An interesting article on sea levels rising..

[Wyatt earp]

Check out this part of the story...

Seas aren’t just rising, scientists say — it’s worse than that. They’re speeding up.



The problem, or even mystery, is that scientists haven’t seen an unambiguous acceleration of sea level rise in a data record that’s considered the best for observing the problem — the one that began with the TOPEX/Poseidon satellite, which launched in late 1992 and carried an instrument, called a radar altimeter, that gives a very precise measurement of sea level around the globe. (It has since been succeeded by other satellites providing similar measurements.)

This record actually shows a decrease in the rate of sea level rise from the first decade measured by satellites (1993 to 2002) to the second one (2003 to 2012). “We’ve been looking at the altimeter records and scratching our heads, and saying, ‘why aren’t we seeing an acceleration in the satellite record?’ We should be,” said John Fasullo, a climate scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado.

In a new study in the open-access journal Scientific Reports, however, Fasullo and two colleagues say they have now resolved this problem. It turns out, they say, that sea level rise was artificially masked in the satellite record by the fact that one year before the satellite launched, the Earth experienced a major cooling pulse.

 

[Two Thumbs]

you can't make this kind of bullshit up.

Uhm, uhm, the truth isn't lining up with what we said the facts were, so so, uhm, fuck, uhm, pineapples!

 

[Two Thumbs]

when GP is telling you your environmental bullshit is bullshit.....

 

[Wyatt earp]

This what gets me is the AGW cult said they eliminated every known variable ...and there was no warming pause..

Yea ok


Yet a little volcano cause a cooling pulse?



The study was performed using a suite of 40 climate change models to determine how the Pinatubo eruption affected seas and the global distribution of water. The scientists estimate as a result that sea level not only fell between 5 and 7 millimeters


Got to love scientist guessetimations

 

[Two Thumbs]

This what gets me is the AGW cult said they eliminated every known variable ...and there was no warming pause..

Yea ok


Yet a little volcano cause a cooling pulse?



The study was performed using a suite of 40 climate change models to determine how the Pinatubo eruption affected seas and the global distribution of water. The scientists estimate as a result that sea level not only fell between 5 and 7 millimeters


Got to love scientist guessetimations

It's all just a money and power grab.

scientist want money and the pols that give it to them want power

 

[Crick]

What money do you think scientists are getting? Research grants? When a scientists get a research grant, the purpose of the grant is to fund the conduct of specified research. The grant is sized to conduct that research and the scientist will have to keep records of his expenditures for his grantor. They do not include large sums of money that the researches gets to simply stick in his pocket and use to buy a new car. If scientists were getting rich from research grants, why wouldn't we see scientists going solo? Why do they maintain employment at universities and large corporations?

You people are SO goddamned stupid!

 

[Wyatt earp]

What money do you think scientists are getting? Research grants? When a scientists get a research grant, the purpose of the grant is to fund the conduct of specified research. The grant is sized to conduct that research and the scientist will have to keep records of his expenditures for his grantor. They do not include large sums of money that the researches gets to simply stick in his pocket and use to buy a new car. If scientists were getting rich from research grants, why wouldn't we see scientists going solo? Why do they maintain employment at universities and large corporations?

You people are SO goddamned stupid!

Why do they maintain employment at universities


Because those 30~80 year old scientist are pervs...Damn how stupid do you think I am? They get to oogle at 18~22 year old coeds all day long



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[Two Thumbs]

What money do you think scientists are getting? Research grants? When a scientists get a research grant, the purpose of the grant is to fund the conduct of specified research. The grant is sized to conduct that research and the scientist will have to keep records of his expenditures for his grantor. They do not include large sums of money that the researches gets to simply stick in his pocket and use to buy a new car. If scientists were getting rich from research grants, why wouldn't we see scientists going solo? Why do they maintain employment at universities and large corporations?

You people are SO goddamned stupid!

so how do scientist get paid so much?

If their income doesn't come from grants (our money), does it come from the money faerie?

 

[SSDD]

What money do you think scientists are getting? Research grants? When a scientists get a research grant, the purpose of the grant is to fund the conduct of specified research. The grant is sized to conduct that research and the scientist will have to keep records of his expenditures for his grantor. They do not include large sums of money that the researches gets to simply stick in his pocket and use to buy a new car. If scientists were getting rich from research grants, why wouldn't we see scientists going solo? Why do they maintain employment at universities and large corporations?

You people are SO goddamned stupid!

Here are michael mann's accepted proposals up to 2009 and the amounts...

Funded Proposals

2009-2013 Quantifying the influence of environmental temperature on transmission of vector-borne diseases, NSF-EF [Principal Investigator: M. Thomas; Co-Investigators: R.G. Crane, M.E. Mann, A. Read, T. Scott (Penn State Univ.)] $1,884,991

2009-2012 Toward Improved Projections of the Climate Response to Anthropogenic Forcing: Combining Paleoclimate Proxy and Instrumental Observations with an Earth System Model, NSF-ATM [Principal Investigator: M.E. Mann; Co-Investigators: K. Keller (Penn State Univ.), A. Timmermann (Univ. of Hawaii)] $541,184

2008-2011 A Framework for Probabilistic Projections of Energy-Relevant Streamflow Indices, DOE [Principal Investigator: T. Wagener; Co-Investigators: M. Mann, R. Crane, K. Freeman (Penn State Univ.)] $330,000

2008-2009 AMS Industry/Government Graduate Fellowship (Anthony Sabbatelli), American Meteorological Society [Principal Investigator: M.E. Mann (Penn State Univ.)] $23,000

2006-2009 Climate Change Collective Learning and Observatory Network in Ghana, USAID [Principal Investigator: P. Tschakert; Co-Investigators: M.E. Mann, W. Easterling (Penn State Univ.)] $759,928

2006-2009 Analysis and testing of proxy-based climate reconstructions, NSF-ATM [Principal Investigator: M.E. Mann (Penn State Univ.)] $459,000

2006-2009 Constraining the Tropical Pacific’s Role in Low-Frequency Climate Change of the Last Millennium, NOAA-Climate Change Data & Detection (CCDD) Program [Principal Investigators: K. Cobb (Georgia Tech Univ.), N. Graham (Hydro. Res. Center), M.E. Mann (Penn State Univ.), Hoerling (NOAA Clim. Dyn. Center), Alexander (NOAA Clim. Dyn. Center)] PSU award (M.E. Mann): $68,065

2006-2007 Acquisition of high-performance computing cluster for the Penn State Earth System Science Center (ESSC), NSF-EAR [Principal Investigator: M.E. Mann, Co-Investigators: R. Alley, M. Arthur, J. Evans, D. Pollard (Penn State Univ.)] $100,000

2003-2006 Decadal Variability in the Tropical Indo-Pacific: Integrating Paleo & Coupled Model Results, NOAA-Climate Change Data & Detection (CCDD) Program [Principal Investigators: M.E. Mann (U.Va), J. Cole (U. Arizona), V. Mehta (CRCES)] U.Va award (M.E. Mann): $102,000

2002-2005 Reconstruction and Analysis of Patterns of Climate Variability Over the Last One to Two Millennia, NOAA-Climate Change Data & Detection (CCDD) Program [Principal Investigator: M.E. Mann, Co-Investigators: S. Rutherford, R.S. Bradley, M.K. Hughes] $315,000

2002-2005 Remote Observations of Ice Sheet Surface Temperature: Toward Multi-Proxy Reconstruction of Antarctic Climate Variability, NSF-Office of Polar Programs, Antarctic Oceans and Climate System [Principal Investigators: M.E. Mann (U. Va), E. Steig (U. Wash.), D. Weinbrenner (U. Wash)] U.Va award (M.E. Mann): $133,000

2002-2003 Paleoclimatic Reconstructions of the Arctic Oscillation, NOAA-Cooperative Institute for Arctic Research (CIFAR) Program [Principal Investigators: Rosanne D'Arrigo, Ed Cook (Lamont/Columbia); Co-Investigator: M.E. Mann] U.Va subcontract (M.E. Mann): $14,400

2002-2003 Global Multidecadal-to-Century-Scale Oscillations During the Last 1000 years, NOAA-Climate Change Data & Detection (CCDD) Program [Principal Investigator: Malcolm Hughes (Univ. of Arizona); Co-Investigators: M.E. Mann; J. Park (Yale University)] U.Va subcontract (M.E. Mann): $20,775

2001-2003 Resolving the Scale-wise Sensitivities in the Dynamical Coupling Between Climate and the Biosphere, University of Virginia-Fund for Excellence in Science and Technology (FEST) [Principal Investigator: J.D. Albertson; Co-Investigators: H. Epstein, M.E. Mann] U.Va internal award: $214,700

2001-2002 Advancing predictive models of marine sediment transport, Office of Naval Research [Principal Investigator: P. Wiberg (U.Va), Co-Investigator: M.E. Mann] $20,775

1999-2002 Multiproxy Climate Reconstruction: Extension in Space and Time, and Model/Data Intercomparison, NOAA-Earth Systems History [Principal Investigator: M.E. Mann (U.Va), Co-Investigators: R.S. Bradley, M.K. Hughes] $381,647

1998-2000 Validation of Decadal-to-Multi-century climate predictions, DOE [Principal Investigator: R.S. Bradley (U. Mass); Co-Investigators: H.F. Diaz, M.E. Mann]

1998-2000 The changing seasons? Detecting and understanding climatic change, NSF-Hydrological Science [Principal Investigator U. Lall (U. Utah); Co-investigators: M.E. Mann, B. Rajagopalan, M. Cane] $266,235K

1996-1999 Patterns of Organized Climatic Variability: Spatio-Temporal Analysis of Globally

Distributed Climate Proxy Records and Long-term Model Integrations, NSF-Earth Systems History [Principal Investigator: R.S. Bradley (U. Mass); Co-Investigators: M.E. Mann, M.K. Hughes] $270,000

1996-1998 Investigation of Patterns of Organized Large-Scale Climatic Variability During the Last

Millennium, DOE, Alexander Hollaender Postdoctoral Fellowship [M.E. Mann] $78,000

That is just shy of 6 million dollars....ever see a picture of his house?....any idea what his net worth is?....are either commensurate with the salary of a climate science professor that has no family money?

 

[Crick]

What money do you think scientists are getting? Research grants? When a scientists get a research grant, the purpose of the grant is to fund the conduct of specified research. The grant is sized to conduct that research and the scientist will have to keep records of his expenditures for his grantor. They do not include large sums of money that the researches gets to simply stick in his pocket and use to buy a new car. If scientists were getting rich from research grants, why wouldn't we see scientists going solo? Why do they maintain employment at universities and large corporations?

You people are SO goddamned stupid!

Here are michael mann's accepted proposals up to 2009 and the amounts...

Funded Proposals

2009-2013 Quantifying the influence of environmental temperature on transmission of vector-borne diseases, NSF-EF [Principal Investigator: M. Thomas; Co-Investigators: R.G. Crane, M.E. Mann, A. Read, T. Scott (Penn State Univ.)] $1,884,991

2009-2012 Toward Improved Projections of the Climate Response to Anthropogenic Forcing: Combining Paleoclimate Proxy and Instrumental Observations with an Earth System Model, NSF-ATM [Principal Investigator: M.E. Mann; Co-Investigators: K. Keller (Penn State Univ.), A. Timmermann (Univ. of Hawaii)] $541,184

2008-2011 A Framework for Probabilistic Projections of Energy-Relevant Streamflow Indices, DOE [Principal Investigator: T. Wagener; Co-Investigators: M. Mann, R. Crane, K. Freeman (Penn State Univ.)] $330,000

2008-2009 AMS Industry/Government Graduate Fellowship (Anthony Sabbatelli), American Meteorological Society [Principal Investigator: M.E. Mann (Penn State Univ.)] $23,000

2006-2009 Climate Change Collective Learning and Observatory Network in Ghana, USAID [Principal Investigator: P. Tschakert; Co-Investigators: M.E. Mann, W. Easterling (Penn State Univ.)] $759,928

2006-2009 Analysis and testing of proxy-based climate reconstructions, NSF-ATM [Principal Investigator: M.E. Mann (Penn State Univ.)] $459,000

2006-2009 Constraining the Tropical Pacific’s Role in Low-Frequency Climate Change of the Last Millennium, NOAA-Climate Change Data & Detection (CCDD) Program [Principal Investigators: K. Cobb (Georgia Tech Univ.), N. Graham (Hydro. Res. Center), M.E. Mann (Penn State Univ.), Hoerling (NOAA Clim. Dyn. Center), Alexander (NOAA Clim. Dyn. Center)] PSU award (M.E. Mann): $68,065

2006-2007 Acquisition of high-performance computing cluster for the Penn State Earth System Science Center (ESSC), NSF-EAR [Principal Investigator: M.E. Mann, Co-Investigators: R. Alley, M. Arthur, J. Evans, D. Pollard (Penn State Univ.)] $100,000

2003-2006 Decadal Variability in the Tropical Indo-Pacific: Integrating Paleo & Coupled Model Results, NOAA-Climate Change Data & Detection (CCDD) Program [Principal Investigators: M.E. Mann (U.Va), J. Cole (U. Arizona), V. Mehta (CRCES)] U.Va award (M.E. Mann): $102,000

2002-2005 Reconstruction and Analysis of Patterns of Climate Variability Over the Last One to Two Millennia, NOAA-Climate Change Data & Detection (CCDD) Program [Principal Investigator: M.E. Mann, Co-Investigators: S. Rutherford, R.S. Bradley, M.K. Hughes] $315,000

2002-2005 Remote Observations of Ice Sheet Surface Temperature: Toward Multi-Proxy Reconstruction of Antarctic Climate Variability, NSF-Office of Polar Programs, Antarctic Oceans and Climate System [Principal Investigators: M.E. Mann (U. Va), E. Steig (U. Wash.), D. Weinbrenner (U. Wash)] U.Va award (M.E. Mann): $133,000

2002-2003 Paleoclimatic Reconstructions of the Arctic Oscillation, NOAA-Cooperative Institute for Arctic Research (CIFAR) Program [Principal Investigators: Rosanne D'Arrigo, Ed Cook (Lamont/Columbia); Co-Investigator: M.E. Mann] U.Va subcontract (M.E. Mann): $14,400

2002-2003 Global Multidecadal-to-Century-Scale Oscillations During the Last 1000 years, NOAA-Climate Change Data & Detection (CCDD) Program [Principal Investigator: Malcolm Hughes (Univ. of Arizona); Co-Investigators: M.E. Mann; J. Park (Yale University)] U.Va subcontract (M.E. Mann): $20,775

2001-2003 Resolving the Scale-wise Sensitivities in the Dynamical Coupling Between Climate and the Biosphere, University of Virginia-Fund for Excellence in Science and Technology (FEST) [Principal Investigator: J.D. Albertson; Co-Investigators: H. Epstein, M.E. Mann] U.Va internal award: $214,700

2001-2002 Advancing predictive models of marine sediment transport, Office of Naval Research [Principal Investigator: P. Wiberg (U.Va), Co-Investigator: M.E. Mann] $20,775

1999-2002 Multiproxy Climate Reconstruction: Extension in Space and Time, and Model/Data Intercomparison, NOAA-Earth Systems History [Principal Investigator: M.E. Mann (U.Va), Co-Investigators: R.S. Bradley, M.K. Hughes] $381,647

1998-2000 Validation of Decadal-to-Multi-century climate predictions, DOE [Principal Investigator: R.S. Bradley (U. Mass); Co-Investigators: H.F. Diaz, M.E. Mann]

1998-2000 The changing seasons? Detecting and understanding climatic change, NSF-Hydrological Science [Principal Investigator U. Lall (U. Utah); Co-investigators: M.E. Mann, B. Rajagopalan, M. Cane] $266,235K

1996-1999 Patterns of Organized Climatic Variability: Spatio-Temporal Analysis of Globally

Distributed Climate Proxy Records and Long-term Model Integrations, NSF-Earth Systems History [Principal Investigator: R.S. Bradley (U. Mass); Co-Investigators: M.E. Mann, M.K. Hughes] $270,000

1996-1998 Investigation of Patterns of Organized Large-Scale Climatic Variability During the Last

Millennium, DOE, Alexander Hollaender Postdoctoral Fellowship [M.E. Mann] $78,000

That is just shy of 6 million dollars....ever see a picture of his house?....any idea what his net worth is?....are either commensurate with the salary of a climate science professor that has no family money?

You've gone back 20 years. Each of those grants names multiple researchers and you've not made the slightest attempt to estimate the cost of actually conducting the research for any of them. Why don't you show us a picture of his house and give us his net worth - perhaps you have his tax return. My brother was a tenured professor. I do have some idea what they make. Why don't you tell us what you think a department head earns.

 

[SSDD]

Right...and the admissions of falsifying data aren't actually admissions either....you are full of shit crick...and attempting to defend the indefensible is just pitiful.

 

[Crick]

when GP is telling you your environmental bullshit is bullshit.....

What's bullshit is contending that Patrick Moore has EVER been anything but a sellout.

 

[Crick]

Right...and the admissions of falsifying data aren't actually admissions either....you are full of shit crick...and attempting to defend the indefensible is just pitiful.

You have some reason to be changing the subject?

 

[Two Thumbs]

when GP is telling you your environmental bullshit is bullshit.....

What's bullshit is contending that Patrick Moore has EVER been anything but a sellout.

so the co-founder of the worlds leading environ group has always been a sellout


your flailing has reached a very high level

 

[Old Rocks]

What money do you think scientists are getting? Research grants? When a scientists get a research grant, the purpose of the grant is to fund the conduct of specified research. The grant is sized to conduct that research and the scientist will have to keep records of his expenditures for his grantor. They do not include large sums of money that the researches gets to simply stick in his pocket and use to buy a new car. If scientists were getting rich from research grants, why wouldn't we see scientists going solo? Why do they maintain employment at universities and large corporations?

You people are SO goddamned stupid!

Why do they maintain employment at universities


Because those 30~80 year old scientist are pervs...Damn how stupid do you think I am? They get to oogle at 18~22 year old coeds all day long



.

Whatever I think concerning your intellect is irrelevant. You just demonstrated for the world to see the level of your intellect.

The seas are rising, Greenland's ice is melting, and the surface of the earth is warming. Simple facts supported by evidence and observations around the world. Just because it disagrees with you dumb ass politics does not change the changes we are seeing one whit. The statements of the Scientific Societies, the Academies of Science, and the major Universities around the world all state that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger.

 

[Old Rocks]

What money do you think scientists are getting? Research grants? When a scientists get a research grant, the purpose of the grant is to fund the conduct of specified research. The grant is sized to conduct that research and the scientist will have to keep records of his expenditures for his grantor. They do not include large sums of money that the researches gets to simply stick in his pocket and use to buy a new car. If scientists were getting rich from research grants, why wouldn't we see scientists going solo? Why do they maintain employment at universities and large corporations?

You people are SO goddamned stupid!

so how do scientist get paid so much?

If their income doesn't come from grants (our money), does it come from the money faerie?

Tenured/Tenure-Track Faculty Salaries
Below are results of the 2012-13 Faculty in Higher Education Salary Survey by Discipline, Rank and Tenure Status in Four-Year Colleges and Universities conducted by The College and University Professional Association for Human Resources (CUPA-HR). Findings reflect the salaries of 184,924 tenured/tenure-track faculty members at 794 institutions nationwide. Salaries were reported by 794 institutions, including 478 private institutions and 316 public institutions, for 31 academic disciplines. View the CUPA-HR press release or order complete survey results.

All Disciplines Combined
Job Title All Institutions Research Doctoral Master's Baccalaureate
Professor $95,224 $115,579 $98,564 $87,008 $82,383
Associate Professor $74,473 $85,135 $76,868 $70,716 $66,107
Assistant Professor $64,414 $74,064 $66,811 $61,253 $56,619
New Assistant Professor $65,372 $74,692 $67,419 $60,814 $56,523 $64,823 $71,567 * $56,666 *

https://www.higheredjobs.com/salary/salaryDisplay.cfm?SurveyID=24

What is your job? Burger flipper in a fast food joint? Because for the last 10 of 12 years I have made over 100K as a millwright in a steel mill. Only the very top end, Research professors make more than I have. And they make only a little more. Hardly high pay for the hours of class time that they put in.

Now as for Micheal Mann's income, he can thank idiots like you for that. Had you not lied and slandered him and his work for years, he would not be in demand as a guest lecturer. And, being a very intelligent man, would it surprise you to find out that maybe he is also a savvy investor?

You 'Conservatives' are such envious little pussies. You get you panties in a knot whenever you see someone that has put in the time and effort to achieve a very high education, and hate the thought that they are getting paid for their effort. So you try to state that you ignorance should be regarded as credible as the decades of study they have put in. LOL

 

[LaDexter]

When a scientists get a research grant, the purpose of the grant is to fund the conduct of specified research.

The "purpose" of climate "science" grants is to push the FRAUD. If your grant does not produce a fraud/fudge filled load of BS pushing the FRAUD, you don't get another grant.

. If scientists were getting rich from research grants, why wouldn't we see scientists going solo?

Because you have to be "part of the team..." The climate "scientists" are rich as hell leeching off the taxpayer. Why? Because nobody in government or media holds them accountable.


The only people in this topic forum who are stupid are the ones who parrot and never question...

 

[Crick]

God are you stupid.

Have you ever even CONSIDERED attempting to reinforce your arguments with logic, reason or (Heaven forbid) EVIDENCE? Your simple, unsupported claims are easier to dismiss then they are for you to make. And dismiss them we do.

 

[Crick]

when GP is telling you your environmental bullshit is bullshit.....

What's bullshit is contending that Patrick Moore has EVER been anything but a sellout.

so the co-founder of the worlds leading environ group has always been a sellout


your flailing has reached a very high level

If you think so, I can only conclude you are actually completely unfamiliar with the history of Patrick Moore. I'd suggest a little reading.

 

[Ridgerunner]

The true measure of the rising of the levels of the worlds oceans is the beach front real estate market... When they start giving beach front property away, I will believe the possibility of the levels rising... Until then it is all just graft and corruption by the elitists... The free market is a wonderful thing...