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Go to Car and Driver or Motor Trend and read something, MORON.That is the stupidest argument I've ever heard LOL Do I have to buy every vehicle I know about to discuss them. Jeebus Pub dupes are dumb.
You'll probably have a hybrid truck within 10 years, with double the mileage. Thanks in advance for you patriotism. You'll also LOVE ACA by that time.
1 "(Reuters) - General Motors Co sold a record number of Chevrolet Volt sedans in August — but that probably isn't a good thing for the automaker's bottom line.
2. Nearly two years after the introduction of the path-breaking plug-in hybrid, GM is still losing as much as $49,000 on each Volt it builds, according to estimates provided to Reuters by industry analysts and manufacturing experts.
3. ...There are some Americans paying just $5,050 to drive around for two years in a vehicle that cost as much as $89,000 to produce.
4. GM is still years away from making money on the Volt, which will soon face new competitors from Ford, Honda and others. GM's basic problem is that "the Volt is over-engineered and over-priced," said Dennis Virag, president of the Michigan-based Automotive Consulting Group.
5. But the Volt's steep $39,995 base price and its complex technology — the car uses expensive lithium-polymer batteries, sophisticated electronics and an electric motor combined with a gasoline engine — have kept many prospective buyers away from Chevy showrooms.
6. ...the technical challenges of ownership, mainly related to charging the battery. Plug-in hybrids such as the Volt still take hours to fully charge the batteries -...
7. The lack of interest in the car has prevented GM from coming close to its early, optimistic sales projections."
Insight: GM's Volt - The ugly math of low sales, high costs | Reuters
And....let's see what could have been learned from a study of history....
8. The Trabant is an automobile that was produced by former East German auto maker VEB Sachsenring Automobilwerke Zwickau in Zwickau, Sachsen. It was the most common vehicle in East Germany, and was also exported to countries both inside and outside the communist bloc. The main selling point was that it had room for four adults and luggage in a compact, light and durable shell. Despite its mediocre performance and smoky two-stroke engine, the car is regarded with derisive affection as a symbol of the failed former East Germany and of the fall of communism (in former West Germany, as many East Germans streamed into West Berlin and West Germany in their Trabants after the opening of the Berlin Wall in 1989). For advocates of capitalism it is often cited as an example of the disadvantages of centralized planning as even refueling the car required lifting the hood, filling the tank with gasoline (only 24 litres[1]), then adding two-stroke oil and shaking it back and forth to mix. It was in production without any significant changes for nearly 30 years with 3,096,099 Trabants produced in total.
Trabant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
9. ....the man who goes to buy a car in Moscow, pays for it, and is told by the salesman that he can collect it on a particular date in 10 years' time. The buyer thinks for a moment and then asks: 'Morning or afternoon?' The salesman, astonished by the question, asks: 'What difference does it make?' And the buyer answers: 'Well, the plumber is coming in the morning.'
10. Stil think it's a good idea for the brilliant folks in government to be picking the winners and losers in the economy?
This is why this post belongs in politics rather than economy or technology.
This is what Obama supporters voted for.
1. The following from the April 2011 Consumer Reports
2. Ours cost $43,700 including options; with a dealer markup, the total was $48,700.
3. There is a $7,500 electric vehicle tax credit.
4. A weak electric heater is problematic. It is quiet, has brisk acceleration, with a taut, supple ride. Due to the tepid warm air, the passengers were uncomfortable. When the temperature dips below 26, the engine will turn on even during the electric portion of the trip.
5. The mph is not meaningful without knowing a trips length, because calculating fuel economy depends on the ratio of electric to gasoline use.
a. Weve been getting between 23 and 28 mpg, due to the winters freeze. The cars electric range is very susceptible to cold weather since the heater runs on electricity.
b. Weve also found that an extended highway cruise shortens the electric range.
6. So, the fuel economy depends on your driving pattern. The more often and further you travel, the closer your overall energy use drops toward 30 mpg.
7. Based on energy use, the Volt has been averaging close to 2 miles per kilowatt-hour, which, according to the EPA, is the equivalent of 65 mpg. But thats for the first 25 miles or so, on battery alone.
8. GM says recharge times are about 4 hours with a 240-volt supply, and 10 to 12 hours with 120 volts. Our Volt has been taking almost 13 kWh in about 5 hours every time we charge. Volt buyers should purchase a 220-volt (Level 2) charger.
a. At the national average rate of 11 cents per kWh, the Volt costs about 5.7 cents per mile in electric mode and 10 cents a mile after that- if gas is $3 per gallon.
b. A Toyota Prius costs 6.8 cents per mile, and a gas powered Honda Fit costs about 10 cents per mile (but the price is less than half of that of the Volt).
9. In the Northeast, electricity cost is a lot higher. For example:
Sep. 22, 2010: ($0.27 per kWh)
Aug. 23, 2010: ($0.24 per kWh)
Jul. 23, 2010: ($0.29 per kWh)
Jun. 23, 2010: ($0.28 per kWh)
May 24, 2010: ($0.41 per kWh)
Apr. 23, 2010: ($0.87 per kWh) W303 » New York City Electricity Con Edison Kwh Charge History
10.So, the Volt works as an electric car with a gas backup .but it is not much of a money saver in many places. For now, the Volt is an expensive way to be green.
All hail Emperor Obama!!
He will take over the electric companies, ObamaWatt, and demand lower prices......
1. The following from the April 2011 Consumer Reports
2. Ours cost $43,700 including options; with a dealer markup, the total was $48,700.
3. There is a $7,500 electric vehicle tax credit.
4. A weak electric heater is problematic. It is quiet, has brisk acceleration, with a taut, supple ride. Due to the tepid warm air, the passengers were uncomfortable. When the temperature dips below 26, the engine will turn on even during the electric portion of the trip.
5. The mph is not meaningful without knowing a trips length, because calculating fuel economy depends on the ratio of electric to gasoline use.
a. Weve been getting between 23 and 28 mpg, due to the winters freeze. The cars electric range is very susceptible to cold weather since the heater runs on electricity.
b. Weve also found that an extended highway cruise shortens the electric range.
6. So, the fuel economy depends on your driving pattern. The more often and further you travel, the closer your overall energy use drops toward 30 mpg.
7. Based on energy use, the Volt has been averaging close to 2 miles per kilowatt-hour, which, according to the EPA, is the equivalent of 65 mpg. But thats for the first 25 miles or so, on battery alone.
8. GM says recharge times are about 4 hours with a 240-volt supply, and 10 to 12 hours with 120 volts. Our Volt has been taking almost 13 kWh in about 5 hours every time we charge. Volt buyers should purchase a 220-volt (Level 2) charger.
a. At the national average rate of 11 cents per kWh, the Volt costs about 5.7 cents per mile in electric mode and 10 cents a mile after that- if gas is $3 per gallon.
b. A Toyota Prius costs 6.8 cents per mile, and a gas powered Honda Fit costs about 10 cents per mile (but the price is less than half of that of the Volt).
9. In the Northeast, electricity cost is a lot higher. For example:
Sep. 22, 2010: ($0.27 per kWh)
Aug. 23, 2010: ($0.24 per kWh)
Jul. 23, 2010: ($0.29 per kWh)
Jun. 23, 2010: ($0.28 per kWh)
May 24, 2010: ($0.41 per kWh)
Apr. 23, 2010: ($0.87 per kWh) W303 » New York City Electricity Con Edison Kwh Charge History
10.So, the Volt works as an electric car with a gas backup .but it is not much of a money saver in many places. For now, the Volt is an expensive way to be green.
All hail Emperor Obama!!
He will take over the electric companies, ObamaWatt, and demand lower prices......
A few key FACTS PC failed to mention:
The Chevrolet Volt concept car debuted at the January 2007 North American International Auto Show, becoming the first-ever series plug-in hybrid concept car shown by a major car manufacturer.
The production design model officially unveiled on September 16, 2008, as part of General Motors centennial celebration at the Wintergarden headquarters in Detroit
In 2009, the Presidential Task Force on the Auto Industry said that "GM is at least one generation behind Toyota on advanced, green powertrain development. In an attempt to leapfrog Toyota, GM has devoted significant resources to the Chevy Volt." and that "while the Chevy Volt holds promise, it is currently projected to be much more expensive than its gasoline-fueled peers and will likely need substantial reductions in manufacturing cost in order to become commercially viable."
Chevrolet Volt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And THIS:
Bush Would Do it Again on Auto Bailouts
Former pres. tells dealers it prevented 21% unemployment.
It has become one of the rare things that binds the two men, the controversial automotive bailout that was begun by former President George W. Bush and completed by his successor, President Barrack Obama.
The latter defended his actions during the recent state-of-the-union address, during which he declared The U.S. auto industry is back. His predecessor used a meeting of the nations auto dealers to defend his own actions, insisting he had no other choice but to completely sink the American economy.
Id do it again, proclaimed Bush, speaking to the annual convention of the National Automobile Dealers Association.
The bailout, which ultimately totaled $85 billion, was originally begun during the waning days of the Bush Administration. With a specific rescue effort rejected by Congress, the former Commander-in-Chief decided to tap into a separate, $700 billion fund Capitol Hill did approve for the bailout of Wall Street and the banking industry.
Sometimes circumstances get in the way of philosophy, said the ex-President, during his speech in Las Vegas, referring to his normal stand in favor of free trade. If you make a bad decision, you ought to pay, he said, referring to the collapse of both General Motors and Chrysler.
But Bush also noted that coming on top of the failure of Lehman Brothers, the meltdown of the banking industry and the collapse of the housing market, a painful shift in policy was needed.
I didnt want there to be 21% unemployment, he stressed, echoing forecasts at the time that the loss of GM, Ford and the automotive lenders also covered by the bailout could lead to the loss of 1 million jobs.
Bush Would
1. The following from the April 2011 Consumer Reports
2. Ours cost $43,700 including options; with a dealer markup, the total was $48,700.
3. There is a $7,500 electric vehicle tax credit.
4. A weak electric heater is problematic. It is quiet, has brisk acceleration, with a taut, supple ride. Due to the tepid warm air, the passengers were uncomfortable. When the temperature dips below 26, the engine will turn on even during the electric portion of the trip.
5. The mph is not meaningful without knowing a trips length, because calculating fuel economy depends on the ratio of electric to gasoline use.
a. Weve been getting between 23 and 28 mpg, due to the winters freeze. The cars electric range is very susceptible to cold weather since the heater runs on electricity.
b. Weve also found that an extended highway cruise shortens the electric range.
6. So, the fuel economy depends on your driving pattern. The more often and further you travel, the closer your overall energy use drops toward 30 mpg.
7. Based on energy use, the Volt has been averaging close to 2 miles per kilowatt-hour, which, according to the EPA, is the equivalent of 65 mpg. But thats for the first 25 miles or so, on battery alone.
8. GM says recharge times are about 4 hours with a 240-volt supply, and 10 to 12 hours with 120 volts. Our Volt has been taking almost 13 kWh in about 5 hours every time we charge. Volt buyers should purchase a 220-volt (Level 2) charger.
a. At the national average rate of 11 cents per kWh, the Volt costs about 5.7 cents per mile in electric mode and 10 cents a mile after that- if gas is $3 per gallon.
b. A Toyota Prius costs 6.8 cents per mile, and a gas powered Honda Fit costs about 10 cents per mile (but the price is less than half of that of the Volt).
9. In the Northeast, electricity cost is a lot higher. For example:
Sep. 22, 2010: ($0.27 per kWh)
Aug. 23, 2010: ($0.24 per kWh)
Jul. 23, 2010: ($0.29 per kWh)
Jun. 23, 2010: ($0.28 per kWh)
May 24, 2010: ($0.41 per kWh)
Apr. 23, 2010: ($0.87 per kWh) W303 » New York City Electricity Con Edison Kwh Charge History
10.So, the Volt works as an electric car with a gas backup .but it is not much of a money saver in many places. For now, the Volt is an expensive way to be green.
All hail Emperor Obama!!
He will take over the electric companies, ObamaWatt, and demand lower prices......
A few key FACTS PC failed to mention:
The Chevrolet Volt concept car debuted at the January 2007 North American International Auto Show, becoming the first-ever series plug-in hybrid concept car shown by a major car manufacturer.
The production design model officially unveiled on September 16, 2008, as part of General Motors centennial celebration at the Wintergarden headquarters in Detroit
In 2009, the Presidential Task Force on the Auto Industry said that "GM is at least one generation behind Toyota on advanced, green powertrain development. In an attempt to leapfrog Toyota, GM has devoted significant resources to the Chevy Volt." and that "while the Chevy Volt holds promise, it is currently projected to be much more expensive than its gasoline-fueled peers and will likely need substantial reductions in manufacturing cost in order to become commercially viable."
Chevrolet Volt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And THIS:
Bush Would Do it Again on Auto Bailouts
Former pres. tells dealers it prevented 21% unemployment.
It has become one of the rare things that binds the two men, the controversial automotive bailout that was begun by former President George W. Bush and completed by his successor, President Barrack Obama.
The latter defended his actions during the recent state-of-the-union address, during which he declared The U.S. auto industry is back. His predecessor used a meeting of the nations auto dealers to defend his own actions, insisting he had no other choice but to completely sink the American economy.
Id do it again, proclaimed Bush, speaking to the annual convention of the National Automobile Dealers Association.
The bailout, which ultimately totaled $85 billion, was originally begun during the waning days of the Bush Administration. With a specific rescue effort rejected by Congress, the former Commander-in-Chief decided to tap into a separate, $700 billion fund Capitol Hill did approve for the bailout of Wall Street and the banking industry.
Sometimes circumstances get in the way of philosophy, said the ex-President, during his speech in Las Vegas, referring to his normal stand in favor of free trade. If you make a bad decision, you ought to pay, he said, referring to the collapse of both General Motors and Chrysler.
But Bush also noted that coming on top of the failure of Lehman Brothers, the meltdown of the banking industry and the collapse of the housing market, a painful shift in policy was needed.
I didnt want there to be 21% unemployment, he stressed, echoing forecasts at the time that the loss of GM, Ford and the automotive lenders also covered by the bailout could lead to the loss of 1 million jobs.
Bush Would
1. The following from the April 2011 Consumer Reports
2. Ours cost $43,700 including options; with a dealer markup, the total was $48,700.
3. There is a $7,500 electric vehicle tax credit.
4. A weak electric heater is problematic. It is quiet, has brisk acceleration, with a taut, supple ride. Due to the tepid warm air, the passengers were uncomfortable. When the temperature dips below 26, the engine will turn on even during the electric portion of the trip.
5. The mph is not meaningful without knowing a trips length, because calculating fuel economy depends on the ratio of electric to gasoline use.
a. Weve been getting between 23 and 28 mpg, due to the winters freeze. The cars electric range is very susceptible to cold weather since the heater runs on electricity.
b. Weve also found that an extended highway cruise shortens the electric range.
6. So, the fuel economy depends on your driving pattern. The more often and further you travel, the closer your overall energy use drops toward 30 mpg.
7. Based on energy use, the Volt has been averaging close to 2 miles per kilowatt-hour, which, according to the EPA, is the equivalent of 65 mpg. But thats for the first 25 miles or so, on battery alone.
8. GM says recharge times are about 4 hours with a 240-volt supply, and 10 to 12 hours with 120 volts. Our Volt has been taking almost 13 kWh in about 5 hours every time we charge. Volt buyers should purchase a 220-volt (Level 2) charger.
a. At the national average rate of 11 cents per kWh, the Volt costs about 5.7 cents per mile in electric mode and 10 cents a mile after that- if gas is $3 per gallon.
b. A Toyota Prius costs 6.8 cents per mile, and a gas powered Honda Fit costs about 10 cents per mile (but the price is less than half of that of the Volt).
9. In the Northeast, electricity cost is a lot higher. For example:
Sep. 22, 2010: ($0.27 per kWh)
Aug. 23, 2010: ($0.24 per kWh)
Jul. 23, 2010: ($0.29 per kWh)
Jun. 23, 2010: ($0.28 per kWh)
May 24, 2010: ($0.41 per kWh)
Apr. 23, 2010: ($0.87 per kWh) W303 » New York City Electricity Con Edison Kwh Charge History
10.So, the Volt works as an electric car with a gas backup .but it is not much of a money saver in many places. For now, the Volt is an expensive way to be green.
All hail Emperor Obama!!
He will take over the electric companies, ObamaWatt, and demand lower prices......
A few key FACTS PC failed to mention:
The Chevrolet Volt concept car debuted at the January 2007 North American International Auto Show, becoming the first-ever series plug-in hybrid concept car shown by a major car manufacturer.
The production design model officially unveiled on September 16, 2008, as part of General Motors centennial celebration at the Wintergarden headquarters in Detroit
In 2009, the Presidential Task Force on the Auto Industry said that "GM is at least one generation behind Toyota on advanced, green powertrain development. In an attempt to leapfrog Toyota, GM has devoted significant resources to the Chevy Volt." and that "while the Chevy Volt holds promise, it is currently projected to be much more expensive than its gasoline-fueled peers and will likely need substantial reductions in manufacturing cost in order to become commercially viable."
Chevrolet Volt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And THIS:
Bush Would Do it Again on Auto Bailouts
Former pres. tells dealers it prevented 21% unemployment.
It has become one of the rare things that binds the two men, the controversial automotive bailout that was begun by former President George W. Bush and completed by his successor, President Barrack Obama.
The latter defended his actions during the recent state-of-the-union address, during which he declared The U.S. auto industry is back. His predecessor used a meeting of the nations auto dealers to defend his own actions, insisting he had no other choice but to completely sink the American economy.
Id do it again, proclaimed Bush, speaking to the annual convention of the National Automobile Dealers Association.
The bailout, which ultimately totaled $85 billion, was originally begun during the waning days of the Bush Administration. With a specific rescue effort rejected by Congress, the former Commander-in-Chief decided to tap into a separate, $700 billion fund Capitol Hill did approve for the bailout of Wall Street and the banking industry.
Sometimes circumstances get in the way of philosophy, said the ex-President, during his speech in Las Vegas, referring to his normal stand in favor of free trade. If you make a bad decision, you ought to pay, he said, referring to the collapse of both General Motors and Chrysler.
But Bush also noted that coming on top of the failure of Lehman Brothers, the meltdown of the banking industry and the collapse of the housing market, a painful shift in policy was needed.
I didnt want there to be 21% unemployment, he stressed, echoing forecasts at the time that the loss of GM, Ford and the automotive lenders also covered by the bailout could lead to the loss of 1 million jobs.
Bush Would
You have quoted my post in the same manner as Michael Jackson wore one glove: for no apparent reason.
My post quoted certain drawbacks to the vehicle, as explained by the April 2011 Consumer Reports magazine.
Ostensibly, the reason for your post...yet it had nothing to do with same.
You have merely lapsed into the default analysis: "Bush."
Perseveration of this sort is often found as a corollary of a number of mental disorders.
After careful review of your various posts, I conclude that one of the following two solutions is necessary to cure you: either lobotomy, or reincarnation.
No other anodyne is possible.
If and when you pass beyond this vale of tears, I hope you will consider leaving your head to a bonebank.
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A few key FACTS PC failed to mention:
The Chevrolet Volt concept car debuted at the January 2007 North American International Auto Show, becoming the first-ever series plug-in hybrid concept car shown by a major car manufacturer.
The production design model officially unveiled on September 16, 2008, as part of General Motors centennial celebration at the Wintergarden headquarters in Detroit
In 2009, the Presidential Task Force on the Auto Industry said that "GM is at least one generation behind Toyota on advanced, green powertrain development. In an attempt to leapfrog Toyota, GM has devoted significant resources to the Chevy Volt." and that "while the Chevy Volt holds promise, it is currently projected to be much more expensive than its gasoline-fueled peers and will likely need substantial reductions in manufacturing cost in order to become commercially viable."
Chevrolet Volt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And THIS:
Bush Would Do it Again on Auto Bailouts
Former pres. tells dealers it prevented 21% unemployment.
It has become one of the rare things that binds the two men, the controversial automotive bailout that was begun by former President George W. Bush and completed by his successor, President Barrack Obama.
The latter defended his actions during the recent state-of-the-union address, during which he declared The U.S. auto industry is back. His predecessor used a meeting of the nations auto dealers to defend his own actions, insisting he had no other choice but to completely sink the American economy.
Id do it again, proclaimed Bush, speaking to the annual convention of the National Automobile Dealers Association.
The bailout, which ultimately totaled $85 billion, was originally begun during the waning days of the Bush Administration. With a specific rescue effort rejected by Congress, the former Commander-in-Chief decided to tap into a separate, $700 billion fund Capitol Hill did approve for the bailout of Wall Street and the banking industry.
Sometimes circumstances get in the way of philosophy, said the ex-President, during his speech in Las Vegas, referring to his normal stand in favor of free trade. If you make a bad decision, you ought to pay, he said, referring to the collapse of both General Motors and Chrysler.
But Bush also noted that coming on top of the failure of Lehman Brothers, the meltdown of the banking industry and the collapse of the housing market, a painful shift in policy was needed.
I didnt want there to be 21% unemployment, he stressed, echoing forecasts at the time that the loss of GM, Ford and the automotive lenders also covered by the bailout could lead to the loss of 1 million jobs.
Bush Would
You have quoted my post in the same manner as Michael Jackson wore one glove: for no apparent reason.
My post quoted certain drawbacks to the vehicle, as explained by the April 2011 Consumer Reports magazine.
Ostensibly, the reason for your post...yet it had nothing to do with same.
You have merely lapsed into the default analysis: "Bush."
Perseveration of this sort is often found as a corollary of a number of mental disorders.
After careful review of your various posts, I conclude that one of the following two solutions is necessary to cure you: either lobotomy, or reincarnation.
No other anodyne is possible.
If and when you pass beyond this vale of tears, I hope you will consider leaving your head to a bonebank.
A few MORE key FACTS PC failed to mention:
She claims her post merely "quoted certain drawbacks to the vehicle, as explained by the April 2011 Consumer Reports magazine"
Then she ties it all to President Obama.
1 "(Reuters) - General Motors Co sold a record number of Chevrolet Volt sedans in August but that probably isn't a good thing for the automaker's bottom line.
2. Nearly two years after the introduction of the path-breaking plug-in hybrid, GM is still losing as much as $49,000 on each Volt it builds, according to estimates provided to Reuters by industry analysts and manufacturing experts.
3. ...There are some Americans paying just $5,050 to drive around for two years in a vehicle that cost as much as $89,000 to produce.
4. GM is still years away from making money on the Volt, which will soon face new competitors from Ford, Honda and others. GM's basic problem is that "the Volt is over-engineered and over-priced," said Dennis Virag, president of the Michigan-based Automotive Consulting Group.
5. But the Volt's steep $39,995 base price and its complex technology the car uses expensive lithium-polymer batteries, sophisticated electronics and an electric motor combined with a gasoline engine have kept many prospective buyers away from Chevy showrooms.
6. ...the technical challenges of ownership, mainly related to charging the battery. Plug-in hybrids such as the Volt still take hours to fully charge the batteries -...
7. The lack of interest in the car has prevented GM from coming close to its early, optimistic sales projections."
Insight: GM's Volt - The ugly math of low sales, high costs | Reuters
And....let's see what could have been learned from a study of history....
8. The Trabant is an automobile that was produced by former East German auto maker VEB Sachsenring Automobilwerke Zwickau in Zwickau, Sachsen. It was the most common vehicle in East Germany, and was also exported to countries both inside and outside the communist bloc. The main selling point was that it had room for four adults and luggage in a compact, light and durable shell. Despite its mediocre performance and smoky two-stroke engine, the car is regarded with derisive affection as a symbol of the failed former East Germany and of the fall of communism (in former West Germany, as many East Germans streamed into West Berlin and West Germany in their Trabants after the opening of the Berlin Wall in 1989). For advocates of capitalism it is often cited as an example of the disadvantages of centralized planning as even refueling the car required lifting the hood, filling the tank with gasoline (only 24 litres[1]), then adding two-stroke oil and shaking it back and forth to mix. It was in production without any significant changes for nearly 30 years with 3,096,099 Trabants produced in total.
Trabant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
9. ....the man who goes to buy a car in Moscow, pays for it, and is told by the salesman that he can collect it on a particular date in 10 years' time. The buyer thinks for a moment and then asks: 'Morning or afternoon?' The salesman, astonished by the question, asks: 'What difference does it make?' And the buyer answers: 'Well, the plumber is coming in the morning.'
10. Stil think it's a good idea for the brilliant folks in government to be picking the winners and losers in the economy?
This is why this post belongs in politics rather than economy or technology.
This is what Obama supporters voted for.
I lived in Germany for 4 years and had the good fortune to be there when the wall came down. Trabants, Trabbies as they were called, flooded into Berlin. No matter what year they were made, they were all alike. They came in different colors. Driving behind them on the autobahn was comical. The back windows were as wide as the front and you could see all through the car and the people bouncing up and down as the rode. Looked like a car you'd see in a cartoon. At every rest stop, the Trabbies were lined up with the hoods up. They'd overheat quickly as the driver's tried in vain to keep up with the modern cars. And it was bad when they were in an accident. Even a minor fender bender practically caused them to disintegrate. Yea, the first people's car. About a year after the wall came down, a German toy factory made little matchbox size Trabants. I bought some for my boys, and still have them. I think the toys were actually made better than the real car.
I'm sure we'd all be driving around in smart cars if the libs had their way.
GM says all these RW cost estimates are total BS. The target group is people who commute less than 25 miles. Then they never have to buy gas. Road testers say 35-45 mpg runnig on the gas generator.
It's a great car, and the Pub propaganda machine has demonized it. As we know, anything Obama does is 180 degrees wrong, no matter WHAT LOL. Assume the position for the election.
Watch the road test above, see Motor Trend Car of the Year 2011. Rush and the rest ruined sales for THAT year.
Lost ANOTHER argument? Your record is still perfect....greatest control of the Pubcrappe media I've ever seen LOL
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Facts are so inconvenient for Rush/Foxetcbots...
