An Example of How Past Government Policy Has Helped Whites Today

An Example of How Past Government Policy Has Helped Whites Today

Is the title of this thread. I presented not only the GI Bill but several other new deal policies. However the fact remains that whatever "individual rights" existed, black individuals were denied them. Millions of blacks at that. So at what point does the issue become one of group rights? I am quite sure that group rights would be well defined if this matter involved whites getting screwed.

Many blacks that did get VA housing benefits were also redlined and often attacked when househunting. My parents faced that.

Yep. Blacks got thier homes vandalized and bombed by whites.
 
And most of you benefitted from it.

On June 22, 1944 President Roosevelt signed the Servicemen’s Readjustment Act, better known as the G.I. Bill. This law provided benefits for veterans returning from the second World War. Funds were paid for college tuition, low-cost home loans, and unemployment insurance. As in every other program during this time southern congressmen fought passage of these laws unless there were provisions that limited access to blacks. The G.I Bill was no different.

Democratic congressmen in the south fought against provisions of the GI Bill out of fear that returning black veterans might be able to use public support for their war effort to advocate against Jim Crow laws. Southern Democrats using the same tactics they used to make certain other policies in the New Deal helped as few Black people as possible, wanted benefits to be administered by the states. Mississippi Congressman John Rankin was the ringleader in that regard]. He and other Southern Democrats knew doing that would allow southern states to do what each state had been doing since the Civil Rights Cases. That would be states implementing policies full of loopholes and restrictions that would be enforced on blacks but not whites thereby ensuring the GI Bill would primarily benefit whites. Congress gave southern Democrats what they wanted.


Now before I have to hear you republicans sing that sad sorry lie about democrats, remember that republicans voted to give the southern democrats what they wanted. My father served in that war, he was from Louisiana and he did not get the benefits white soldiers got. This impacted my life and so when we speak about reparations, we're talking about policies like this and many others which came after slavery and do more so directly affect blacks living today.









Soooooooo, the FEDERAL law was for all service members, but because certain States didn't have enough university capacity to handle all of the applicants, you somehow blame racism for that.

There aren't enough college slots available NOW for all who are deserving you ignorant twat.
 
"You are delusional. Whites certainly did die to free the slaves."

Wrong. Whites fought to save the union and blacks died in the civil war and every other war. My uncle Billy died to saved whites from Hitler, so drop the dumb shit lady. Besides the OP is about the GI Bill and not slavery.
You are the one who brought up the subject. That is what I responded to dumbass.
 
Whites commit 60 percent of the violent crime every year on average.

What percentage do blacks commit?
less than whites.

Show all the percentages. Don't be shy.

This thread is about what the government gave to whites since slavery and how you have benefited from it. Don't be scared to stay on topic.

You brought up the percentage of violent crimes supposedly committed by whites.

Don't pussy out on me now.
 
It is a shame that we can show some of these whites laws and policies by this government that gave them things while excluding others and they will still deny how much the government has given to whites. It's a shame that some whites here grew up in suburbs in homes built with government money and declare how they have never benefitted from anything. It is pathetic how in any discussion whether slavery is a part of it or not that we have to hear the whining about what you never owned.

What is responsibility white folks? Something for everybody else but you?

I have worked all 59 years of my life, paid or volunteer, on issues affecting blacks. I have fathered no children out of wedlock, but I mentored young black men whose fathers weren't there and some whose fathers were. I have never sold drugs, been in a gang or served time. But I helped create programs and activities to help those at risk. I went to college and earned degrees. Worked for 43 years, never been on welfare and I have to listen or read daily ignorant racist garbage written by a bunch of low foreheaded, uneducated Jethros and Ellie Maes.

I have taken responsibility, none of you racists have. It's time you did so. The government has given you everything you have and that's a fact.
"It is a shame that we can show some of these whites laws and policies by this government that gave them things while excluding others and they will still deny how much the government has given to whites."

You have done no such thing. You said this thread was about the WWII GI benefits and stated that the regs were the same for black and white. "This government" did not exist and neither did you so you missed out on nothing. I also did not exist so I gained nothing even if the if any of conspiracy theory you related had any truth to it.
I have never been given anything because I am white and have in fact been discriminated against because of it. I have also been discriminated against because I was young, because I was a soldier, because I was male and then eventually because I was old. It happens. There is no way to stop it from being a fact of life so you might as well get over it. In fact both the Civil rights acts and affirmative action gave much to blacks that it did not give to whites.

I had many relatives that fought in WWII and at least one bought a house using the GI bill. Unless that era's GI bill was very different from the one I used to help buy a house in the '80s government money did not buy the house. The government only guaranteed that the bank's money which actually paid to build the house would be repaid.

The government has no money that it didn't take from a taxpayer. You expect taxpayers who owe you nothing to give you money because of something that may, or may not, have happened to someone else they have never known let alone abused in any way. Ain't gonna happen.

"...and I have to listen or read daily ignorant racist garbage written by a bunch of low foreheaded, uneducated Jethros and Ellie Maes."

Just like I have to listen to or read daily racist garbage written by a bunch of low foreheaded, delusional Amos and Andies.
 
None of that affected me. And i still have a job. Never killed anyone. And i never whine about self made failure while blaming it on 200,000,000 other people.
Imagine that.
50% of the violent crime in this country is made by like 8 percent of the population. Be a man and own it.
You little whiny bitch.
Is that supposed to be something great? That you haven't killed anyone and "still" have a job? And are you going to tell us next that you've never failed in life?
 
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None of that affected me. And i still have a job. Never killed anyone. And i never whine about self made failure while blaming it on 200,000,000 other people.
Imagine that.
50% of the violent crime in this country is made by like 8 percent of the population. Be a man and own it.
You little whiny bitch.
Is that supposed to be something great? That you haven't killed anyone and "still" have a job? And are you going to tell us next that you've never failed in life?
You missed my point. Which isnt surprising
 
Whites commit 60 percent of the violent crime every year on average.

What percentage do blacks commit?
less than whites.

Show all the percentages. Don't be shy.

This thread is about what the government gave to whites since slavery and how you have benefited from it. Don't be scared to stay on topic.
If you are talking about the GI Bill, not all whites were given this opportunity. You have the same opportunities today as whites. BTW, you don't seem to understand per capita, regarding the violent crimes committed.
 
Racial Preferences for Whites: The Houses That Racism Built
BY LARRY ADELMAN

Thirteen years ago, my parents sold the house I grew up in. It was one of those suburban tract homes that sprouted across the nation after World War II. Our home was pleasant if undistinguished. It wasn't one of Malvina Reynolds' "little boxes made of ticky tacky" - based on a drive the singer took past Daly City, CA in the '50s. It was a ranch house on a curving, leafy street in Merrick, Long Island, 25 miles east of Manhattan, about five miles from its more famous suburban neighbor, Levittown.

After turning 65, my father wasted no time retiring. He'd purchased our house back in 1952 for $20,000 thanks to a 4 percent mortgage made possible by the Veterans Administration. Now he was considering an offer of $300,000. With the money they'd get a place in the Berkshires and winter in Florida.

Ten years later, my colleague here at California Newsreel, Cornelius, sold the house he grew up in. Cornelius' folks had also purchased a place in the early '50s in Chester, just outside Philadelphia. A few years ago, after Cornelius' father passed away, his mother wanted to move back to Virginia. Cornelius sold the home in 2000 - for $29,500.

That $270,500 gap reveals a microcosm of race in America. My family is white and Cornelius' is black.


Houses in bad neighborhoods are worth less. Weird, eh?
Except there was no basis to claim the neighborhood was bad, nor did the writer make the racist assumption you just did.

Except there was no basis to claim the neighborhood was bad,

Sure there was.

As of Census 2010, the racial makeup of the city was 74.7% African American, 17.2% White, 9.0% Hispanic or Latino of any race, 0.6% Asian, 0.4% Native American, 0.1% Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander, 3.9% from other races, and 3.0% from two or more races.

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And most importantly......

Cornelius' folks had also purchased a place in the early '50s in Chester, just outside Philadelphia. A few years ago, after Cornelius' father passed away, his mother wanted to move back to Virginia. Cornelius sold the home in 2000 - for $29,500.
Like I said there was no basis.
 
None of that affected me. And i still have a job. Never killed anyone. And i never whine about self made failure while blaming it on 200,000,000 other people.
Imagine that.
50% of the violent crime in this country is made by like 8 percent of the population. Be a man and own it.
You little whiny bitch.
Is that supposed to be something great? That you haven't killed anyone and "still" have a job? And are you going to tell us next that you've never failed in life?
You missed my point. Which isnt surprising
You're wrong. We get your point. You can't face the truth so you produce the same dried up idiocy thinking that you're insulting somebody. Those days are done. We know that when whites like you can't face the truth you start talking about what you didn't own, what you didn't do, how you never see color, how we need to find a job, how we want something for nothing, how we have failed so we must blame whites and of course, black crime.

The standard white gaslighting. But gaslighting can't beat truth and you have benefited from government handouts that blacks helped pay for and did not get. Either directly or indirectly.
 
Racial Preferences for Whites: The Houses That Racism Built
BY LARRY ADELMAN

Thirteen years ago, my parents sold the house I grew up in. It was one of those suburban tract homes that sprouted across the nation after World War II. Our home was pleasant if undistinguished. It wasn't one of Malvina Reynolds' "little boxes made of ticky tacky" - based on a drive the singer took past Daly City, CA in the '50s. It was a ranch house on a curving, leafy street in Merrick, Long Island, 25 miles east of Manhattan, about five miles from its more famous suburban neighbor, Levittown.

After turning 65, my father wasted no time retiring. He'd purchased our house back in 1952 for $20,000 thanks to a 4 percent mortgage made possible by the Veterans Administration. Now he was considering an offer of $300,000. With the money they'd get a place in the Berkshires and winter in Florida.

Ten years later, my colleague here at California Newsreel, Cornelius, sold the house he grew up in. Cornelius' folks had also purchased a place in the early '50s in Chester, just outside Philadelphia. A few years ago, after Cornelius' father passed away, his mother wanted to move back to Virginia. Cornelius sold the home in 2000 - for $29,500.

That $270,500 gap reveals a microcosm of race in America. My family is white and Cornelius' is black.


Houses in bad neighborhoods are worth less. Weird, eh?
Except there was no basis to claim the neighborhood was bad, nor did the writer make the racist assumption you just did.

Except there was no basis to claim the neighborhood was bad,

Sure there was.

As of Census 2010, the racial makeup of the city was 74.7% African American, 17.2% White, 9.0% Hispanic or Latino of any race, 0.6% Asian, 0.4% Native American, 0.1% Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander, 3.9% from other races, and 3.0% from two or more races.

View attachment 365272

View attachment 365273


And most importantly......

Cornelius' folks had also purchased a place in the early '50s in Chester, just outside Philadelphia. A few years ago, after Cornelius' father passed away, his mother wanted to move back to Virginia. Cornelius sold the home in 2000 - for $29,500.
Like I said there was no basis.

If you have a home in a crime infested neighborhood, it's going to sell for less........

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Clearly.
 
You guys loved this man not long ago.

Robert Johnson's Big Idea: $14 trillion in slavery reparations to African-Americans

Robert Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, says it's time America atones for slavery and systemic racism by paying African-Americans reparations to make them economically equal to white Americans.

Johnson, the first black billionaire in the United States, has put a price tag on the debt America owes to African-Americans at $14 trillion.

"Nobody talks about cash, but black people understand cash," Johnson told Fox News.

Under his proposal, an estimated 40 million African-Americans would get $350,000 in direct cash payments over 30 years (costing the average taxpayer roughly $2,900 a year, according to his office). The $350,000 would signify the wealth disparity between African-Americans and white Americans.

To say this is controversial is an understatement. Some Democratic lawmakers have warmed to the discussion, but often in the form of commissions and other partial measures. A Fox News poll last year found most Americans are opposed to cash reparations. And with the government already spending trillions on coronavirus relief and the national debt pushing past $26 trillion, concerns about the country's fiscal stability would pose an obvious hurdle.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said last year of the idea: "I think we're always a work in progress in this country, but no one currently alive was responsible for that, and I don't think we should be trying to figure out how to compensate for it."

Johnson contends white Americans built generations of wealth on the backs of slave labor, and black people will never be able to catch up in wealth unless they are paid this debt.

"You want a big idea: white America, what would happen if you said, 'please forgive us and accept our apology. And by the way, we think we owe you what was taken from you for over 300 years of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation and denial of economic opportunity and rights," Johnson said.


Now I want to see one of you whites tell me how this man is blaming whitey for his failures.

:laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301:
 
You guys loved this man not long ago.

Robert Johnson's Big Idea: $14 trillion in slavery reparations to African-Americans

Robert Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, says it's time America atones for slavery and systemic racism by paying African-Americans reparations to make them economically equal to white Americans.

Johnson, the first black billionaire in the United States, has put a price tag on the debt America owes to African-Americans at $14 trillion.

"Nobody talks about cash, but black people understand cash," Johnson told Fox News.

Under his proposal, an estimated 40 million African-Americans would get $350,000 in direct cash payments over 30 years (costing the average taxpayer roughly $2,900 a year, according to his office). The $350,000 would signify the wealth disparity between African-Americans and white Americans.

To say this is controversial is an understatement. Some Democratic lawmakers have warmed to the discussion, but often in the form of commissions and other partial measures. A Fox News poll last year found most Americans are opposed to cash reparations. And with the government already spending trillions on coronavirus relief and the national debt pushing past $26 trillion, concerns about the country's fiscal stability would pose an obvious hurdle.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said last year of the idea: "I think we're always a work in progress in this country, but no one currently alive was responsible for that, and I don't think we should be trying to figure out how to compensate for it."

Johnson contends white Americans built generations of wealth on the backs of slave labor, and black people will never be able to catch up in wealth unless they are paid this debt.

"You want a big idea: white America, what would happen if you said, 'please forgive us and accept our apology. And by the way, we think we owe you what was taken from you for over 300 years of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation and denial of economic opportunity and rights," Johnson said.


Now I want to see one of you whites tell me how this man is blaming whitey for his failures.

:laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301:
Under his proposal, an estimated 40 million African-Americans would get $350,000 in direct cash payments over 30 years (costing the average taxpayer roughly $2,900 a year, according to his office). The $350,000 would signify the wealth disparity between African-Americans and white Americans.

LOL!

I'd be willing to spend $2900 and a one-way airline ticket to anyone who wants
to renounce their citizenship.
 
You guys loved this man not long ago.

Robert Johnson's Big Idea: $14 trillion in slavery reparations to African-Americans

Robert Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, says it's time America atones for slavery and systemic racism by paying African-Americans reparations to make them economically equal to white Americans.

Johnson, the first black billionaire in the United States, has put a price tag on the debt America owes to African-Americans at $14 trillion.

"Nobody talks about cash, but black people understand cash," Johnson told Fox News.

Under his proposal, an estimated 40 million African-Americans would get $350,000 in direct cash payments over 30 years (costing the average taxpayer roughly $2,900 a year, according to his office). The $350,000 would signify the wealth disparity between African-Americans and white Americans.

To say this is controversial is an understatement. Some Democratic lawmakers have warmed to the discussion, but often in the form of commissions and other partial measures. A Fox News poll last year found most Americans are opposed to cash reparations. And with the government already spending trillions on coronavirus relief and the national debt pushing past $26 trillion, concerns about the country's fiscal stability would pose an obvious hurdle.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said last year of the idea: "I think we're always a work in progress in this country, but no one currently alive was responsible for that, and I don't think we should be trying to figure out how to compensate for it."

Johnson contends white Americans built generations of wealth on the backs of slave labor, and black people will never be able to catch up in wealth unless they are paid this debt.

"You want a big idea: white America, what would happen if you said, 'please forgive us and accept our apology. And by the way, we think we owe you what was taken from you for over 300 years of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation and denial of economic opportunity and rights," Johnson said.


Now I want to see one of you whites tell me how this man is blaming whitey for his failures.

:laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301:
Under his proposal, an estimated 40 million African-Americans would get $350,000 in direct cash payments over 30 years (costing the average taxpayer roughly $2,900 a year, according to his office). The $350,000 would signify the wealth disparity between African-Americans and white Americans.

LOL!

I'd be willing to spend $2900 and a one-way airline ticket to anyone who wants
to renounce their citizenship.
You will be paying back a debt owed and nobody's leaving. Unless you want to.
 
You guys loved this man not long ago.

Robert Johnson's Big Idea: $14 trillion in slavery reparations to African-Americans

Robert Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, says it's time America atones for slavery and systemic racism by paying African-Americans reparations to make them economically equal to white Americans.

Johnson, the first black billionaire in the United States, has put a price tag on the debt America owes to African-Americans at $14 trillion.

"Nobody talks about cash, but black people understand cash," Johnson told Fox News.

Under his proposal, an estimated 40 million African-Americans would get $350,000 in direct cash payments over 30 years (costing the average taxpayer roughly $2,900 a year, according to his office). The $350,000 would signify the wealth disparity between African-Americans and white Americans.

To say this is controversial is an understatement. Some Democratic lawmakers have warmed to the discussion, but often in the form of commissions and other partial measures. A Fox News poll last year found most Americans are opposed to cash reparations. And with the government already spending trillions on coronavirus relief and the national debt pushing past $26 trillion, concerns about the country's fiscal stability would pose an obvious hurdle.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said last year of the idea: "I think we're always a work in progress in this country, but no one currently alive was responsible for that, and I don't think we should be trying to figure out how to compensate for it."

Johnson contends white Americans built generations of wealth on the backs of slave labor, and black people will never be able to catch up in wealth unless they are paid this debt.

"You want a big idea: white America, what would happen if you said, 'please forgive us and accept our apology. And by the way, we think we owe you what was taken from you for over 300 years of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation and denial of economic opportunity and rights," Johnson said.


Now I want to see one of you whites tell me how this man is blaming whitey for his failures.

:laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301:
Under his proposal, an estimated 40 million African-Americans would get $350,000 in direct cash payments over 30 years (costing the average taxpayer roughly $2,900 a year, according to his office). The $350,000 would signify the wealth disparity between African-Americans and white Americans.

LOL!

I'd be willing to spend $2900 and a one-way airline ticket to anyone who wants
to renounce their citizenship.
You will be paying back a debt owed and nobody's leaving. Unless you want to.

You will be paying back a debt owed

Sorry, I have no such debt.

and nobody's leaving

Then no $2900.
 
Racial Preferences for Whites: The Houses That Racism Built
BY LARRY ADELMAN

Thirteen years ago, my parents sold the house I grew up in. It was one of those suburban tract homes that sprouted across the nation after World War II. Our home was pleasant if undistinguished. It wasn't one of Malvina Reynolds' "little boxes made of ticky tacky" - based on a drive the singer took past Daly City, CA in the '50s. It was a ranch house on a curving, leafy street in Merrick, Long Island, 25 miles east of Manhattan, about five miles from its more famous suburban neighbor, Levittown.

After turning 65, my father wasted no time retiring. He'd purchased our house back in 1952 for $20,000 thanks to a 4 percent mortgage made possible by the Veterans Administration. Now he was considering an offer of $300,000. With the money they'd get a place in the Berkshires and winter in Florida.

Ten years later, my colleague here at California Newsreel, Cornelius, sold the house he grew up in. Cornelius' folks had also purchased a place in the early '50s in Chester, just outside Philadelphia. A few years ago, after Cornelius' father passed away, his mother wanted to move back to Virginia. Cornelius sold the home in 2000 - for $29,500.

That $270,500 gap reveals a microcosm of race in America. My family is white and Cornelius' is black.


Houses in bad neighborhoods are worth less. Weird, eh?
Except there was no basis to claim the neighborhood was bad, nor did the writer make the racist assumption you just did.

Except there was no basis to claim the neighborhood was bad,

Sure there was.

As of Census 2010, the racial makeup of the city was 74.7% African American, 17.2% White, 9.0% Hispanic or Latino of any race, 0.6% Asian, 0.4% Native American, 0.1% Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander, 3.9% from other races, and 3.0% from two or more races.

View attachment 365272

View attachment 365273


And most importantly......

Cornelius' folks had also purchased a place in the early '50s in Chester, just outside Philadelphia. A few years ago, after Cornelius' father passed away, his mother wanted to move back to Virginia. Cornelius sold the home in 2000 - for $29,500.
Like I said there was no basis.

If you have a home in a crime infested neighborhood, it's going to sell for less........

View attachment 365537

Clearly.
Yawn! Keep looking for excuses. We know what redlining has done. I know that the claim of black communities being bad is baseless, especially when more crime/addiction/alcoholism happens in white communities.
 
You guys loved this man not long ago.

Robert Johnson's Big Idea: $14 trillion in slavery reparations to African-Americans

Robert Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, says it's time America atones for slavery and systemic racism by paying African-Americans reparations to make them economically equal to white Americans.

Johnson, the first black billionaire in the United States, has put a price tag on the debt America owes to African-Americans at $14 trillion.

"Nobody talks about cash, but black people understand cash," Johnson told Fox News.

Under his proposal, an estimated 40 million African-Americans would get $350,000 in direct cash payments over 30 years (costing the average taxpayer roughly $2,900 a year, according to his office). The $350,000 would signify the wealth disparity between African-Americans and white Americans.

To say this is controversial is an understatement. Some Democratic lawmakers have warmed to the discussion, but often in the form of commissions and other partial measures. A Fox News poll last year found most Americans are opposed to cash reparations. And with the government already spending trillions on coronavirus relief and the national debt pushing past $26 trillion, concerns about the country's fiscal stability would pose an obvious hurdle.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., said last year of the idea: "I think we're always a work in progress in this country, but no one currently alive was responsible for that, and I don't think we should be trying to figure out how to compensate for it."

Johnson contends white Americans built generations of wealth on the backs of slave labor, and black people will never be able to catch up in wealth unless they are paid this debt.

"You want a big idea: white America, what would happen if you said, 'please forgive us and accept our apology. And by the way, we think we owe you what was taken from you for over 300 years of slavery, Jim Crow, segregation and denial of economic opportunity and rights," Johnson said.


Now I want to see one of you whites tell me how this man is blaming whitey for his failures.

:laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301: :laughing0301:
Under his proposal, an estimated 40 million African-Americans would get $350,000 in direct cash payments over 30 years (costing the average taxpayer roughly $2,900 a year, according to his office). The $350,000 would signify the wealth disparity between African-Americans and white Americans.

LOL!

I'd be willing to spend $2900 and a one-way airline ticket to anyone who wants
to renounce their citizenship.
You will be paying back a debt owed and nobody's leaving. Unless you want to.

You will be paying back a debt owed

Sorry, I have no such debt.

and nobody's leaving

Then no $2900.
You do have the debt and when you pay it nobody's leaving. That's $2,900 per year for 30 years son.
 

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