Are We Already A Three Party Nation?

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    midcan5 liberal / progressive

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    There are lots of arguments on why we need a third party candidate or even a third party. The reasons given are simply that the two party system is a groundwork for embedded interests and a third party would create more diversification. In other words a challenge to the status quo. Diversity may be a positive in your portfolio, but is it one in politics?

    I would argue it is not, and the tea party could be seen as an example of my assumption. The Tea Party grew out of the discontent over change in our 2008 presidential election, but its roots go back much farther. American discontent with their elected representatives has always been a part of the political scene and eventually most presidents lose their glow if events prove cumbersome. Only after they are gone, are they revived in history, and in the minds of the political revisionists.

    So who is this third party, are they made up solely of the Tea party or do the roots go deeper? David Deutsch in the 'Beginning of Infinity' outlines the complexity of sharing power with a third party. No longer is the winner, the winner, for now they must please a faction they may not even agree with, or even the voters do not agree with. Now the third party possesses a power not given to it by the majority of voters simply because they now control what the other parties can do. You see this today with the stagnation in the House of Representatives and the impact it has had on the nation.

    Afterthought: maybe we are now a four party nation, with the fourth party being the 24 by 7 news and blogosphere of each and every word someone says rightly or wrongly and then whether the words have wings to fly or broken wings that crash. Consider voters busy with life who pay little attention except this fourth party bangs away so hard, and so frequently, it creates candidates or non candidates? I'll leave the fourth party there for now.
     
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    Your idealistic viewpoint comes and goes every few years. Maybe you need to research the history of 3rd parties in American politics. Try reading this
    Third party presidential candidates

    Why did they all fail? Maybe because they didn't have the money of the two major parties? Riddle me this, why do the candidates with the most money win 96% of elections? The most "diverse" political option we have is "split-government" whereby the two parties need to compromise, or nothing happens. Either party rule has generally been a disaster.
     
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    No, we don't need one and no, we will not become a "three party country."

    That is all.
     
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    My point is we have one now.
     
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    We are a 2 party nation. Those that have and those that don't!
     
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    Our point is you're wrong.
     
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    The Tea Party is simple the Idiotic right wing of the GOP.
     
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    We've already got plenty of factions within both parties we have now. You've got the unions, environmentalists, pro-abortion, and so on for the dems. And of course the GOP has the TPers, the religious right, the NRA, etc. Don't know that it would make much difference if any one of them splintered off into their own separate political party, other than weakening the party they left. It is the great fear of the right that somebody like Palin or Paul would run as a 3rd party candidate and split the conservative vote, giving the election to Obama. That's precisely what happened in 1992 when Perot ran, he took enough votes from Bush41 to give Clinton the WH.
     
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    We are, in actuality, a 10 to 15 party nation. It's just that the people are too stupid to utilize the rest.
     
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