

I went over to borrow milk last night late after poker and saw him hanging with these guys. Don't know if they had anything to do with it. Luckily my cop friend found a text saying I'm here so hopefully they can track them down. What if they murdered him? They might think I can identify them but I was drunk I don't remember what they looked like. Wish I would have paid closer attention.

I can't believe the kid did that to himself. He was a bit of an oddball.

Loved his guns and he was a huge trump fan. He was happy about inauguration this just doesn't make sense but no one knows what other people are really thinking.

What a scene. I knew something was wrong but did not expect to see that.

 

[ding]

No, it is an individual failure.

socialism involves individuals. capitalism involves individuals, and voluntary social transaction that may involve, mutually beneficial trade.

You would have to have an external locus of control to believe that.

not really; just self-evident truths.

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

is that why we have social justice and not moral justice?

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

 

[danielpalos]

socialism involves individuals. capitalism involves individuals, and voluntary social transaction that may involve, mutually beneficial trade.

You would have to have an external locus of control to believe that.

not really; just self-evident truths.

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

is that why we have social justice and not moral justice?

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

Only if you consider, Faithfully executing our own laws simply for the sake of public morals, to be moral justice and not social justice.

 

[BreezeWood]

socialism involves individuals. capitalism involves individuals, and voluntary social transaction that may involve, mutually beneficial trade.

You would have to have an external locus of control to believe that.

not really; just self-evident truths.

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

is that why we have social justice and not moral justice?

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

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No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

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I only know that what was wasn't as you say. I know this because I know what you just accused me of is unfounded and untrue.

No. It is you who is unenlightened when you place false words I did not speak in my mouth. It is you who is unenlightened that when called out for it, dismiss it and then try to fob it off on me as if it were my fault. It is you who is unenlightened when you have no faith and attack the faith of others.

you are a work of ad hominen beyond reproach bing, "Appealing to the emotions rather than to logic or reason" ... your speaking of moral justice is a joke.

 

[sealybobo]

You would have to have an external locus of control to believe that.

not really; just self-evident truths.

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

is that why we have social justice and not moral justice?

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

.

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

...........

I only know that what was wasn't as you say. I know this because I know what you just accused me of is unfounded and untrue.

No. It is you who is unenlightened when you place false words I did not speak in my mouth. It is you who is unenlightened that when called out for it, dismiss it and then try to fob it off on me as if it were my fault. It is you who is unenlightened when you have no faith and attack the faith of others.

you are a work of ad hominen beyond reproach bing, "Appealing to the emotions rather than to logic or reason" ... your speaking of moral justice is a joke.

I found one positive reason for believing in God. People should be told they'll go to hell if they kill themselves. It's a deterrent.

But now we are finding out the guy who killed himself was struggling with his sexuality. Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

 

[BreezeWood]

not really; just self-evident truths.

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

is that why we have social justice and not moral justice?

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

.

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

...........

I only know that what was wasn't as you say. I know this because I know what you just accused me of is unfounded and untrue.

No. It is you who is unenlightened when you place false words I did not speak in my mouth. It is you who is unenlightened that when called out for it, dismiss it and then try to fob it off on me as if it were my fault. It is you who is unenlightened when you have no faith and attack the faith of others.

you are a work of ad hominen beyond reproach bing, "Appealing to the emotions rather than to logic or reason" ... your speaking of moral justice is a joke.

I found one positive reason for believing in God. People should be told they'll go to hell if they kill themselves. It's a deterrent.

But now we are finding out the guy who killed himself was struggling with his sexuality. Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

.

Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

not the 1st century ... something about the 4th, not that it is not questionable but stepping beyond the bounds as being a legitimate way of life by means of a book is.

 

[sealybobo]

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

is that why we have social justice and not moral justice?

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

.

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

...........

I only know that what was wasn't as you say. I know this because I know what you just accused me of is unfounded and untrue.

No. It is you who is unenlightened when you place false words I did not speak in my mouth. It is you who is unenlightened that when called out for it, dismiss it and then try to fob it off on me as if it were my fault. It is you who is unenlightened when you have no faith and attack the faith of others.

you are a work of ad hominen beyond reproach bing, "Appealing to the emotions rather than to logic or reason" ... your speaking of moral justice is a joke.

I found one positive reason for believing in God. People should be told they'll go to hell if they kill themselves. It's a deterrent.

But now we are finding out the guy who killed himself was struggling with his sexuality. Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

.

Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

not the 1st century ... something about the 4th, not that it is not questionable but stepping beyond the bounds as being a legitimate way of life by means of a book is.

Point is belief in God can be used to stop people from killing themselves but then people kill themselves because God said they are flawed.

Great example of how religion can be used for right or wrong.

Nothing wrong if the man likes the dong

 

[BreezeWood]

is that why we have social justice and not moral justice?

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

.

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

...........

I only know that what was wasn't as you say. I know this because I know what you just accused me of is unfounded and untrue.

No. It is you who is unenlightened when you place false words I did not speak in my mouth. It is you who is unenlightened that when called out for it, dismiss it and then try to fob it off on me as if it were my fault. It is you who is unenlightened when you have no faith and attack the faith of others.

you are a work of ad hominen beyond reproach bing, "Appealing to the emotions rather than to logic or reason" ... your speaking of moral justice is a joke.

I found one positive reason for believing in God. People should be told they'll go to hell if they kill themselves. It's a deterrent.

But now we are finding out the guy who killed himself was struggling with his sexuality. Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

.

Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

not the 1st century ... something about the 4th, not that it is not questionable but stepping beyond the bounds as being a legitimate way of life by means of a book is.

Point is belief in God can be used to stop people from killing themselves but then people kill themselves because God said they are flawed.

Great example of how religion can be used for right or wrong.

Nothing wrong if the man likes the dong

.

Point is belief in God can be used to stop people from killing themselves but then people kill themselves because God said they are flawed.

I agree about religion, there are differences so were they in need for support they could find the one for that reason and not so for those that use their religion as a cudgel against others ... not that were he an atheist could not have worked either. why there is an Almighty without the religion is much better than the religion in the long run.

 

[WillReadmore]

No, it is an individual failure.

socialism involves individuals. capitalism involves individuals, and voluntary social transaction that may involve, mutually beneficial trade.

You would have to have an external locus of control to believe that.

not really; just self-evident truths.

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

is that why we have social justice and not moral justice?

Do you think there should be a separate system for establishing and enforcing morality?

Our legislature, police and courts seem to be too constrained.

 

[ding]

No, it is an individual failure.

socialism involves individuals. capitalism involves individuals, and voluntary social transaction that may involve, mutually beneficial trade.

You would have to have an external locus of control to believe that.

not really; just self-evident truths.

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

I saw a dead body tonight. My neighbor most likely killed himself but something isn't right. There were guys over at his house that no one knows who they are. It turns out he was secretly gay. He may have tried to commit suicide about a year ago. If that's true he probably killed himself. Maybe feeling guilty and dirty after they left. And he just met this cute girl at work and his life was going well. I know more details than I should because my buddy is the detective in my town so he got called in. He said the angle of the bullet doesn't seem right so they are doing an autopsy and they treated it like a crime scene.

His girlfriend was worried because they were supposed to hang out at 1pm but it was 5pm and you could see in his doorwall his phone, shoes, lights were on, car in its spot.

I knew something was wrong. I volunteered to go in. I was expecting to see od'd not his brains all over the wall. No one heard a shot last night.

I went over to borrow milk last night late after poker and saw him hanging with these guys. Don't know if they had anything to do with it. Luckily my cop friend found a text saying I'm here so hopefully they can track them down. What if they murdered him? They might think I can identify them but I was drunk I don't remember what they looked like. Wish I would have paid closer attention.

I can't believe the kid did that to himself. He was a bit of an oddball.

Loved his guns and he was a huge trump fan. He was happy about inauguration this just doesn't make sense but no one knows what other people are really thinking.

What a scene. I knew something was wrong but did not expect to see that.

How'd he die?

 

[ding]

You would have to have an external locus of control to believe that.

not really; just self-evident truths.

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

is that why we have social justice and not moral justice?

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

Only if you consider, Faithfully executing our own laws simply for the sake of public morals, to be moral justice and not social justice.

That wasn't what I was talking about, but they used to be.

 

[ding]

You would have to have an external locus of control to believe that.

not really; just self-evident truths.

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

is that why we have social justice and not moral justice?

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

.

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

...........

I only know that what was wasn't as you say. I know this because I know what you just accused me of is unfounded and untrue.

No. It is you who is unenlightened when you place false words I did not speak in my mouth. It is you who is unenlightened that when called out for it, dismiss it and then try to fob it off on me as if it were my fault. It is you who is unenlightened when you have no faith and attack the faith of others.

you are a work of ad hominen beyond reproach bing, "Appealing to the emotions rather than to logic or reason" ... your speaking of moral justice is a joke.

I don't claim any moral high ground but that shouldn't dissuade me for calling you out. You put false words into my mouth, when I called it out you dismissed it then traied to blame me for it and you have no faith and you attack the faith of others.

 

[ding]

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

.

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

...........

I only know that what was wasn't as you say. I know this because I know what you just accused me of is unfounded and untrue.

No. It is you who is unenlightened when you place false words I did not speak in my mouth. It is you who is unenlightened that when called out for it, dismiss it and then try to fob it off on me as if it were my fault. It is you who is unenlightened when you have no faith and attack the faith of others.

you are a work of ad hominen beyond reproach bing, "Appealing to the emotions rather than to logic or reason" ... your speaking of moral justice is a joke.

I found one positive reason for believing in God. People should be told they'll go to hell if they kill themselves. It's a deterrent.

But now we are finding out the guy who killed himself was struggling with his sexuality. Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

.

Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

not the 1st century ... something about the 4th, not that it is not questionable but stepping beyond the bounds as being a legitimate way of life by means of a book is.

Point is belief in God can be used to stop people from killing themselves but then people kill themselves because God said they are flawed.

Great example of how religion can be used for right or wrong.

Nothing wrong if the man likes the dong

.

Point is belief in God can be used to stop people from killing themselves but then people kill themselves because God said they are flawed.

I agree about religion, there are differences so were they in need for support they could find the one for that reason and not so for those that use their religion as a cudgel against others ... not that were he an atheist could not have worked either. why there is an Almighty without the religion is much better than the religion in the long run.

That's called anarchy.

 

[ding]

not really; just self-evident truths.

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

is that why we have social justice and not moral justice?

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

.

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

...........

I only know that what was wasn't as you say. I know this because I know what you just accused me of is unfounded and untrue.

No. It is you who is unenlightened when you place false words I did not speak in my mouth. It is you who is unenlightened that when called out for it, dismiss it and then try to fob it off on me as if it were my fault. It is you who is unenlightened when you have no faith and attack the faith of others.

you are a work of ad hominen beyond reproach bing, "Appealing to the emotions rather than to logic or reason" ... your speaking of moral justice is a joke.

I found one positive reason for believing in God. People should be told they'll go to hell if they kill themselves. It's a deterrent.

But now we are finding out the guy who killed himself was struggling with his sexuality. Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

I'm starting to smell bullshit.

 

[BreezeWood]

not really; just self-evident truths.

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

is that why we have social justice and not moral justice?

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

.

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

...........

I only know that what was wasn't as you say. I know this because I know what you just accused me of is unfounded and untrue.

No. It is you who is unenlightened when you place false words I did not speak in my mouth. It is you who is unenlightened that when called out for it, dismiss it and then try to fob it off on me as if it were my fault. It is you who is unenlightened when you have no faith and attack the faith of others.

you are a work of ad hominen beyond reproach bing, "Appealing to the emotions rather than to logic or reason" ... your speaking of moral justice is a joke.

I don't claim any moral high ground but that shouldn't dissuade me for calling you out. You put false words into my mouth, when I called it out you dismissed it then traied to blame me for it and you have no faith and you attack the faith of others.

.

I don't claim any moral high ground but that shouldn't dissuade me for calling you out. You put false words into my mouth, when I called it out you dismissed it then traied to blame me for it and you have no faith and you attack the faith of others.

that is you attacking my faith, the religion of the Almighty as I have had to remind you of more than a few times - this is the religion forum discussing your religion is fair game if you can't defend your version without attacking people that is your problem not mine.

 

[ding]

Like individuals are accountable for their own actions.

is that why we have social justice and not moral justice?

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

.

No, we have moral justice, you just don't understand it which is why you push for social justice.

...........

I only know that what was wasn't as you say. I know this because I know what you just accused me of is unfounded and untrue.

No. It is you who is unenlightened when you place false words I did not speak in my mouth. It is you who is unenlightened that when called out for it, dismiss it and then try to fob it off on me as if it were my fault. It is you who is unenlightened when you have no faith and attack the faith of others.

you are a work of ad hominen beyond reproach bing, "Appealing to the emotions rather than to logic or reason" ... your speaking of moral justice is a joke.

I don't claim any moral high ground but that shouldn't dissuade me for calling you out. You put false words into my mouth, when I called it out you dismissed it then traied to blame me for it and you have no faith and you attack the faith of others.

.

I don't claim any moral high ground but that shouldn't dissuade me for calling you out. You put false words into my mouth, when I called it out you dismissed it then traied to blame me for it and you have no faith and you attack the faith of others.

that is you attacking my faith, the religion of the Almighty as I have had to remind you of more than a few times - this is the religion forum discussing your religion is fair game if you can't defend your version without attacking people that is your problem not mine.

You don't have a religion, lol. What's the name of your religion? I can't attack what you don't have. You are just another fucking troll.

 

[BreezeWood]

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you are a work of ad hominen beyond reproach bing, "Appealing to the emotions rather than to logic or reason" ... your speaking of moral justice is a joke.

I found one positive reason for believing in God. People should be told they'll go to hell if they kill themselves. It's a deterrent.

But now we are finding out the guy who killed himself was struggling with his sexuality. Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

.

Who said God cares if you're gay? Who put that in the kids head?

not the 1st century ... something about the 4th, not that it is not questionable but stepping beyond the bounds as being a legitimate way of life by means of a book is.

Point is belief in God can be used to stop people from killing themselves but then people kill themselves because God said they are flawed.

Great example of how religion can be used for right or wrong.

Nothing wrong if the man likes the dong

.

Point is belief in God can be used to stop people from killing themselves but then people kill themselves because God said they are flawed.

I agree about religion, there are differences so were they in need for support they could find the one for that reason and not so for those that use their religion as a cudgel against others ... not that were he an atheist could not have worked either. why there is an Almighty without the religion is much better than the religion in the long run.

That's called anarchy.

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That's called anarchy.

seriously are you that afraid to allow someone to be a free Spirit and that would cause anarchy ... and you believe living by a prescripted unverified book is the only means to reach a fulfilled life, when history casts an entirely different and verified conclusion. is most of your day spent daydreaming by chance.