Are all "climate change" bets off, now that the earth has shifted on its axis?

[Old Rocks]

Really, you want more real research falsifying that whole hypothesis? It is out there, and easy to find.

Cosmic Rays too Wimpy to Influence Climate

People looking for new ways to explain climate change on Earth have sometimes turned to cosmic rays, showers of atomic nuclei that emanate from the Sun and other sources in the cosmos.

in press in the journal Geophysical Research Letters, says cosmic rays are puny compaBut new research, red to other climatic influences, including greenhouse gases — and not likely to impact Earth‘s climate much.



Jeffrey Pierce and Peter Adams of Carnegie Mellon University in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, point out that cycles in numerous climate phenomena, including tropospheric and stratospheric temperatures, sea-surface temperatures, sea-level pressure, and low level cloud cover have been observed to correlate with the 11-year solar cycle.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Really, you want more real research falsifying that whole hypothesis? It is out there, and easy to find.

Cosmic rays, hell even the Sun itself, the earth's magnetic field, NONE of these are as powerful as Man!

Right, OldCrocks?

 

[Old Rocks]

I would say that once again you failed to do minimal research. A very weak hypotheses pretty much falsified.

The Danish study is bought and paid for by Big Oil!!!

You give us some crap from 2008, I give you a peer reviewed, published study from NOW, and you think you've trumped?

Don't try to put words in my mouth, asshole.

 

[Old Rocks]

Bought and paid for by Big Danish!

Damn, you are as dumb a fuck as mdn.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

I would say that once again you failed to do minimal research. A very weak hypotheses pretty much falsified.

The Danish study is bought and paid for by Big Oil!!!

You give us some crap from 2008, I give you a peer reviewed, published study from NOW, and you think you've trumped?

Don't try to put words in my mouth, asshole.

There wasn't any need to do so, you did it to YOURSELF on this one!

 

[westwall]

The earth's magnetic field impacts climate//Viewzone

The earth's magnetic field impacts climate: Danish study COPENHAGEN (AFP) -- The earth's climate has been significantly affected by the planet's magnetic field, according to a Danish study published Monday that could challenge the notion that human emissions are responsible for global warming.

I mean, it's just DANISH scientists and all.... Clearly beholden to Big Danish Oil conglomerates.....

You fucking moron. Did you even KNOW about this, before reading this thread?

Nope!

 

[Midnight Marauder]

You are such a stupid and easily duped fuck, I swear.

Are you related to Truthmatters?

 

[Old Rocks]

Really, you want more real research falsifying that whole hypothesis? It is out there, and easy to find.

Cosmic rays, hell even the Sun itself, the earth's magnetic field, NONE of these are as powerful as Man!

Right, OldCrocks?

Well, dumbass, you have shown, once again, that you know nothing of how science is done. All you are capable of is mindless derision when shown what the facts are. Cosmic rays have been shown to have little impact on weather. The waning magnetic field has little effect. That is what the scientists are stating. If you cannot live with that reality

 

[Oddball]

Bought and paid for by Big Danish!

Damn, you are as dumb a fuck as mdn.

 

[Old Rocks]

The earth's magnetic field impacts climate//Viewzone

The earth's magnetic field impacts climate: Danish study COPENHAGEN (AFP) -- The earth's climate has been significantly affected by the planet's magnetic field, according to a Danish study published Monday that could challenge the notion that human emissions are responsible for global warming.

I mean, it's just DANISH scientists and all.... Clearly beholden to Big Danish Oil conglomerates.....

You fucking moron. Did you even KNOW about this, before reading this thread?

Nope!

Steens Mountain.

 

[daveman]

Ummm...the magnetic poles have always shifted around: NASA - Earth's Inconstant Magnetic Field.

 

[Old Rocks]

yep.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Ummm...the magnetic poles have always shifted around: NASA - Earth's Inconstant Magnetic Field.

No shit. And they have always affected climate. However, the last time scientists think the poles actually reversed, was 780,000 years ago.

Despite the denials of the local idiot, OldCrocks.

Again I give you, a report on the most recent peer reviewed, published study:

COPENHAGEN (AFP) -- The earth's climate has been significantly affected by the planet's magnetic field, according to a Danish study published Monday that could challenge the notion that human emissions are responsible for global warming.

"Our results show a strong correlation between the strength of the earth's magnetic field and the amount of precipitation in the tropics," one of the two Danish geophysicists behind the study, Mads Faurschou Knudsen of the geology department at Aarhus University in western Denmark, told the Videnskab journal.

He and his colleague Peter Riisager, of the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland (GEUS), compared a reconstruction of the prehistoric magnetic field 5,000 years ago based on data drawn from stalagmites and stalactites found in China and Oman. The results of the study, which has also been published in US scientific journal Geology, lend support to a controversial theory published a decade ago by Danish astrophysicist Henrik Svensmark, who claimed the climate was highly influenced by galactic cosmic ray (GCR) particles penetrating the earth's atmosphere.

Svensmark's theory, which pitted him against today's mainstream theorists who claim carbon dioxide (CO2) is responsible for global warming, involved a link between the earth's magnetic field and climate, since that field helps regulate the number of GCR particles that reach the earth's atmosphere.
"The only way we can explain the (geomagnetic-climate) connection is through the exact same physical mechanisms that were present in Henrik Svensmark's theory," Knudsen said.

"If changes in the magnetic field, which occur independently of the earth's climate, can be linked to changes in precipitation, then it can only be explained through the magnetic field's blocking of the cosmetic rays," he said.

Just.... Fucking read it. The whole quote is the link.

OldCrocks wants to cherry-pick his "science" to include only that which supports his pet theories.

 

[Old Rocks]

The consensus is that the magnetic field has little to do with climate or weather. That consensus was formed from geological studies from the many times the poles have reversed in geologic history. It is formed from observations of times when we have had high levels of cosmic radiation hitting the atmosphere, and little change was observed.

You want to argue with the scientists, go ahead. Thus far, I see little evidence for that hypothesis.

 

[Midnight Marauder]

The consensus is that the magnetic field has little to do with climate or weather. That consensus was formed from geological studies from the many times the poles have reversed in geologic history. It is formed from observations of times when we have had high levels of cosmic radiation hitting the atmosphere, and little change was observed.

You want to argue with the scientists, go ahead. Thus far, I see little evidence for that hypothesis.

OldCrocks wants to cherry-pick his "science" to include only that which supports his pet theories.

 

[Old Rocks]

Again, show where the consensus is that the earth's magnetic field plays a major role in climate. You showed a peer reviewed article, which is all to the good. But I showed peer reviewed rebuttals, and the fact that most consider the affect of the magnetic field minimal, at best.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Now Midnight, you are still the fool you have always been. No scientific backup for your yap-yap at all. Like the rest of the Conservatives here, science is an anthema to you.

Magnetic Reversals

That site is the British Geological Society. But then, you probably could not comprehend basic science in any case.

Just continue your mindless derision. It is all you are capable of.

Still waiting for you to show us a single repeatable laboratory experiment hat shows a temperature increase by all variables except for a 200PPM increase in CO2.

Saying "but CO2 is a ghg!" does not count.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The consensus is that the magnetic field has little to do with climate or weather. That consensus was formed from geological studies from the many times the poles have reversed in geologic history. It is formed from observations of times when we have had high levels of cosmic radiation hitting the atmosphere, and little change was observed.

You want to argue with the scientists, go ahead. Thus far, I see little evidence for that hypothesis.

The planets foremost expert on AGW disagrees with you

BBC: Do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically-significant global warming

Phil Jones Yes.."

 

[Midnight Marauder]

Again, show where the consensus is that the earth's magnetic field plays a major role in climate. You showed a peer reviewed article, which is all to the good. But I showed peer reviewed rebuttals, and the fact that most consider the affect of the magnetic field minimal, at best.

20 posts in, and you finally realized the article is reporting on a published and peer-reviewed study about the CLIMATE, not "life on the planet."

Now, READ the report and the study. It is new, so past studies from 2008 and crap, have no bearing. "Consensus" isn't science. It's a bunch of monkeys grunting and nodding their heads in agreement because they know this is what prompts the government to feed them bananas. It's not much different than a lab rat hitting a feeder peg. Or, much different from you denying anything that doesn't back up your pet theories.

 

[Oddball]

Love to hang around and shoot the shit, but I gotta clear another 6" of global warming from the driveway.