all you obama haters etc....

[WillowTree]

Why would I want to give Obama the benefit of the doubt when everything about him generates doubt:

He has no executive experience of any kind

He has associated with radicals his whole life

He has no loyalty to those he has previously called friends and mentors

There are serious doubts as to his meeting the constitutional requirements to be POTUS

He attended and exposed his children to a church full of cheering racists and America haters Then he lied saying he didn't know what his pastor was saying
He is now appointing the same people who brought us the tech bubble bust, the Enron, Tyco, Worldcom, Global Crossing, etc. fiascoes and recession

He was willing to surrender Iraq to al Qaeda and certain civil war

He says one thing to one group of people and another thing to another group of people

He was the most liberal senator in a group of extreme liberals

He defended infanticide and then denied doing so

He is not upfront about what he plans to do with NAFTA, telling unions one thing, and Canadian officials another Absolutely

He wants to bring foreign terrorists to America to be tried with constitutional guarantees

His "new tone" equals mocking a former first lady for something she never did in his very first press conference as president elect

He claimed the constitution is defective

He wants to institute censorship of conservatives through a program called localization I did not know this? Where can I read about it?

He wants to rescind union secret ballot voting and allow unions to intimidate those who do not support them Terrible

He is willing to talk with totalitarian leaders without requirements, giving them equal standing to allies

He wants to reduce military spending when it needs to be increased

He will not support energy independence

He believes in instituting a carbon cap and trade system and raising taxes that will hamper any likelihood of an economic recovery

He wants to institute a universal health care program that has proven to be a disaster wherever it has been tried

He won't allow access or inquiry about:

His registration to attend school in Indonesia
His trip to Pakistan when entry with an American passport was not allowed
His student grades
His student writings
His attendance at socialist conferences
His accomplishments as a "community organizer"
His legal cases
His legislative records
His small donors list
His medical records
His Annenberg Challenge records without them being sanitized first
His connection to Raila Odinga, the Kenyan election and the hundreds of murders by Odinga's supporters
His past associations
His attendance of supposedly an innocent dinner party

Again I ask - why the hell would I want to give this guy the benifit of the doubt? Why would anyone?

(Also see my signature.)

 

[Annie]

Why would I want to give Obama the benefit of the doubt when everything about him generates doubt:

He has no executive experience of any kind

He has associated with radicals his whole life

He has no loyalty to those he has previously called friends and mentors

There are serious doubts as to his meeting the constitutional requirements to be POTUS

He attended and exposed his children to a church full of cheering racists and America haters

He is now appointing the same people who brought us the tech bubble bust, the Enron, Tyco, Worldcom, Global Crossing, etc. fiascoes and recession

He was willing to surrender Iraq to al Qaeda and certain civil war

He says one thing to one group of people and another thing to another group of people

He was the most liberal senator in a group of extreme liberals

He defended infanticide and then denied doing so

He is not upfront about what he plans to do with NAFTA, telling unions one thing, and Canadian officials another

He wants to bring foreign terrorists to America to be tried with constitutional guarantees

His "new tone" equals mocking a former first lady for something she never did in his very first press conference as president elect

He claimed the constitution is defective

He wants to institute censorship of conservatives through a program called localization

He wants to rescind union secret ballot voting and allow unions to intimidate those who do not support them

He is willing to talk with totalitarian leaders without requirements, giving them equal standing to allies

He wants to reduce military spending when it needs to be increased

He will not support energy independence

He believes in instituting a carbon cap and trade system and raising taxes that will hamper any likelihood of an economic recovery

He wants to institute a universal health care program that has proven to be a disaster wherever it has been tried

He won't allow access or inquiry about:

His registration to attend school in Indonesia
His trip to Pakistan when entry with an American passport was not allowed
His student grades
His student writings
His attendance at socialist conferences
His accomplishments as a "community organizer"
His legal cases
His legislative records
His small donors list
His medical records
His Annenberg Challenge records without them being sanitized first
His connection to Raila Odinga, the Kenyan election and the hundreds of murders by Odinga's supporters
His past associations
His attendance of supposedly an innocent dinner party

Again I ask - why the hell would I want to give this guy the benifit of the doubt? Why would anyone?

(Also see my signature.)

Because he was elected President by more than 50% of the people and an even larger electoral vote?

 

[Gord]

Because he was elected President by more than 50% of the people and an even larger electoral vote?

John Ziegler has proven that Obama voters were ignorant of all of these things. Had the mainstream press done their job and informed voters about Obama he would have lost in a landslide.

But what about you? Are you telling me you can overlook this incredible list of defficiencies in Obama and still be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt?

 

[WillowTree]

Because he was elected President by more than 50% of the people and an even larger electoral vote?

If that were a good enough reason then all the liberals would have supported Bush. Nope,, Obamalama has a long long list of grievences.. there is no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Isolde]

the bumperstickers says "dissent is the highest form of patriotism"

I was paraphrasing. Actually, I try to keep my mind on driving instead of reading all their silly bumper stickers.

 

[Annie]

If that were a good enough reason then all the liberals would have supported Bush. Nope,, Obamalama has a long long list of grievences.. there is no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I really am an American first, not a partisan. That doesn't mean I can't disagree, but I think it important to respect the office, even the holder of office against outside attacks.

 

[Gord]

He wants to institute censorship of conservatives through a program called localization I did not know this? Where can I read about it?

Try a search with:

localization fairness doctrine

 

[Lycurgus]

Try a search with:

localization fairness doctrine

You know Gord it's funny, the liberals have had and do have the same opportunity at the radio shows and they have some and have tried having many. The simple fact is, in the open market, they don't get listened to as much, drop in ratings and the local stations drop their format.

So since the public doesn't want them as much, they will force it on the public with the fairness doctrine. So through a government mandate, the government becomes a partner with the radio stations!

Hmmmmm............. I wonder, does that mean that the government will help them pay the rent, utilities, payroll and so on? LOL

When my state mandated me to stop marketing to smokers, I sent them a letter asking when they were going to begin picking up their half of the tab of overhead since they are now my business partner. Funny thing, they never replied.

In my case as directed to my type of business I see it as socialism.

In regard to the media outlets, I see it as communism.

 

[Gord]

You know Gord it's funny, the liberals have had and do have the same opportunity at the radio shows and they have some and have tried having many. The simple fact is, in the open market, they don't get listened to as much, drop in ratings and the local stations drop their format.

So since the public doesn't want them as much, they will force it on the public with the fairness doctrine. So through a government mandate, the government becomes a partner with the radio stations!

Hmmmmm............. I wonder, does that mean that the government will help them pay the rent, utilities, payroll and so on? LOL

When my state mandated me to stop marketing to smokers, I sent them a letter asking when they were going to begin picking up their half of the tab of overhead since they are now my business partner. Funny thing, they never replied.

In my case as directed to my type of business I see it as socialism.

In regard to the media outlets, I see it as communism.

Yep - it's always done for our own good. And it always ends up being worse than doing nothing...

 

[Silence]

Then you saw what you wanted to instead of what was. Bush tried and got the finger. Give ME the finger after I offer the olive branch and I'll say "fuck you" too.

Perhaps you can give me examples of Bush's attempts to unite the parties since clearly I wasn't paying attention. if you can provide those I'll gladly admit my mistake in saying that Bush was partisan from the moment he was sworn in.

 

[Silence]

If that were a good enough reason then all the liberals would have supported Bush. Nope,, Obamalama has a long long list of grievences.. there is no reason to give him the benefit of the doubt.

except in 2000 he lost the popular vote and won the EV by getting a mere 537 more votes in FL and that election had to be decided by the supreme court.

 

[chloe]

That's BS. And I'm going to do some lib-quoting here: It is the right and responsibility of ALL Americans to voice political dissent. If I ideologically oppose the President, then I'm supporting what he wants to do, nor am I going to remain quiet about it.

THAT ideal doesn't apply only to libs when a Republican is President. It is a Right guaranteed by the US Constitution and I intend to exercise mine like a liberal.

It is NOT BS, because I am basing it on what I already defined MY definition of support is, I have prefaced to say I dont agree with ANY politician 100 percent. My version of the support I was talking about is in my own spiritual belief of prayer and I don't give a rats ass who is President when I am coming from a prayerful perspective. I ALWAYS pray for our countries safety and economic prosperity. Obama has not been sworn in as President and when he is sworn in and if his policies go into effect that I don't agree with I will voice my own opinion about it. Just as I have when I didnt agree with things he said while campaigning. However, I read in one of the threads he has already backed off a bit on raising taxes, so I will wait and see what happens thats called "benefit of the doubt" for me. I certainly wouldnt censor your right or anyone elses to speak there mind speak of dissent or disagree with his or any other Presidents policies. I have a right to my opinions as well and a right to give benefit of doubt if I want to.

 

[Ravi]

Did I miss this big appeal in 2000 calling for uniting the parties?

No, you didn't miss it because it never happened. The Bush supporters spent eight long years questioning the patriotism of anyone that disagreed with Bush's policies, insisting they recite the pledge to prove their love of America, or just calling them traitors and terrorist supporters.

They're assholes, IMO.

 

[Gord]

Lunch at the White House Proves No Big Draw

President Bush marked his first 100 days in office with a White House luncheon today to which all 535 members of Congress were invited.

"I know we always don't agree," he said. "But we're beginning to get a spirit here in Washington where we're more agreeable, where we're setting a different tone." - president Bush

On Sunday, Mr. Gephardt waved off the invitation and disparaged the idea that bipartisanship had broken out in Washington.

"We don't talk, we don't negotiate, we don't really collaborate and work together on these policies," he said then on the CBS News television program "Face the Nation."

Emerging from the luncheon, where the president had table- hopped, Mr. Armey cast the stay- away Democrats as ungrateful.

"A romance has got to be reciprocal," he told reporters on the White House driveway. "If I were the president, I'd be starting to get courtship fatigue. How much can you pursue these guys and have them continue to complain that you're not pursuing them?"

 

[Xenophon]

I don't wish that he does poorly, i expect it.

 

[WillowTree]

except in 2000 he lost the popular vote and won the EV by getting a mere 537 more votes in FL and that election had to be decided by the supreme court.

the point is he did get the decision, and liberals have been bitching since that time..

 

[rayboyusmc]

Remind me how you demanded everyone unite behind Bush. When was the last time you called to task the liberal turds on this board attacking Bush and Cheney? Claiming they were not loyal Americans for disagreeing with Bush or the Republican Executive Branch?

We didn't attack his policies until he started using 9-11 as an excuse to get what ever he wanted. He used to terror card again and again. Prior to that even the liberals united after 9-11.

He destroyed any bipartisan possibilities by doing exactly what the fuck he wanted and screw anyone who didn't agree.

We waited until he fucked up before we attacked his shit- some of the right are already attacking Obama and he hasn't even been fucking inaugeratated yet.

 

[rayboyusmc]

the point is he did get the decision, and liberals have been bitching since that time..

And if it went the other way, you would be bitching, so what's your point?

 

[WillowTree]

And if it went the other way, you would be bitching, so what's your point?

yea, right on dipshit,, how many times have I posted on this site that "I voted for Gore." if you got any denser DUmmie you would fossilize!

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I think its safe for us to assume that you won't be falling for that schtick, Willow.

Call me cynical, but I think if Obama walked on water, your only comment would be something like:

"Oh look, the Niggar can't swim, either!"​

Ihh Look another appeal that conservatives are racists. How original.