Are all "climate change" bets off, now that the earth has shifted on its axis?

[Midnight Marauder]

Or, is it because of man's activities that the planet's magnetic pole is on the move?

Can't WAIT to hear OldCrocks on this one!

Hey EnviroNazis: The planet has given you clucks the ultimate OUT to now just back out of your bullshit with grace. Will you take it?

 

[Midnight Marauder]

So now......
... are we going to start hearing about APS? (Anthropogenic Polar Shifts)?

What have we done wrong to cause this? I suppose too much iron has been extracted from the earth in the northern hemisphere and we need to ban (or at least severely limit) the use of steel by mankind. No more steel for autos, no more structural steel...

Most steel (from iron) is used by developed nations, so they are the ones most responsible for APS. I propose a new system of "Iron Credits" ...

 

[Oddball]

 

[uscitizen]

The Axis died with hitler.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

The Axis died with hitler.

We later had "The Axis of Evil" though!

 

[Old Rocks]

Hmmm.......

Magnetic Reversals

How often do reversals occur?
As a matter of geological record, the Earth's magnetic field has undergone numerous reversals of polarity. We can see this in the magnetic patterns found in volcanic rocks, especially those recovered from the ocean floors. In the last 10 million years, there have been, on average, 4 or 5 reversals per million years. At other times in Earth's history, for example during the Cretaceous era, there have been much longer periods when no reversals occurred. Reversals are not predictable and are certainly not periodic in nature. Hence we can only speak about the average reversal interval.

There seems to be absolutely no corelation between magnetic reversals and increases or decreases in biologic activety in the fossil record.

Any other idiocy on your mind, Midnight?

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Hmmm.......

Magnetic Reversals

How often do reversals occur?
As a matter of geological record, the Earth's magnetic field has undergone numerous reversals of polarity. We can see this in the magnetic patterns found in volcanic rocks, especially those recovered from the ocean floors. In the last 10 million years, there have been, on average, 4 or 5 reversals per million years. At other times in Earth's history, for example during the Cretaceous era, there have been much longer periods when no reversals occurred. Reversals are not predictable and are certainly not periodic in nature. Hence we can only speak about the average reversal interval.

There seems to be absolutely no corelation between magnetic reversals and increases or decreases in biologic activety in the fossil record.

Any other idiocy on your mind, Midnight?

But there IS a correlation on the CLIMATE! Research and read some more! And learn to spell!

You are such a hack idiot, really. I KNEW you couldn't resist this, and KNEW you would cut and paste some total nonsense!

YOU, OldCrocks are more predictable than the climate!

 

[Old Rocks]

Now Midnight, you are still the fool you have always been. No scientific backup for your yap-yap at all. Like the rest of the Conservatives here, science is an anthema to you.

Magnetic Reversals

That site is the British Geological Society. But then, you probably could not comprehend basic science in any case.

Just continue your mindless derision. It is all you are capable of.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

You fucking moron:

The earth’s magnetic field is an important key to life on the planet. It diverts most of that stream of charged particles produced by the sun known as solar winds. Also, changes in the earth’s magnetic field have been connected with climate changes. The drift of the magnetic north pole seem to have little impact upon life on the earth. Only sailors using their instruments of navigation or trekkers in the wilderness with compasses would have noticed the change for most of human history. Interestingly, two airports in Florida have modified the orientation of their runways to reflect the drift.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Hmmm.......

Magnetic Reversals

How often do reversals occur?
As a matter of geological record, the Earth's magnetic field has undergone numerous reversals of polarity. We can see this in the magnetic patterns found in volcanic rocks, especially those recovered from the ocean floors. In the last 10 million years, there have been, on average, 4 or 5 reversals per million years. At other times in Earth's history, for example during the Cretaceous era, there have been much longer periods when no reversals occurred. Reversals are not predictable and are certainly not periodic in nature. Hence we can only speak about the average reversal interval.

There seems to be absolutely no corelation between magnetic reversals and increases or decreases in biologic activety in the fossil record.

Any other idiocy on your mind, Midnight?

Your fucking link does not even try to address climate change relative to the poles, as you well know.

 

[Old Rocks]

You fucking moron:

The earth’s magnetic field is an important key to life on the planet. It diverts most of that stream of charged particles produced by the sun known as solar winds. Also, changes in the earth’s magnetic field have been connected with climate changes. The drift of the magnetic north pole seem to have little impact upon life on the earth. Only sailors using their instruments of navigation or trekkers in the wilderness with compasses would have noticed the change for most of human history. Interestingly, two airports in Florida have modified the orientation of their runways to reflect the drift.

Now look who is the fucking moron. And that is all you will ever be. Even in your own post it states that the drift has little impact on life. Learn to read with some comprehension, Midnight.

In the article below from the same British Geological Society site, you can see that the atmosphere provides a blanket that is the equal of 13 ft. of concrete as far as that type of solar radiation is concerned.

Magnetic Reversals

What happens during a reversal? What do we see at the Earth's surface?

As above, we have limited evidence from geological measurements about the patterns of change in the magnetic field during a reversal. We might expect to see, based on models of the field run on supercomputers, a far more complicated field pattern at the Earth's surface, with perhaps more than one North and South pole at any given time. We might also see the poles 'wandering' with time from their current positions towards and across the equator. The overall strength of the field, anywhere on the Earth, may be no more than a tenth of its strength now.


Is there any danger to life?

Almost certainly not. The Earth's magnetic field is contained within a region of space, known as the magnetosphere, by the action of the solar wind. The magnetosphere deflects many, but not all, of the high-energy particles that flow from the Sun in the solar wind and from other sources in the galaxy. Sometimes the Sun is particularly active, for example when there are many sunspots, and it may send clouds of high-energy particles in the direction of the Earth. During such solar 'flares' and 'coronal mass ejections', astronauts in Earth orbit may need extra shelter to avoid higher doses of radiation. Therefore we know that the Earth's magnetic field offers only some, rather than complete, resistance to particle radiation from space. Indeed high-energy particles can actually be accelerated within the magnetosphere.

At the Earth's surface, the atmosphere acts as an extra blanket to stop all but the most energetic of the solar and galactic radiation. In the absence of a magnetic field, the atmosphere would still stop most of the radiation. Indeed the atmosphere shields us from high-energy radiation as effectively as a concrete layer some 13 feet thick.

Human beings have been on the Earth for a number of million years, during which there have been many reversals, and there is no obvious correlation between human development and reversals. Similarly, reversal patterns do not match patterns in species extinction during geological history.

Some animals, such as pigeons and whales, may use the Earth's magnetic field for direction finding. Assuming that a reversal takes a number of thousand years, that is, over many generations of each species, each animal may well adapt to the changing magnetic environment, or develop different methods of navigation.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

The earth's magnetic field impacts climate//Viewzone

The earth's magnetic field impacts climate: Danish study COPENHAGEN (AFP) -- The earth's climate has been significantly affected by the planet's magnetic field, according to a Danish study published Monday that could challenge the notion that human emissions are responsible for global warming.

I mean, it's just DANISH scientists and all.... Clearly beholden to Big Danish Oil conglomerates.....

You fucking moron. Did you even KNOW about this, before reading this thread?

 

[Midnight Marauder]

You fucking moron:

The earth’s magnetic field is an important key to life on the planet. It diverts most of that stream of charged particles produced by the sun known as solar winds. Also, changes in the earth’s magnetic field have been connected with climate changes. The drift of the magnetic north pole seem to have little impact upon life on the earth. Only sailors using their instruments of navigation or trekkers in the wilderness with compasses would have noticed the change for most of human history. Interestingly, two airports in Florida have modified the orientation of their runways to reflect the drift.

Now look who is the fucking moron. And that is all you will ever be. Even in your own post it states that the drift has little impact on life.

I am not talking LIFE ON THE PLANET moron, I am talking CLIMATE.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

You just stepped right into this pile of dogshit I placed here, without even LOOKING first. Just like I knew you would.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

The results of the study, which has also been published in US scientific journal Geology, lend support to a controversial theory published a decade ago by Danish astrophysicist Henrik Svensmark, who claimed the climate was highly influenced by galactic cosmic ray (GCR) particles penetrating the earth's atmosphere.
Svensmark's theory, which pitted him against today's mainstream theorists who claim carbon dioxide (CO2) is responsible for global warming, involved a link between the earth's magnetic field and climate, since that field helps regulate the number of GCR particles that reach the earth's atmosphere.

Ooooh. HERESY!

 

[Midnight Marauder]

What have you to say about this published and peer reviewed study, OldCrocks?

 

[Old Rocks]

That hypothesis has little standing in the scientific community. We have records that easily go back 50 years concerning the amount of incoming cosmic radiation, and the level of the Earth's magnetic field. The evidence for any corelation is tenuous at best.

Climate Change Is Not Caused By Cosmic Rays, According To New Research

Research published April 3, in the Institute of Physics' Environmental Research Letters shows how a team from Lancaster and Durham Universities sought a means to prove the correlation between the ionizing cosmic rays and the production of low cloud cover.

Previous research had shown a possible hint of such a correlation, using the results of the International Satellite Cloud Climatology Project, and this had been used to propose that global warming was all down to cosmic rays.

The new research shows that change in cloud cover over the Earth does not correlate to changes in cosmic ray intensity. Neither does it show increases and decreases during the sporadic bursts and decreases in the cosmic ray intensity which occur regularly.

One such very large burst caused the magnetic storm which blacked out the power in Quebec in 1989.

Professors Sloan from Lancaster University and Wolfendale from Durham University write, "No evidence could be found of changes in the low cloud cover from known changes in the cosmic ray ionization rate."
The published version of the paper "Testing the proposed causal link between cosmic rays and cloud cover" (2008 Environmental Research Letters 3 024001) will be available online from Thursday 3 April at

 

[Old Rocks]

I would say that once again you failed to do minimal research. A very weak hypotheses pretty much falsified.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

I would say that once again you failed to do minimal research. A very weak hypotheses pretty much falsified.

The Danish study is bought and paid for by Big Oil!!!

You give us some crap from 2008, I give you a peer reviewed, published study from NOW, and you think you've trumped?

 

[Oddball]

Bought and paid for by Big Danish!