Zogby Poll No Joke

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    The Zogby poll among Obama voters showed some disturbing results -especially regarding the selective reporting the blatantly biased media did in their efforts to get Obama elected since so many were truly ignorant about the candidates. The poll was not a joke and it was NOT a "push poll" as some critics have claimed. A push-poll is one designed to get respondents to most likely give the answer most desired. For instance -a question like "if you knew that Candidate X opposed allowing people to purchase the healthcare policy of their choice and seeing the doctor of their choice, would you be more in favor of voting for him or less likely to vote for him?" -is a push-poll question. You propose something negative about a candidate and then ask the person if that makes them more likely to want to vote for him or not. The fact that Candidate X never said any such thing is irrelevant -it leaves the person with the impression he did -and the individual already thinking he is less likely to vote for the guy as a result.

    The very nature of the questions in this poll plus the fact they were given multiple choices including the option of choosing "none" -rules out it being a push-poll. They were given factual situations that involved one candidate or certain comments made by one candidate -and asked which candidate it was about or said it -and allowed respondents to choose Obama, Biden, McCain, Palin or "none of them".

    The 12 question multiple choice survey found questions regarding negative situations and statements linked to McCain or Palin were far more likely to be answered correctly by Obama voters -than negative situations and statements associated with Obama or Biden.

    94% of Obama voters correctly identified Palin as the candidate with a pregnant teenager and 86% correctly identified Palin as the candidate associated with the $150,000 wardrobe purchased by her political party and 81% correctly identified McCain as the candidate who couldn't immediately identify how many houses he owned.

    Incredibly, when asked who said they "could see Russia" from their house -87% of Obama voters said Palin said it. Tina Fey said it in a skit on Saturday Night Live -Palin never said it.

    On the other hand -83% failed to correctly name Obama when asked which candidate won their first election by getting all their opponents removed from the ballot. 88% failed to identify Obama as the candidate who said his energy policies would likely bankrupt the US coal industry.

    56% failed to correctly name Obama as the candidate who started his political career at the home of two former Weatherman Underground members.

    72% of Obama voters did not know it was Biden who had to quit a previous campaign for the Presidency because he had plagiarized a speech and another 47% did not know it was Biden who said that Obama would be tested by an international crisis during his first six months in office.

    A big stunner -57% of Obama voters incorrectly identified which party controlled both houses of Congress before the election -and said Republicans controlled both houses of Congress.

    In other words -the majority of those who voted for Obama, were pretty darn ignorant about the guy. And the media did all it could to make sure as many people as possible remained that way. But the media can't be totally blamed -the fact that 57% of Obama voters didn't know which party already controlled both houses of Congress is ignorance of their own choosing and no big secret.
     
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    Lycurgus Who is Obama, really...??

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    Sad isn't it? ............... & Scary!
     
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    interesting
    so Obama was running push polls
    i wonder how many of those on this board that were claiming Bush did them will now pooh pooh Obama being caught red handed
     
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    Well, it WAS a push poll, but it wasn't Obama's. It was a right wingnuts's pushpoll which, I think everyone is kind of surprised that Zogby would destroy his reputation to do...

    The Numbers Guy : Zogby's Misleading Poll of Obama Voters
     
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    How does Zogby=Obama?? Where has Obama run push polls?
     
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    Not to mention that I'm not sure how one would equate a right winger's push poll with something Obama did.

    And this is the third thread posted on this push poll anyway... and three times it's been shown to be trash...

    yet they keep posting it.

    You'd think they'd be embarrassed.
     
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    Yet you do not mind at all when someone runs 15 different threads on the same thing a Republican did. Or 10 on Bush or 10 on McCain. Go figure.
     
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    Oh no, the horror... I pointed out that this pathetic excuse for political discussion had been debunked twice before. ... the horror!

    Besides, a wingnut financed push poll really isn't news because it doesn't say anything anyway.
     
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    sorry, the poll zogby did wasnt the push poll
     
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