Anyone ever had a professor push a political idealogy?

[8537]

I attended a very, very large state school for undergrad. As I recall, I had a couple profs who wore their opinions on their sleeves. I never felt it was a problem, however. For the most part they taught the material and left their opinions for comments, additional info etc...and the opinions gave some depth to the material.

In graduate school i had several very highly opinionated profs, and I'd expect nothing less. When you're in grad school, you should be capable of parsing fact and opinions - and capable of challenging profs when you disagree with their opinion. I never got the impression that my disagreement would negatively impact my assessment, and in most cases I think profs encouraged that disagreement. It's a good way to learn.

 

[shintao]

I read this all the time, and I never had a single professor talk up a particular candidate or party or idealogy.

I once had one professor in geology show evidence of global warming based on his field research, however he never said a word about whether or not it was man-made. So I guess that's the closest thing you could get into spinning whether or not he pushed a particular party.

What about you guys? I went to Ohio State just as an fyi, any of you ever experienced this?

I had a social professor who defended feminism, and when I objected to one of his points, I was met with three class mates after class reading me the riot act.

I was taking a speech class on a second floor, which had a male & female bathrooms. The college decided to make both bathrooms for females & guys could choogey down stairs to a male restroom.

Then there was the agricultural class dedicated to females, who got free lap tops for taking the course. Not the males.

And I had a lizzy psychology teacher (good looking gal) who tended to woo the girls in class, and ignore the males. We had some good arguments over smoking.

Feminism is just a broad way of saying you want men and women to have equal rights, I dunno how anyone could be against that in 2011.

I took a women's study course in college too, lots of hot broads in there lol, but I had the same thing of getting unfair treatment cuz I was a dude from the female teacher. Essentially everyone who went to the class got an A and I got an A- so I didn't throw too much of a fit.

I have always been a middle road defender of equality for everyone. But lets say the argument is women who work in the pornography business are being abused by males ~ taken advantage of. I would object to that notion, and the girls would call me down on it. There were a lot of myths in college that I could prove were unfounded by research, and I would defend whatever side the argument supported.

 

[FA_Q2]

I'm not trying to dismiss what you're saying, but I mean college only. I hear people say college professors are always pushing idealogies all over the place and I never had a shred of that.

I think you only see that in topics that lend themselves to political discourse, and only in Junior or Senior level courses. The fact of the matter is, if you're teaching a Freshman or Sophomore level course you barely have enough time to cover the topics the students will need for the next course in the line, and you definitely don't have time for political diatribes.

Note, I am not saying it never happens, but in my experience its pretty rare, and generally limited to topics that you know going in are political.

I was in political courses, government courses and had other courses that we often discussed current events, I never once heard one professor push a political idealogy.

I just want to see if it happens at other colleges, OSU was an enormous college so it's probably a pretty good example but who knows maybe at Texas or Oregon it's different.

I have had it happen SEVERAL times. Most frequently, it happens as a matter of how they present certain views and slap down others more than an outright DEMS ARE THE BOMB type thing. Rarely is it that open because they usually are thinking how fair and balanced they are rather than how much of a hack they are. Funny enough though, it rarely happens in any of the political or government classes that I have noticed. In order to teach those you almost have to take your views out of it.

I read this all the time, and I never had a single professor talk up a particular candidate or party or idealogy.

I once had one professor in geology show evidence of global warming based on his field research, however he never said a word about whether or not it was man-made. So I guess that's the closest thing you could get into spinning whether or not he pushed a particular party.

What about you guys? I went to Ohio State just as an fyi, any of you ever experienced this?

I had a social professor who defended feminism, and when I objected to one of his points, I was met with three class mates after class reading me the riot act.

I was taking a speech class on a second floor, which had a male & female bathrooms. The college decided to make both bathrooms for females & guys could choogey down stairs to a male restroom.

Then there was the agricultural class dedicated to females, who got free lap tops for taking the course. Not the males.

And I had a lizzy psychology teacher (good looking gal) who tended to woo the girls in class, and ignore the males. We had some good arguments over smoking.

Feminism is just a broad way of saying you want men and women to have equal rights, I dunno how anyone could be against that in 2011.

I took a women's study course in college too, lots of hot broads in there lol, but I had the same thing of getting unfair treatment cuz I was a dude from the female teacher. Essentially everyone who went to the class got an A and I got an A- so I didn't throw too much of a fit.

Feminism and equal rights for women are nothing alike. There is wanting equal rights and then there is wanting to take the rule over and hand out the yoke. Feminism might have started as an equal rights movement but now because most (not all) of those goals have been met it has become another animal.

 

[Dr.Drock]

I think you only see that in topics that lend themselves to political discourse, and only in Junior or Senior level courses. The fact of the matter is, if you're teaching a Freshman or Sophomore level course you barely have enough time to cover the topics the students will need for the next course in the line, and you definitely don't have time for political diatribes.

Note, I am not saying it never happens, but in my experience its pretty rare, and generally limited to topics that you know going in are political.

I was in political courses, government courses and had other courses that we often discussed current events, I never once heard one professor push a political idealogy.

I just want to see if it happens at other colleges, OSU was an enormous college so it's probably a pretty good example but who knows maybe at Texas or Oregon it's different.

I have had it happen SEVERAL times. Most frequently, it happens as a matter of how they present certain views and slap down others more than an outright DEMS ARE THE BOMB type thing. Rarely is it that open because they usually are thinking how fair and balanced they are rather than how much of a hack they are. Funny enough though, it rarely happens in any of the political or government classes that I have noticed. In order to teach those you almost have to take your views out of it.

I had a social professor who defended feminism, and when I objected to one of his points, I was met with three class mates after class reading me the riot act.

I was taking a speech class on a second floor, which had a male & female bathrooms. The college decided to make both bathrooms for females & guys could choogey down stairs to a male restroom.

Then there was the agricultural class dedicated to females, who got free lap tops for taking the course. Not the males.

And I had a lizzy psychology teacher (good looking gal) who tended to woo the girls in class, and ignore the males. We had some good arguments over smoking.

Feminism is just a broad way of saying you want men and women to have equal rights, I dunno how anyone could be against that in 2011.

I took a women's study course in college too, lots of hot broads in there lol, but I had the same thing of getting unfair treatment cuz I was a dude from the female teacher. Essentially everyone who went to the class got an A and I got an A- so I didn't throw too much of a fit.

Feminism and equal rights for women are nothing alike. There is wanting equal rights and then there is wanting to take the rule over and hand out the yoke. Feminism might have started as an equal rights movement but now because most (not all) of those goals have been met it has become another animal.

The definition of feminism is wanting equal rights for men and women, luckily the professor I had for women's study stuck to that definition.

Maybe certain lobby groups take it to the femi-nazi stance, but that's not what the word means.

Shintao I agree with your stance on porn, I think women should have more right to choose what they want in that career field (prostitution). I don't see much difference between the 2, almost all cases in both fields are you're being paid to have sex with a stranger.

 

[Jarhead]

My son is a poli sci major at a SUNY school here in New York....one of the top ones...considered the ivy league of SUNY
His professors push a very liberal/progressive ideology.

My son grew up in a conservative household and now when we speak, he and I have some very interesting and sometimes eye opening debates.
It is my choice to pay for my son to go to school there....and to be frank, I see it as healthy.
Let him hear the other view...and let him learn from it...for good or bad.

He has yet to receive a grade based on his conservatism. They may push their ideology, but they dont insist all believe in it. His grades are based on his own interpretation and his factual and opinionated articulation of it.

I have no issue with it.

 

[FA_Q2]

As Carlin said:
"Why is it illegal to sell something that you can give away for free???"

 

[8537]

I think women should have more right to choose what they want in that career field (prostitution). I don't see much difference between the 2, almost all cases in both fields are you're being paid to have sex with a stranger.

That little distinction in the law has always cracked me up:

Get paid to have sex with a man? that's illegal and you'll get arrested.

Unless of course you're getting paid to have sex with a man...while the camera is rolling. Then it's movie making, and perfectly legal.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

I'm not trying to dismiss what you're saying, but I mean college only. I hear people say college professors are always pushing idealogies all over the place and I never had a shred of that.

I think you only see that in topics that lend themselves to political discourse, and only in Junior or Senior level courses. The fact of the matter is, if you're teaching a Freshman or Sophomore level course you barely have enough time to cover the topics the students will need for the next course in the line, and you definitely don't have time for political diatribes.

Note, I am not saying it never happens, but in my experience its pretty rare, and generally limited to topics that you know going in are political.

The Carter rant happened (ironically considering your degree) in my Soph busness math class. The other occured in my American History class. He passed over the Korean war and dragged out the VN war for weeks. we could tell he couldn't wait to get to that part.

They should be in a lot of trouble then. Most Freshmen and Sophomore level courses are pretty tightly regimented at the college level to ensure the pre-reqs for higher level courses are met.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

I would've given anything for my accounting professors to spend their time pushing any political idealogue rather than that crap lol.

I hear ya... and I'm a CPA. Didn't get sexy until Consolidations and whatnot.

I bet talk of Consolidations really brings the lady's around, Soggy! Hot, sexy Consolidation talk will hook 'em every time.)

That and SOX compliance.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Why do they bury Arthur Andersen executives at least 20 feet under ground?

Because deep down, they're really good people.


I even know accounting jokes.

 

[8537]

I hear ya... and I'm a CPA. Didn't get sexy until Consolidations and whatnot.

I bet talk of Consolidations really brings the lady's around, Soggy! Hot, sexy Consolidation talk will hook 'em every time.)

That and SOX compliance.

I approve this message!

Ladies can't stay away from that hot little man.

 

[G.T.]

There's definitely a difference between porn and prostitution. They're both full of sluts and scumbags, but in Porn the Actors are all paid (not one actor paying the other as in: Prostitution), there's blood-testing, there's a product being produced and sold. In Prostitution, one skeezy un-tested person pays another skeezy un-tested person and the only thing being made is either a Baby or a Disease.

 

[Dr.Drock]

I think women should have more right to choose what they want in that career field (prostitution). I don't see much difference between the 2, almost all cases in both fields are you're being paid to have sex with a stranger.

That little distinction in the law has always cracked me up:

Get paid to have sex with a man? that's illegal and you'll get arrested.

Unless of course you're getting paid to have sex with a man...while the camera is rolling. Then it's movie making, and perfectly legal.

Yeah I guess that's another thread for another day but I'm 100% on board with you.

I guess the fear of rape in terms of prostitution is there or a woman robbing a man after sleeping with him and claiming she was a prostitute, but if this stuff were allowed in particular club places with ample security (like a porn setting) I don't see how anyone can have any problem with that and not have the same problem with porn.

This is typically an issue pushed by the most religious spots of the United States, but where are porn sales the highest? You guessed it, the same spots.

 

[Dr.Drock]

There's definitely a difference between porn and prostitution. They're both full of sluts and scumbags, but in Porn the Actors are all paid (not one actor paying the other as in: Prostitution), there's blood-testing, there's a product being produced and sold. In Prostitution, one skeezy un-tested person pays another skeezy un-tested person and the only thing being made is either a Baby or a Disease.

Both are willing to take the risk, so what?

 

[G.T.]

There's definitely a difference between porn and prostitution. They're both full of sluts and scumbags, but in Porn the Actors are all paid (not one actor paying the other as in: Prostitution), there's blood-testing, there's a product being produced and sold. In Prostitution, one skeezy un-tested person pays another skeezy un-tested person and the only thing being made is either a Baby or a Disease.

Both are willing to take the risk, so what?

I'm not advocating to keep one illegal I'm just sayin,' they're not exactly the same.

 

[8537]

There's definitely a difference between porn and prostitution. They're both full of sluts and scumbags, but in Porn the Actors are all paid (not one actor paying the other as in: Prostitution), there's blood-testing, there's a product being produced and sold. In Prostitution, one skeezy un-tested person pays another skeezy un-tested person and the only thing being made is either a Baby or a Disease.

That's easily fixable. If it's legal, then at least some regulations can be put in place. I honestly don't know much about it, but apparently brothels in Nevada are heavily regulated and have very little problem.

 

[Dr.Drock]

There's definitely a difference between porn and prostitution. They're both full of sluts and scumbags, but in Porn the Actors are all paid (not one actor paying the other as in: Prostitution), there's blood-testing, there's a product being produced and sold. In Prostitution, one skeezy un-tested person pays another skeezy un-tested person and the only thing being made is either a Baby or a Disease.

Both are willing to take the risk, so what?

I'm not advocating to keep one illegal I'm just sayin,' they're not exactly the same.

Ok my apologies, I agree.

 

[G.T.]

There's definitely a difference between porn and prostitution. They're both full of sluts and scumbags, but in Porn the Actors are all paid (not one actor paying the other as in: Prostitution), there's blood-testing, there's a product being produced and sold. In Prostitution, one skeezy un-tested person pays another skeezy un-tested person and the only thing being made is either a Baby or a Disease.

That's easily fixable. If it's legal, then at least some regulations can be put in place. I honestly don't know much about it, but apparently brothels in Nevada are heavily regulated and have very little problem.

I'm not dating Hookers or Porn hoes, so who am I kidding. I give --> . <-- that much of a fuck, good sir!

 

[Dr.Traveler]

There's definitely a difference between porn and prostitution. They're both full of sluts and scumbags, but in Porn the Actors are all paid (not one actor paying the other as in: Prostitution), there's blood-testing, there's a product being produced and sold. In Prostitution, one skeezy un-tested person pays another skeezy un-tested person and the only thing being made is either a Baby or a Disease.

That's easily fixable. If it's legal, then at least some regulations can be put in place. I honestly don't know much about it, but apparently brothels in Nevada are heavily regulated and have very little problem.

That's essentially the pro-MJ argument in a nutshell. Once an action is legal, you can outright regulate/tax it to death. Once it's illegal, there's not much you can do other than throw folks in jail.

Morally, I'm outright against prostitution. But the libertarian in me is willing to at least consider a Nevada-esque solution.

 

[8537]

There's definitely a difference between porn and prostitution. They're both full of sluts and scumbags, but in Porn the Actors are all paid (not one actor paying the other as in: Prostitution), there's blood-testing, there's a product being produced and sold. In Prostitution, one skeezy un-tested person pays another skeezy un-tested person and the only thing being made is either a Baby or a Disease.

That's easily fixable. If it's legal, then at least some regulations can be put in place. I honestly don't know much about it, but apparently brothels in Nevada are heavily regulated and have very little problem.

I'm not dating Hookers or Porn hoes, so who am I kidding. I give --> . <-- that much of a fuck, good sir!

Just in case my wife is reading this, I should probably go on the record here: I'm not dating hookers or porn hoes, either.