Abbas calls Israel a colonial project unrelated to Judaism

[USAF 2023]

Rewriting history, Abbas calls Israel a ‘colonial project’ unrelated to Judaism This is who the Israelis are supposed to make ' peace" with? Now, THAT is funny!
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[Roudy]

Ya well, their whole fraudulent cause is collapsing right in front of their eyes, so now they're taking their masks off for the world to see who and what they really are.

 

[Rambunctious]

Abbas is living in the past....Israel is not going away not now not next year not ever...if he wants to keep fighting the impossible some doctor needs to evaluate him...doing the same thing over and over with the same results is the definition of crazy...

 

[Roudy]

Abbas is living in the past....Israel is not going away not now not next year not ever...if he wants to keep fighting the impossible some doctor needs to evaluate him...doing the same thing over and over with the same results is the definition of crazy...

What can we expect from someone who made his debut on the world stage by writing a Holocaust denying book?

Report: Abbas’ Holocaust-Denial Dissertation Widely-Taught in PA

The doctorate was published as a book in 1984, entitled,"The Other Side: the Secret Relationship Between Nazism and Zionism.” It was completed in 1982 at a university in Communist Russia, and was defended at the Institute of Oriental Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

It downgrades the number of Holocaust victims to “[possibly] below one million,” and accuses Zionist leaders of encouraging the persecution of Jews.

It also denies that the gas chambers were used to murder Jews, quoting a "scientific study" to that effect by French Holocaust-denier Robert Faurisson.

• “…it is possible that the number of Jewish victims reached six million, but at the same time it is possible that the figure is much smaller--below one million.”
  
• "The historian and author, Raoul Hilberg, thinks that the figure does not exceed 890,000." [Holocaust authority Dr. Rafael Medoff says, “This is, of course, utterly false. Professor Hilberg, a distinguished historian and author of the classic study 'The Destruction of the European Jews', has never said or written any such thing.”]]
  
• "It seems that the interest of the Zionist movement, however, is to inflate this figure so that their gains will be greater… This led them to emphasize this figure [six million] in order to gain the solidarity of international public opinion with Zionism.”
  
• "A partnership was established between Hitler's Nazis and the leadership of the Zionist movement ... [the Zionists gave] permission to every racist in the world, led by Hitler and the Nazis, to treat Jews as they wish, so long as it guarantees immigration to Palestine."

• Medoff writes that Abbas writes in his dissertation that the Zionist leaders actually wanted Jews to be murdered, because "having more victims meant greater rights and stronger privilege to join the negotiation table for dividing the spoils of war once it was over. However, since Zionism was not a fighting partner --suffering victims in a battle --it had no escape but to offer up human beings, under any name, to raise the number of victims, which they could then boast of at the moment of accounting."

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Abbas calls Israel a colonial project unrelated to Judaism
※→ ILOVEISRAEL, et al,

Well, my two generalized points are:

• The Arab Palestinians under the Ramallah Government aperiodically fall back on to the 1967 Khartoum Resolution (AKA: The Three No's) which stipulate that "no peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with it, and insistence on the rights of the Palestinian people in their own country" as the center piece of their Principles of International Law.

Rewriting history, Abbas calls Israel a ‘colonial project’ unrelated to Judaism This is who the Israelis are supposed to make ' peace" with? Now, THAT is funny!
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(COMMENT)

The Arab Palestinians have no real intention, at this point in time, as to pursue in good faith negotiations that might bring an end to the conflict. And as long as key Arab Palestinians keep the embers burning hot on the conflict, the more they can gather the profits off the top of donor contributions and international welfare.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Rambunctious]

When is the worlds liberal bony finger of condemnation going to be pointed towards the bigoted so called Palestinians for not being able to live next to people of a differing faith? any of you self righteous libs want to take a crack at that?

 

[flacaltenn]

Rewriting history, Abbas calls Israel a ‘colonial project’ unrelated to Judaism This is who the Israelis are supposed to make ' peace" with? Now, THAT is funny!
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It's a lot of things to a lot of people. Not all of them Jews.. What Abbas SAYS is not as important as what Abbas DOES.. Rule #1 of negotiating with Arab leadership....

 

[USAF 2023]

Abbas is living in the past....Israel is not going away not now not next year not ever...if he wants to keep fighting the impossible some doctor needs to evaluate him...doing the same thing over and over with the same results is the definition of crazy...

What can we expect from someone who made his debut on the world stage by writing a Holocaust denying book?

Report: Abbas’ Holocaust-Denial Dissertation Widely-Taught in PA

The doctorate was published as a book in 1984, entitled,"The Other Side: the Secret Relationship Between Nazism and Zionism.” It was completed in 1982 at a university in Communist Russia, and was defended at the Institute of Oriental Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

It downgrades the number of Holocaust victims to “[possibly] below one million,” and accuses Zionist leaders of encouraging the persecution of Jews.

It also denies that the gas chambers were used to murder Jews, quoting a "scientific study" to that effect by French Holocaust-denier Robert Faurisson.

• “…it is possible that the number of Jewish victims reached six million, but at the same time it is possible that the figure is much smaller--below one million.”
  
• "The historian and author, Raoul Hilberg, thinks that the figure does not exceed 890,000." [Holocaust authority Dr. Rafael Medoff says, “This is, of course, utterly false. Professor Hilberg, a distinguished historian and author of the classic study 'The Destruction of the European Jews', has never said or written any such thing.”]]
  
• "It seems that the interest of the Zionist movement, however, is to inflate this figure so that their gains will be greater… This led them to emphasize this figure [six million] in order to gain the solidarity of international public opinion with Zionism.”
  
• "A partnership was established between Hitler's Nazis and the leadership of the Zionist movement ... [the Zionists gave] permission to every racist in the world, led by Hitler and the Nazis, to treat Jews as they wish, so long as it guarantees immigration to Palestine."

• Medoff writes that Abbas writes in his dissertation that the Zionist leaders actually wanted Jews to be murdered, because "having more victims meant greater rights and stronger privilege to join the negotiation table for dividing the spoils of war once it was over. However, since Zionism was not a fighting partner --suffering victims in a battle --it had no escape but to offer up human beings, under any name, to raise the number of victims, which they could then boast of at the moment of accounting."

 

[USAF 2023]

Abbas is living in the past....Israel is not going away not now not next year not ever...if he wants to keep fighting the impossible some doctor needs to evaluate him...doing the same thing over and over with the same results is the definition of crazy...

What can we expect from someone who made his debut on the world stage by writing a Holocaust denying book?

Report: Abbas’ Holocaust-Denial Dissertation Widely-Taught in PA

The doctorate was published as a book in 1984, entitled,"The Other Side: the Secret Relationship Between Nazism and Zionism.” It was completed in 1982 at a university in Communist Russia, and was defended at the Institute of Oriental Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences.

It downgrades the number of Holocaust victims to “[possibly] below one million,” and accuses Zionist leaders of encouraging the persecution of Jews.

It also denies that the gas chambers were used to murder Jews, quoting a "scientific study" to that effect by French Holocaust-denier Robert Faurisson.

• “…it is possible that the number of Jewish victims reached six million, but at the same time it is possible that the figure is much smaller--below one million.”
  
• "The historian and author, Raoul Hilberg, thinks that the figure does not exceed 890,000." [Holocaust authority Dr. Rafael Medoff says, “This is, of course, utterly false. Professor Hilberg, a distinguished historian and author of the classic study 'The Destruction of the European Jews', has never said or written any such thing.”]]
  
• "It seems that the interest of the Zionist movement, however, is to inflate this figure so that their gains will be greater… This led them to emphasize this figure [six million] in order to gain the solidarity of international public opinion with Zionism.”
  
• "A partnership was established between Hitler's Nazis and the leadership of the Zionist movement ... [the Zionists gave] permission to every racist in the world, led by Hitler and the Nazis, to treat Jews as they wish, so long as it guarantees immigration to Palestine."

• Medoff writes that Abbas writes in his dissertation that the Zionist leaders actually wanted Jews to be murdered, because "having more victims meant greater rights and stronger privilege to join the negotiation table for dividing the spoils of war once it was over. However, since Zionism was not a fighting partner --suffering victims in a battle --it had no escape but to offer up human beings, under any name, to raise the number of victims, which they could then boast of at the moment of accounting."

THANK YOU

 

[P F Tinmore]

Rewriting history, Abbas calls Israel a ‘colonial project’ unrelated to Judaism This is who the Israelis are supposed to make ' peace" with? Now, THAT is funny!
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“Colonialism created Israel to perform a certain function. It is a colonial project that has nothing to do with Judaism, but rather used the Jews as a tool under the slogan of the Promised Land,”

Britain called it a colonialism. The Zionists called it colonialism. The Palestinians called it colonialism. History calls it colonialism. The facts on the ground call it colonialism.

Who says it is not?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

It might have been a colonial project but it WAS related to Judaism. Jews have been praying, and fasting, and yearning to return to Israel for almost 2000 years. It's said every day in prayers, in every grace for meals, at every Jewish wedding, at every Passover and Yom Kippur: "Next year in Jerusalem rebuilt!" On the 10th of Tevet, Jews fast because the enemy besieged Jerusalem. On the 17th of Tammuz, Jews fast because the Romans breached the walls. On the 9th of Av, Jews fast because the Temple was destroyed.

 

[Hossfly]

Rewriting history, Abbas calls Israel a ‘colonial project’ unrelated to Judaism This is who the Israelis are supposed to make ' peace" with? Now, THAT is funny!
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“Colonialism created Israel to perform a certain function. It is a colonial project that has nothing to do with Judaism, but rather used the Jews as a tool under the slogan of the Promised Land,”

Britain called it a colonialism. The Zionists called it colonialism. The Palestinians called it colonialism. History calls it colonialism. The facts on the ground call it colonialism.

Who says it is not?

I say it's not, Tinmore. How does a people colonize their ancestral homeland?

 

[Sixties Fan]

It might have been a colonial project but it WAS related to Judaism. Jews have been praying, and fasting, and yearning to return to Israel for almost 2000 years. It's said every day in prayers, in every grace for meals, at every Jewish wedding, at every Passover and Yom Kippur: "Next year in Jerusalem rebuilt!" On the 10th of Tevet, Jews fast because the enemy besieged Jerusalem. On the 17th of Tammuz, Jews fast because the Romans breached the walls. On the 9th of Av, Jews fast because the Temple was destroyed.

It was never a "colonial" project. Tinmore loves to throw those words around.

The indigenous people joining other indigenous people on their ancient homeland has never been called a "colonial project" at any other time and towards any other peoples.

www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/a-definition-of-zionism
The term “Zionism” was coined in 1890 by Nathan Birnbaum. Its general definition means the national movement for the return of the Jewish people to their homeland and the resumption of Jewish sovereignty in the Land of Israel.

Zionism - Wikipedia
Zionism (Hebrew: צִיּוֹנוּת‬ Tsiyyonut Hebrew pronunciation: [t͡sijo̞ˈnut] after Zion) is the national movement of the Jewish people that supports the re-establishment of a Jewish homeland in the territory defined as the historic Land of Israel (roughly corresponding to Canaan, the Holy Land, or the region of Palestine .


The indigenous people gained legal rights to become sovereign of their OWN ancient homeland and ended up with less than 20% of it.

The Arab Muslim colonial project continues with the Arab Hashemite clan being given 78% of that land without earning it, and other clans gained all of Gaza.

No Jews are allowed to live in Jordan or in Gaza.

The Arab Muslim colonial project has gained much more than it deserved already.

Time to stop wanting more and sign a Peace Treaty and learn to live like the losers they are.

 

[Kondor3]

Abbas calls Israel a colonial project unrelated to Judaism

Who?

Oh... yeah... right... the obscure little Muslim-Arab political comedian.

Great act.

President of a nonexistent state that never was and never will be.

Funny stuff.

 

[Humanity]

Jews have been praying, and fasting, and yearning to return to Israel for almost 2000 years.

With 14 million Jews in the world and 6 million living in Israel it seems that praying, fasting and yearning to return to Israel isn't on every Jews agenda.

Should it be the duty of every non Jew to ensure every Jew returns to and lives in Israel?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

Jews have been praying, and fasting, and yearning to return to Israel for almost 2000 years.

With 14 million Jews in the world and 6 million living in Israel it seems that praying, fasting and yearning to return to Israel isn't on every Jews agenda.

Should it be the duty of every non Jew to ensure every Jew returns to and lives in Israel?

Non-Jews don't have to aid in it but they shouldn't oppose it.

Yes, it's true many Jews are comfortable where they happen to be. Many Jews also can't pick up and leave their jobs or families just like that. My 2 best friends, as well as a score of acquaintances of mine, have moved there. I've learned that it's best to make Aliyah when you're first starting out in Life, after high-school or college, before you begin a family or career. The next best way is after you retire, when you can get a pension and Social Security to live on.

 

[Kondor3]

Jews have been praying, and fasting, and yearning to return to Israel for almost 2000 years.

With 14 million Jews in the world and 6 million living in Israel it seems that praying, fasting and yearning to return to Israel isn't on every Jews agenda.

Should it be the duty of every non Jew to ensure every Jew returns to and lives in Israel?

You so-called Palestinians can ask yourselves the same question after you've been wandering for 2,000 years.

The clock will be starting on your own Diaspora soon enough.

Of course, you won't hold together 50 years as a so-called 'People', once the clock does start running, never mind 2,000.

Why?

Because you were never a 'People' or 'Nation' in the first place.

Rather... merely a laughable mix of old and new Muslim-Arab riff-raff of the region who have been exploited by fellow Muslims for decades for their own (now-failed) purposes.

Do yourselves a favor... pack your bags and leave... there's no future for you there... you're dangerous... you're not wanted... and you're being forced out, anyway.

Might as well get it over with, relocate, and start building a new and much happier and healthier future for yourselves and your families, somewhere else.

The Jews have won... you have lost... it's over... snap out of it... face reality... and leave.

 

[montelatici]

Israel is a European colonial project. The European colonizers made it clear what it was at the outset of the Zionist program.

Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times

An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times depicts how the Conference sought to “colonize Palestine” and discussed the purchasing of land with English Zionists.
World Bulletin/News Desk

An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times expresses that the Zionists “will colonize Palestine.”

The article explains that the conference discussed a paper from the English Zionist Federation “proposing the re-establishment of Judea as an independent State, suggesting the purchase of the Maccabean sites in Palestine, and the beginning of the work by the establishment of a Jewish colony and a Jewish Agricultural College there.”

It further clarifies that “The site to be purchased comprises about fifty acres, six miles from a station on the railroad between Jappa and Jerusalem, and within sight of the sea and a large stretch of the Palestinian coast.”

It notes that English Zionists have gathered 2,500 dollars in the currency of the period and request that quantity from the American Zionists.

The article also explains that “On motion of Dr. Wise, the Federation voted $100 as the nucleus of the required fund of $2,500, the remainder to be raised by subscriptions from the 125 societies and individuals, both Jews and Gentiles. A general appeal to the public will be made.”

It also conveys that delegates will be elected at the Zionist meeting in Baltimore.

The straightforward and comfortable manner with which the colonization is pursued is indicative how, before having to be concerned with the image of Zionism and public relations, Zionist leaders depicted their movement as a colonial mission during a time in which European nations were colonial powers. "


Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times - World Bulletin

 

[montelatici]

Jews have been praying, and fasting, and yearning to return to Israel for almost 2000 years.

With 14 million Jews in the world and 6 million living in Israel it seems that praying, fasting and yearning to return to Israel isn't on every Jews agenda.

Should it be the duty of every non Jew to ensure every Jew returns to and lives in Israel?

You so-called Palestinians can ask yourselves the same question after you've been wandering for 2,000 years.

The clock will be starting on your own Diaspora soon enough.

Of course, you won't hold together 50 years as a so-called 'People', once the clock does start running, never mind 2,000.

Why?

Because you were never a 'People' or 'Nation' in the first place.

Rather... merely a laughable mix of old and new Muslim-Arab riff-raff of the region who have been exploited by fellow Muslims for decades for their own (now-failed) purposes.

Do yourselves a favor... pack your bags and leave... there's no future for you there... you're dangerous... you're not wanted... and you're being forced out, anyway.

Might as well get it over with, relocate, and start building a new and much happier and healthier future for yourselves and your families, somewhere else.

The Jews have won... you have lost... it's over... snap out of it... face reality... and leave.

The Jews lost when the two-state solution became impossible to implement. Israel will follow the same process as South Africa. After decades of Apartheid, the non-Jewish majority will achieve enfranchisement and the state will become a secular state favoring no religion.

 

[Kondor3]

Israel is a European colonial project. The European colonizers made it clear what it was at the outset of the Zionist program.

Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times

An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times depicts how the Conference sought to “colonize Palestine” and discussed the purchasing of land with English Zionists.
World Bulletin/News Desk

An article about a Conference of Zionists published on July 20, 1899 in the New York Times expresses that the Zionists “will colonize Palestine.”

The article explains that the conference discussed a paper from the English Zionist Federation “proposing the re-establishment of Judea as an independent State, suggesting the purchase of the Maccabean sites in Palestine, and the beginning of the work by the establishment of a Jewish colony and a Jewish Agricultural College there.”

It further clarifies that “The site to be purchased comprises about fifty acres, six miles from a station on the railroad between Jappa and Jerusalem, and within sight of the sea and a large stretch of the Palestinian coast.”

It notes that English Zionists have gathered 2,500 dollars in the currency of the period and request that quantity from the American Zionists.

The article also explains that “On motion of Dr. Wise, the Federation voted $100 as the nucleus of the required fund of $2,500, the remainder to be raised by subscriptions from the 125 societies and individuals, both Jews and Gentiles. A general appeal to the public will be made.”

It also conveys that delegates will be elected at the Zionist meeting in Baltimore.

The straightforward and comfortable manner with which the colonization is pursued is indicative how, before having to be concerned with the image of Zionism and public relations, Zionist leaders depicted their movement as a colonial mission during a time in which European nations were colonial powers. "


Zionists plan to colonize Palestine in 1899 NY Times - World Bulletin

Indeed.

Great fun.

What are you gonna do about it?