All that running is gay

[mal]

If your Goal was to Kill this Thread with your Penchant for HomoErotic Ranting, then you have Succeded...

What a Pathetic Person you must be.

Have a Good Evening, Noose.



peace...

 

[KittenKoder]

Want to know what's really gay? Anything with the word "content" in it.

 

[noose4]

If your Goal was to Kill this Thread with your Penchant for HomoErotic Ranting, then you have Succeded...

What a Pathetic Person you must be.

Have a Good Evening, Noose.



peace...

you mess with the bull you get the horns (wait a minute.....you probably like getting the horns)

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

want to know what's really gay? Anything with the word "content" in it.

huh?

 

[mal]

want to know what's really gay? Anything with the word "content" in it.

huh?

Meh...



peace...

 

[JScott]

should a christian french team be able to refuse to play the muslims because they don't believe jesus is the son of god......how about the cartoon team because muslims will kill them for drawing pictures of their pedophile leader....

Yip, its their choice. Even pros decide they dont want to play if they dont agree with something. Its not like sports is anything important in this world.

sports is one of the few activities that brings different cultures nations etc.... together.....

Intellect is what we as humans excel at. It doesnt matter what color, sex or culture you come from, intellect is universal for humans.

Sports is the emulation of various animal behaviors. Sure people can get a lot of joy watching it but a lot of people put way to much time and money into sports.

 

[JScott]

Muslim team banned after refusing to play gay team

PARIS (AP) - Amateur soccer club was banned from the French amateur league on Wednesday after refusing to play a match against a gay team.
Last week, Paris Foot Gay said its members were victims of homophobia when Creteil Bebel, a team of Muslim players, refused to play them this month.

The French amateur league said it excluded Creteil for "refusing the match on discriminatory grounds."

The Correct action.

Actually, it probably wasnt the correct action. The correct action would be to disqualify the muslim team and give the win to the gay team.

By banning the muslim team, they are saying "we dont care about your religious beliefs".

 

[JScott]

the old testament is part of the christian bible, old testament is as violent as the koran, like already stated all religion is stupid and hinders mankind, and regarding your views on religion i believe it is from your holy book where it is stated:

Luke 6:42 "Or how can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,' when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother's eye.

Again... What Religion and it's Leaders and what Countries and it's Leaders using which Religion is Executing Innoncent People for Exercising their Free Will to the Harm of NO Person?...

Islam... Islamic Nations.

I am Sorry that a Fellow American who has the Luxury of Free Speech is Incapable of Acknowledging this Distinction, but it Appears that you are just that Person.

Good Afterlunch Noose, this Broken Record was Old YEARS ago, and it always Ends Bad.



peace...

You are taking the actions of a few and trying to cast it on the whole. Youre argument is ignorant to say the least. You are dismissed.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Muslim team banned after refusing to play gay team

PARIS (AP) - Amateur soccer club was banned from the French amateur league on Wednesday after refusing to play a match against a gay team.
Last week, Paris Foot Gay said its members were victims of homophobia when Creteil Bebel, a team of Muslim players, refused to play them this month.

The French amateur league said it excluded Creteil for "refusing the match on discriminatory grounds."

The Correct action.

Actually, it probably wasnt the correct action. The correct action would be to disqualify the muslim team and give the win to the gay team.

By banning the muslim team, they are saying "we dont care about your religious beliefs".

I see no reason to "care" about Islam. it is a genocidal street gang that calls for my death.
I object to Islam, I do not care about it.
You are dismissed.

 

[JScott]

Muslim team banned after refusing to play gay team

PARIS (AP) - Amateur soccer club was banned from the French amateur league on Wednesday after refusing to play a match against a gay team.
Last week, Paris Foot Gay said its members were victims of homophobia when Creteil Bebel, a team of Muslim players, refused to play them this month.

The French amateur league said it excluded Creteil for "refusing the match on discriminatory grounds."

The Correct action.

Actually, it probably wasnt the correct action. The correct action would be to disqualify the muslim team and give the win to the gay team.

By banning the muslim team, they are saying "we dont care about your religious beliefs".

I see no reason to "care" about Islam. it is a genocidal street gang that calls for my death.
I object to Islam, I do not care about it.
You are dismissed.

Generalizing is ignorance.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Actually, it probably wasnt the correct action. The correct action would be to disqualify the muslim team and give the win to the gay team.

By banning the muslim team, they are saying "we dont care about your religious beliefs".

I see no reason to "care" about Islam. it is a genocidal street gang that calls for my death.
I object to Islam, I do not care about it.
You are dismissed.

Generalizing is ignorance.

I did not generalize, I was specific.

 

[Kalam]

Actually, it probably wasnt the correct action. The correct action would be to disqualify the muslim team and give the win to the gay team.

By banning the muslim team, they are saying "we dont care about your religious beliefs".

I see no reason to "care" about Islam. it is a genocidal street gang that calls for my death.
I object to Islam, I do not care about it.
You are dismissed.

Generalizing is ignorance.

In his case, "denial is stupidity" would be more appropriate. He started a thread in which multiple posters each proved that Islam forbids the killing of innocents. He refused to accept any of the explanations provided, choosing to ignore the multitude of scriptural passages that clearly proved his preconceptions false.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

I see no reason to "care" about Islam. it is a genocidal street gang that calls for my death.
I object to Islam, I do not care about it.
You are dismissed.

Generalizing is ignorance.

In his case, "denial is stupidity" would be more appropriate. He started a thread in which multiple posters each proved that Islam forbids the killing of innocents. He refused to accept any of the explanations provided, choosing to ignore the multitude of scriptural passages that clearly proved his preconceptions false.

Please provide a link that proves unequivocally non muslims are innocent according to Islamic scripture.

 

[Kalam]

Here's another for you, asswipe:

In The Name of God, The Compassionate, The Merciful

Legal Fatwa​

This is the reply to the (religious) inquiry presented by Mr. Muhammad Abdur-Rashid, the most senior Muslim chaplain in the American Armed forces. It concerns the permissibility of the Muslim military personnel within the US armed forces to participate in the war operations and its related efforts in Afghanistan and elsewhere in other Muslim countries.

In his question he states that the goals of the (war) operations are:

1) Retaliation against those "who are thought to have participated" in planning and financing the suicide operations on September 11th, against civilian and military targets in New York and Washington (he then detailed the consequences of these operations.)

2) Eliminating the elements that use Afghanistan and elsewhere as safe haven, as well as deterring the governments which harbor them, sanction them, or allow them the opportunity for military training in order to achieve their goals around the world.

3) Restoring the veneration and respect to the US as a sole superpower in the world.

Furthermore, he concludes his inquiry by mentioning that the number of the Muslim military personnel, in the three branches of the American armed forces, exceeds fifteen thousand soldiers. Hence, if they refuse to participate in fighting, they will have no choice but to resign, which might also entail other consequences. Finally, he asks if it is permissible, to those who can transfer, to serve in different capacities other than direct fighting.

The reply:
Praise be to God and peace and blessings be upon the messengers of God. We say: This question presents a very complicated issue and a highly sensitive situation for our Muslim brothers and sisters serving in the American army as well as other armies that face similar situations. All Muslims ought to be united against all those who terrorize the innocents, and those who permit the killing of non-combatants without a justifiable reason. Islam has declared the spilling of blood and the destruction of property as absolute prohibitions until the Day of Judgment. God (glory be to He) said: "Because of that We ordained unto the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a human being - unless it be in punishment for murder or for spreading mischief on earth- it would be as though he killed all of humanity; whereas, if anyone saved a life, it would be as though he saved the life of all humanity. And indeed, there came to them Our messengers with clear signs (proofs and evidences), even then after that, many of them continued to commit mischief on earth." 5:32

Hence, whoever violates these pointed Islamic texts is an offender deserving of the appropriate punishment according to their offense and according to its consequences for destruction and mischief.

It's incumbent upon our military brothers in the American armed forces to make this stand and its religious reasoning well known to all their superiors, as well as to their peers, and to voice it and not to be silent. Conveying this is part of the true nature of the Islamic teachings that have often been distorted or smeared by the media.

If the terrorist acts that took place in the US were considered by the Islamic Law (Shar'iah) or the rules of Islamic jurisprudence (Fiqh), the ruling for the crime of "Hirabah" (waging war against society) would be applied to their doers. God (Glory be to He) said: "The recompense of those who wage war against God and His Messenger and do mischief on earth is only that they shall be killed or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off from opposite sides, or be exiled from the land. That is
their disgrace in this world, and a great torment is theirs in the Hereafter. Except for those who (having fled away and then) came back with repentance before they fall into your power; (in that case) know that God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." 5: 33-34

Therefore, we find it necessary to apprehend the true perpetrators of these crimes, as well as those who aid and abet them through incitement, financing or other support. They must be brought to justice in an impartial court of law and punish them appropriately, so that it could act as deterrent to them and to others like them who easily slay the lives of innocents, destroy properties and terrorize people. Hence, it's a duty on Muslims to participate in this effort with all possible means, in
accordance with God's (Most High) saying: "And help one another in virtue and righteousness, but do not help one another in sin and transgression." 5:2.

On the other hand, the source of the uneasiness that American Muslim military men and women may have in fighting other Muslims, is because it's often difficult- if not impossible- to differentiate between the real perpetrators who are being pursued, and the innocents who have committed no crime at all. The authentic saying by the prophet states: "When two Muslims face each other in fighting and one kills the other, then both the killer and the killed are in the hell-fire. Someone said: we understand
that the killer is in hell, why then the one who's being killed? The prophet said: because he wanted to kill the other person." (Narrated by Bukhari and Muslim.)

The noble Hadith mentioned above only refers to the situation where the Muslim is in charge of his affairs. He is capable of fighting as well as capable of not fighting. This Hadith does not address the situation where a Muslim is a citizen of a state and a member of a regular army. In this case, he has no choice but to follow orders, otherwise his allegiance and loyalty to his country could be in doubt. This would subject him to much harm since he would not enjoy the privileges of citizenship without performing its obligations.

The Muslim (soldier) must perform his duty in this fight despite the feeling of uneasiness of "fighting without discriminating." His intention (niyya) must be to fight for enjoining of the truth and defeating falsehood. It's to prevent aggression on the innocents, or to apprehend the perpetrators and bring them to justice. It's not his concern what other consequences of the fighting that might result in his personal discomfort, since he alone can neither control it nor prevent it. Furthermore, all deeds are accounted (by God) according to the intentions. God (the Most High) does not burden any soul except what it can bear. In addition, Muslim jurists have ruled that what a Muslim cannot control he cannot be held accountable for, as God (the Most High) says: "And keep your duty to God as much as you can." 64:16. The prophet (prayer and peace be upon him) said: "when I ask of you to do something, do it as much as you can." The Muslim here is a part of a whole, if he absconds, his departure will result in a greater harm, not only for him but also for the Muslim community in his country - and here there are many millions of them. Moreover, even if fighting causes him discomfort spiritually or psychologically, this personal hardship must be endured for the greater public good, as the jurisprudence (fiqhi) rule states.

Furthermore, the questioner inquires about the possibility of the Muslim military personnel in the American armed forces to serve in the back lines - such as in the relief services' sector and similar works. If such requests are granted by the authorities, without reservation or harm to the soldiers, or to the other American Muslim citizens, then they should request that. Otherwise, if such request raises doubts about their allegiance or loyalty, cast suspicions, present them with false accusations, harm their future careers, shed misgivings on their patriotism, or similar sentiments, then it's not permissible to ask for that.

To sum up, it's acceptable - God willing- for the Muslim American military personnel to partake in the fighting in the upcoming battles, against whomever, their country decides, has perpetrated terrorism against them. Keeping in mind to have the proper intention as explained earlier, so no doubts would be cast about their loyalty to their country, or to prevent harm to befall them as might be expected. This is in accordance with the Islamic jurisprudence rules which state that necessities dictate exceptions, as well as the rule that says one may endure a small harm to avoid a much greater harm.

And God the Most High is Most Knowledgeable and Most Wise.

Rajab 10, 1422 AH / September 27, 2001

Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi [Grand Islamic Scholar and Chairman of the Sunna and Sira Council, Qatar]
Judge Tariq al-Bishri [First Deputy President of the Council d'etat, Ret., Egypt]
Dr. Muhammad S. al-Awa [Professor of Comparative Law and Shari'a, Egypt]
Dr. Haytham al-Khayyat [Islamic Scholar, Syria]
Mr. Fahmi Houaydi [Islamic Author and Columnist, Egypt]
Sheikh Taha Jabir al-Alwani [Chairman of the North America Fiqh Council, Sterling, Va.]​

Qaradawi et al. fatwa (Arabic)

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Im sorry that is not proof. Please provide Islamic scripture that proves unequivocally non muslims are innocent according to Islamic scripture..

 

[Kalam]

Im sorry that is not proof. Please provide Islamic scripture that proves unequivocally non muslims are innocent according to Islamic scripture..

I'm sorry, that is not a rebuttal. If you failed to notice the multiple scriptural references and explanations offered by individuals who are widely acknowledged as preeminent Islamic scholars, you're even stupider than I believed you to be.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

It is ridicules from the inception.
Not worth rebutting.

It is not permissible for a Muslim to fight with kaafirs against the Muslims at all..

I work in the army of a non-Muslim state, and there are wars between them and the Muslims. What is the ruling if they send me with a division of this army to wage war against the Muslims? As a Muslim, my feelings are that I never want to fight against Muslims in any war.
What should I do?
What is the ruling if I go…?

Praise be to Allaah.

If you are sent to wage war against the Muslims, then it is not permissible for you to take part at all. Helping the kaafirs against the Muslims is a form of major kufr which puts one beyond the pale of Islam. Allaah says concerning one who supports the mushrikeen (interpretation of the meaning):

“And if any amongst you takes them (as Awliyaa’, i.e., friends), then surely, he is one of them”[al-Maa’idah 5:51]

With regard to how you may get out of this situation, and what excuse you can give to get out of this dilemma if it happens, we ask Allaah to help you, and we suggest that you consult some Muslims who have relevant knowledge or experience.

We want to emphasize to you the necessity of finding other employment and of leaving service in the army of the kaafirs, because that implies helping them, strengthening them and increasing the numbers of their fighters and supporters – unless your work can bring some benefits to the Muslims, such as giving information and secrets of the kaafirs to the Muslims so as to help the Muslims, or if your work is purely da’wah, such as giving khutbahs and leading prayers for the Muslims in the kaafir army whilst also advising them to avoid any work that will strengthen the kaafirs. We ask Allaah to keep you safe from temptation and to give you a good end in this world and in the Hereafter.

Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

 

[Kalam]

It is ridicules from the inception.
Not worth rebutting.

Translation: "Once again, my stupid ass is unable to refute what you've posted. Here's some Wahhabi drivel I've copied and pasted from some idiot's website:"

Yes, I see, Mr. Fitnah. I expected as much.

Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

Who is this?

According to Islamonline.net, a "well-known Saudi Islamic lecturer and author."

Even if we were to look past the fact that he's a Wahhabi heretic, his credentials pale in comparison to Qaradawi's alone, much less Qaradawi's along with those of the fatwah's five other authors. You fail again.

 

[mal]

the old testament is part of the christian bible, old testament is as violent as the koran, like already stated all religion is stupid and hinders mankind, and regarding your views on religion i believe it is from your holy book where it is stated:

Again... What Religion and it's Leaders and what Countries and it's Leaders using which Religion is Executing Innoncent People for Exercising their Free Will to the Harm of NO Person?...

Islam... Islamic Nations.

I am Sorry that a Fellow American who has the Luxury of Free Speech is Incapable of Acknowledging this Distinction, but it Appears that you are just that Person.

Good Afterlunch Noose, this Broken Record was Old YEARS ago, and it always Ends Bad.



peace...

You are taking the actions of a few and trying to cast it on the whole. Youre argument is ignorant to say the least. You are dismissed.

Entire Islamic Nations that have these Laws are NOT a "Few"...

You have Dismissed NOTHING, Except the Facts.



peace...

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Im sorry that is not proof. Please provide Islamic scripture that proves unequivocally non muslims are innocent according to Islamic scripture..

I'm sorry, that is not a rebuttal. If you failed to notice the multiple scriptural references and explanations offered by individuals who are widely acknowledged as preeminent Islamic scholars, you're even stupider than I believed you to be.

There is nothing there that proves non muslims are innocent according to Islamic scripture let alone unequivocally innocent.
To suggest it would be Islamically sensiable to fight to

3) Restoring the veneration and respect to the US as a sole superpower in the world
​

Is so ludicrous is is laughable.
The USA is a kafir state that rules through mans laws not the laws of sharia.


Islam Question and Answer - Judging by that which Allaah has revealed
Islam Question and Answer - Should he turn to the human rights organizations to get his rights?
Islam Question and Answer - The kufr of one who rules according to other than what Allaah revealed

Allaah has commanded us to refer matters to His judgement and to establish Sharee‘ah, and He has forbidden us to rule with anything else, as is clear from a number of aayaat in the Qur’aan, such as the aayaat in Soorat al-Maa’idah (5) which discuss ruling according to what Allaah has revealed, and mention the following topics:

The command to rule according to what Allaah has revealed: “And so judge between them by what Allaah has revealed . . .” [aayah 49]

Warning against ruling by other than what Allaah has revealed: “. . . and follow not their vain desires . . .” [aayah 49]

Warning against compromising on any detail of Sharee‘ah, no matter how small: “. . . but beware of them lest they turn you far away from some of that which Allaah has sent down to you . . .” [aayah 49]

Forbidding seeking the ruling of jaahiliyyah, as is expressed in the rhetorical question “Do they then seek the judgement of (the Days of) Ignorance?” [aayah 50]

The statement that nobody is better than Allaah to judge: “. . . and who is better in judgement than Allaah for a people who have firm Faith?” [aayah 50]

The statement that whoever does not judge according to what Allaah revealed is a kaafir, a zaalim (oppressor or wrongdoer) and a faasiq (sinner), as Allaah says: “. . . And whoever does not judge by what Allaah has revealed, such are the kaafiroon.” [aayah 44]; “. . . And whoever does not judge by that which Allaah has revealed, such are the zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers)” [aayah 45]; “. . . And whoever does not judge by what Allaah has revealed (then) such (people) are the faasiqoon (rebellious or disobedient).” [aayah 47].

The statement that it is obligatory for the Muslims to judge according to what Allaah has revealed, even if those who seek their judgement are not Muslim, as Allaah says: “. . . And if you judge, judge with justice between them. . .” [aayah 42]