American servicemember reportedly shoots, kills Afghan civilians ...

Afghan president: American kills 16 in shooting - Yahoo! News


Sounds like total muslim bullshit to me.


BALANDI, Afghanistan (AP) — President Hamid Karzai said a U.S. service member killed 16 people — nine of them children and three women — in a shooting spree Sunday that he condemned as "an assassination."
Karzai demanded an explanation from the United States, adding new tensions to a relationship already severely strained over Americans burning Muslim holy books on a base in Afghanistan. The burnings sparked violent protests and attacks that left some 30 people dead. Six U.S. service members have been killed in attacks by their Afghan colleagues since the Quran burnings came to light, but the violence has just started to calm down.
"This is an assassination, an intentional killing of innocent civilians and cannot be forgiven," Karzai said in a statement. He said he has repeatedly demanded the U.S. stop killing Afghan civilians.
Five people were wounded in the pre-dawn attack in Kandahar province, including a 15-year-old boy named Rafiullah who was shot in the leg and spoke to the president over the telephone. He described how the American soldier entered his house in the middle of the night, woke up his family and began shooting them, according to Karzai's statement.
NATO officials apologized for the shootings but did not confirm that anyone was killed, referring instead to reports of deaths.



Another fucking lie that people just assumed is true b/c it involves OUR servicemen.



Go fuck yourselves.
FOXnews is reporting on it with a quote from a USAF source:

US Soldier Accused Of Shooting Afghans, Reportedly Killing At Least 16 | Fox News
 
Sorry bout that,


1. Seems one of the good guys goes *Afghan* on some civilians in Afghanistan.
2. Recently the Afghans attacked and killed 6 Americans, along with 24 of their own over some silly *Korack* burnings.
3. Thats insane.
4. So, today, an American decides to *payback*, and wanders into some village and starts shooting people randomly.
5. Its really about time we leave this place.
6. Thinking we can reach these barbarians is insane itself.
7. Giving them the vote won't matter when whoever they vote for is a evil bastard, so democracy won't help in the least guys, *guys* meaning the American Government.
8. LINK:BBC News - US soldier kills Afghan civilians in Kandahar


"He left his military base in the early hours of the morning and opened fire in at least two homes; women and children were among the dead.

Nato said it was investigating the "deeply regrettable incident".

Anti-US sentiment is already high in Afghanistan after US soldiers burnt copies of the Koran last month.

US officials have apologised repeatedly for the incident at a Nato base in Kabul, but they failed to quell a series of protests and attacks that killed at least 30 people and six US troops.


9. Apologizing won't do anything either guys.
10. Lets get out, its time, *NOW*!!!!!!!

Regards,
SirJamesofTexas
 
No amount of Obama apologies will be enough to make this one right. Why are we still in Afghanistan? It's been so long, most don't even remember why we went there in the first place. This is a terrible and completely unnecessary tragedy. It's what happens when you put Soldiers in an No-Win situation. The Longest War is over. Time to come home.


A US soldier in Afghanistan has killed at least 16 civilians and wounded five after entering their homes in Kandahar province, senior local officials say.

He left his military base in the early hours of the morning and opened fire in at least two homes; women and children were among the dead. Nato said it was investigating the "deeply regrettable incident". Anti-US sentiment is already high in Afghanistan after US soldiers burnt copies of the Koran last month. US officials have apologised repeatedly for the incident at a Nato base in Kabul, but they failed to quell a series of protests and attacks that killed at least 30 people and six US troops.

Local people have reportedly gathered near the base in Panjwai district to protest about Sunday's killings, and the US embassy is advising against travel to the area. Lt Gen Adrian Bradshaw, deputy commander of Nato-led forces, said he was unable to "explain the motivation behind such callous acts", adding that "our thoughts and prayers are with those caught in this tragedy".

'Propaganda victory'

He is reported to have walked off his base at around 03:00 local time (22:30 GMT Saturday) and headed to nearby villages, moving methodically from house to house.

"Eleven members of my family are dead. They are all dead," Haji Samad, an elder from Najeeban village, told the AFP news agency.

Haji Sayed Jan, from Alkozai village, was quoted by the AFP as saying: "My home was attacked and I lost four family members".

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Why is rogue in quotes?
 
Moron.

There is already a thread on this.

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No amount of Obama apologies will be enough to make this one right. Why are we still in Afghanistan? It's been so long, most don't even remember why we went there in the first place. This is a terrible and completely unnecessary tragedy. It's what happens when you put Soldiers in an No-Win situation. The Longest War is over. Time to come home.


A US soldier in Afghanistan has killed at least 16 civilians and wounded five after entering their homes in Kandahar province, senior local officials say.

He left his military base in the early hours of the morning and opened fire in at least two homes; women and children were among the dead. Nato said it was investigating the "deeply regrettable incident". Anti-US sentiment is already high in Afghanistan after US soldiers burnt copies of the Koran last month. US officials have apologised repeatedly for the incident at a Nato base in Kabul, but they failed to quell a series of protests and attacks that killed at least 30 people and six US troops.

Local people have reportedly gathered near the base in Panjwai district to protest about Sunday's killings, and the US embassy is advising against travel to the area. Lt Gen Adrian Bradshaw, deputy commander of Nato-led forces, said he was unable to "explain the motivation behind such callous acts", adding that "our thoughts and prayers are with those caught in this tragedy".

'Propaganda victory'

He is reported to have walked off his base at around 03:00 local time (22:30 GMT Saturday) and headed to nearby villages, moving methodically from house to house.

"Eleven members of my family are dead. They are all dead," Haji Samad, an elder from Najeeban village, told the AFP news agency.

Haji Sayed Jan, from Alkozai village, was quoted by the AFP as saying: "My home was attacked and I lost four family members".

Read More:
BBC News - US soldier kills Afghan civilians in Kandahar
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

A certain tragedy. However when you think you can be nice in killing people these thing will happen. Soldiers are not policemen and should not be expected to conduct themselves that way, it is not how they are trained.
 
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Western forces shot dead 16 civilians including nine children in southern Kandahar province on Sunday, Afghan officials said, in a rampage that witnesses said was carried out by American soldiers who were laughing and appeared drunk.

One Afghan father who said his children were killed in the shooting spree accused soldiers of later burning the bodies.

Witnesses told Reuters they saw a group of U.S. soldiers arrive at their village in Kandahar's Panjwayi district at around 2 am, enter homes and open fire.

The incident, one of the worst of its kind since the U.S.-led invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, is likely to deepen the divide between Washington and Kabul.

The U.S. embassy in Kabul said an American soldier had been detained over the shooting. It added that anti-U.S. reprisals were possible following the killings, which come just weeks after U.S. soldiers burned copies of the Koran at a NATO base, triggering widespread anti-Western protests.

Afghan President Hamid Karzai condemned the rampage as "intentional murders" and demanded an explanation from the United States. His office said the dead included nine children and three women.

An Afghan minister earlier told Reuters that a lone U.S. soldier had killed up to 16 people when he burst into homes in villages near his base in the middle of the night.

Western forces kill 16 civilians in Afghanistan: Kabul government | Reuters
 
No amount of Obama apologies will be enough to make this one right. Why are we still in Afghanistan? It's been so long, most don't even remember why we went there in the first place. This is a terrible and completely unnecessary tragedy. It's what happens when you put Soldiers in an No-Win situation. The Longest War is over. Time to come home.


A US soldier in Afghanistan has killed at least 16 civilians and wounded five after entering their homes in Kandahar province, senior local officials say.

He left his military base in the early hours of the morning and opened fire in at least two homes; women and children were among the dead. Nato said it was investigating the "deeply regrettable incident". Anti-US sentiment is already high in Afghanistan after US soldiers burnt copies of the Koran last month. US officials have apologised repeatedly for the incident at a Nato base in Kabul, but they failed to quell a series of protests and attacks that killed at least 30 people and six US troops.

Local people have reportedly gathered near the base in Panjwai district to protest about Sunday's killings, and the US embassy is advising against travel to the area. Lt Gen Adrian Bradshaw, deputy commander of Nato-led forces, said he was unable to "explain the motivation behind such callous acts", adding that "our thoughts and prayers are with those caught in this tragedy".

'Propaganda victory'

He is reported to have walked off his base at around 03:00 local time (22:30 GMT Saturday) and headed to nearby villages, moving methodically from house to house.

"Eleven members of my family are dead. They are all dead," Haji Samad, an elder from Najeeban village, told the AFP news agency.

Haji Sayed Jan, from Alkozai village, was quoted by the AFP as saying: "My home was attacked and I lost four family members".

Read More:
BBC News - US soldier kills Afghan civilians in Kandahar
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Why is rogue in quotes?
I do not know but Afghanistani news reporting is was SOLDIERS on a drunken spree is a BIG problem. Gen. Allen appears to have confirmed deaths; President Obama has expressed concern:

WASHINGTON (AP) &#8212; Senior U.S. officials were scrambling Sunday to determine what caused an American Army soldier to leave his base in southern Afghanistan and allegedly gun down as many as 16 Afghans in the early morning weekend hours.
Officials confirmed that the soldier was being detained in Kandahar and that the military was treating at least five wounded. One U.S. official said the soldier, an Army staff sergeant, was believed to have acted alone.
Gen. John Allen, the top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, issued a statement pledging a "rapid and thorough investigation" into the shooting spree, and said the soldier will remain in U.S. custody.
The shootings come at a particularly sensitive and critical time for the U.S., just as violence over the burning of Muslim holy books at a U.S. base was starting to calm down. And it could further fuel calls for a more rapid withdrawal of U.S. troops from Afghanistan.
The destruction of Qurans in a fire pit used to burn garbage last month sparked violent protests that killed some 30 people. And six U.S. service members were killed in attacks by Afghan security forces since the incident, which U.S. officials have apologized for and said was accidental.
Allen, in his statement, offered his regret and "deepest condolences" to the Afghan people for the Sunday shootings, and vowed that he will make sure that "anyone who is found to have committed wrong-doing is held fully accountable."
"This deeply appalling incident in no way represents the values of (International Security Assistance Force) and coalition troops or the abiding respect we feel for the Afghan people," said Allen. "Nor does it impugn or diminish the spirit of cooperation and partnership we have worked so hard to foster with the Afghan National Security Forces."
Caitlin Hayden, a spokeswoman for the White House National Security Council, said that President Barack Obama was briefed on the shooting incident. She said, "we are deeply concerned by the initial reports of this incident, and are monitoring the situation closely."
Defense Secretary Leon Panetta also has been informed.
Afghan officials reported that 16 people were killed including nine children and three women.
Copyright © 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
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What this will lead to is the question.
 
If the military finds him guilty he should be turned over to the Afghans for punishment.
Or do we not respect their sovernty as a nation with an elected government?
 
apparently, someone snapped. On one hand I am not altogether surprised, over the last 10 years, considering the recent events and events in the past that had caused reprisal killings committed by Afghans, donning amercian uniforms to slip into bases,commit sabotage etc etc ....

The Military Judicial system will swing into action and if it is as appears, he must be punished.




BALANDI, Afghanistan (AP) – A U.S. service member walked out of a base in southern Afghanistan before dawn Sunday and started shooting Afghan civilians, according to villagers and Afghan and NATO officials. Villagers showed an Associated Press photographer 15 bodies, including women and children, who they said were killed by the American.

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American servicemember reportedly shoots, kills Afghan civilians

This is going to be bad........
 
A lone US soldier went on a rampage, killing at 16, possibly more, Afghanistanis in their homes; Reuters is reporting that IN Afghanistan, it is being reported as US SOLDIERS drunk, and laughing, carried out the killings. Should Obama speak on this today or soon, or ignore it. Sincere question here. broadcast

can you link to that account please.
Link:

Western forces kill 16 civilians in Afghanistan: Kabul government | Reuters

I have a major problem with article.....I am going to bookmark this and if this isn't so ala drunk laughing "soldiers" as opposed to one, and whats with the "western forces" btw? . Reuters needs to fold their tent,...this sounds like they just took eye witness accounts and published them as headlines...neither the BBC or CNN have references to drunk soldeirS...



By Ahmad Nadem

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan | Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:38am EDT

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (Reuters) - Western forces shot dead 16 civilians including nine children in southern Kandahar province on Sunday, Afghan officials said, in a rampage that witnesses said was carried out by American soldiers who were laughing and appeared drunk.


Western forces kill 16 civilians in Afghanistan: Kabul government | Reuters
 
apparently, someone snapped. On one hand I am not altogether surprised, over the last 10 years, considering the recent events and events in the past that had caused reprisal killings committed by Afghans, donning amercian uniforms to slip into bases,commit sabotage etc etc ....

The Military Judicial system will swing into action and if it is as appears, he must be punished.




BALANDI, Afghanistan (AP) &#8211; A U.S. service member walked out of a base in southern Afghanistan before dawn Sunday and started shooting Afghan civilians, according to villagers and Afghan and NATO officials. Villagers showed an Associated Press photographer 15 bodies, including women and children, who they said were killed by the American.

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American servicemember reportedly shoots, kills Afghan civilians

This is going to be bad........

you said it....at this point any organized/systemic Political/Military phased withdrawal is, well, forget it,
 

I have a major problem with article.....I am going to bookmark this and if this isn't so ala drunk laughing "soldiers" as opposed to one, and whats with the "western forces" btw? . Reuters needs to fold their tent,...this sounds like they just took eye witness accounts and published them as headlines...neither the BBC or CNN have references to drunk soldeirS...



By Ahmad Nadem

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan | Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:38am EDT

KANDAHAR, Afghanistan (Reuters) - Western forces shot dead 16 civilians including nine children in southern Kandahar province on Sunday, Afghan officials said, in a rampage that witnesses said was carried out by American soldiers who were laughing and appeared drunk.


Western forces kill 16 civilians in Afghanistan: Kabul government | Reuters
It is Reuters reporting what an Afghani paper is reporting; beyond bad, nearing a crisis. Afghanis killed US troops for the burning of the Koran. This may be much, much worse, to put it mildly.
 
A lone US soldier went on a rampage, killing at 16, possibly more, Afghanistanis in their homes; Reuters is reporting that IN Afghanistan, it is being reported as US SOLDIERS drunk, and laughing, carried out the killings. Should Obama speak on this today or soon, or ignore it. Sincere question here. broadcast

I don't think it helps the situation for the CINC to get immediately involved. Just my gut.

If this soldier is guilty of this, he has committed 16 counts of murder and deserves execution.
 
Might wanna get the whole story before you rush to judgement. Could be mental/psychological issues here. Too many deployments, too much stress, not saying that's the case here but it used to be we reserved judgement until we at least knew what happened.
 

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