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30,000 Americans die each year by firearms
Well maybe we can offer them our thoughts and prayers
Well maybe we can offer them our thoughts and prayers
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A hundred people probably today will lose their lives as a result of a gunshot
And the vast majority of the perpetrators of gun crimes all over this country — a hundred people probably today will lose their lives as a result of a gunshot — those people, typically, do not have mental illness, with the exception of those who have suicide.
How do you protect soft targets like a concert?
And the vast majority of the perpetrators of gun crimes all over this country — a hundred people probably today will lose their lives as a result of a gunshot — those people, typically, do not have mental illness, with the exception of those who have suicide.
Are you really so retarded that you believe your little personal arsenal will protect you from the power of the police and military should the government ever decide to come after you?There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed.
The U.S. population is 324,059,091 as of June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.000000925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year.
What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:
• 65% of those deaths are by suicide, which would never be prevented by gun laws. 13,500 left
• 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified. 9k
• 3% are accidental discharge deaths. Down to 8100
• 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – better known as gun violence. 63% are committed by gang violence (5100). You know those black and Latino (mostly illegals) gang violence.
So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 8,100. Still too many?
Now lets look at how those deaths spanned across the nation.
• 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
• 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
• 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
• 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)
So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.
This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.
Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equal, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.
Are 8,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault are all done by criminals. It is ludicrous to think that criminals will obey laws. That is why they are called criminals.
But what about other deaths each year?
• 40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!
• 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths.
• 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide).
So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why tIt's pretty simple:
Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.
Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs. So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed."
Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia
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we don't refuse.But what about other deaths each year?
• 40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!
• 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths.
• 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide).
Our society does things to fight drug abuse.....just look at the number of people we have in prison
We take strong measures to fight influenza with flu shots and public safety measures
We have made great strides to make cars and roads safer and reduce drunk driving
Yet, we refuse to do anything about guns
Ahh cultural is your excuse. Why not here too?Japan has strict gun laws yet very HIGH suicide rates, go figure.How many people are shot and not killed?
Why don't suicides count ? Guns make it so much easier. You can't assume you'd have the same death rate if those people didn't happen to have a gun .
More of a cultural thing to handle disgrace
Yet YOU insist more firearms means more deaths so it IS relevant.You have no direct correlation
Homicides have gone down since 1990 regardless of strict gun laws or lax gun laws
It is due to the end of the crack wars in the 1990s and has nothing to do with the number of guns on the street
And the vast majority of the perpetrators of gun crimes all over this country — a hundred people probably today will lose their lives as a result of a gunshot — those people, typically, do not have mental illness, with the exception of those who have suicide.
How do you protect soft targets like a concert?
No an issue. Its Acceptable Risk to live in America and call yourself American
-Geaux
There are 30,000 gun related deaths per year by firearms, and this number is not disputed.
The U.S. population is 324,059,091 as of June 22, 2016. Do the math: 0.000000925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year.
What is never told, however, is a breakdown of those 30,000 deaths, to put them in perspective as compared to other causes of death:
• 65% of those deaths are by suicide, which would never be prevented by gun laws. 13,500 left
• 15% are by law enforcement in the line of duty and justified. 9k
• 3% are accidental discharge deaths. Down to 8100
• 17% are through criminal activity, gang and drug related or mentally ill persons – better known as gun violence. 63% are committed by gang violence (5100). You know those black and Latino (mostly illegals) gang violence.
So technically, "gun violence" is not 30,000 annually, but drops to 8,100. Still too many?
Now lets look at how those deaths spanned across the nation.
• 480 homicides (9.4%) were in Chicago
• 344 homicides (6.7%) were in Baltimore
• 333 homicides (6.5%) were in Detroit
• 119 homicides (2.3%) were in Washington D.C. (a 54% increase over prior years)
So basically, 25% of all gun crime happens in just 4 cities. All 4 of those cities have strict gun laws, so it is not the lack of law that is the root cause.
This basically leaves 3,825 for the entire rest of the nation, or about 75 deaths per state. That is an average because some States have much higher rates than others. For example, California had 1,169 and Alabama had 1.
Now, who has the strictest gun laws by far? California, of course, but understand, it is not guns causing this. It is a crime rate spawned by the number of criminal persons residing in those cities and states. So if all cities and states are not created equal, then there must be something other than the tool causing the gun deaths.
Are 8,100 deaths per year horrific? How about in comparison to other deaths? All death is sad and especially so when it is in the commission of a crime but that is the nature of crime. Robbery, death, rape, assault are all done by criminals. It is ludicrous to think that criminals will obey laws. That is why they are called criminals.
But what about other deaths each year?
• 40,000+ die from a drug overdose–THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT!
• 36,000 people die per year from the flu, far exceeding the criminal gun deaths.
• 34,000 people die per year in traffic fatalities(exceeding gun deaths even if you include suicide).
So you have to ask yourself, in the grand scheme of things, why tIt's pretty simple:
Taking away guns gives control to governments. The founders of this nation knew that regardless of the form of government, those in power may become corrupt and seek to rule as the British did by trying to disarm the populace of the colonies. It is not difficult to understand that a disarmed populace is a controlled populace.
Thus, the second amendment was proudly and boldly included in the U.S. Constitution. It must be preserved at all costs. So the next time someone tries to tell you that gun control is about saving lives, look at these facts and remember these words from Noah Webster: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed."
Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia
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BTW, has anybody found out why he did it?
You just don't kill people because you can get a gun.
Yeah? What do you get fromIf you did it right, you'll get 9.25e-05. That is 0.0000925. Round it and you get 0.0001%Do the math. Aristotle! ffs.Do the math: 0.000000925% of the population dies from gun related actions each year.
I get 0.009%.
Call it 0.01%
What planet does your arithmetic come from?
Chicago has among the strictest gun control laws in the nation.
526 people have been murdered with guns in Chicago so far this year.
Murder is already illegal. More gun control doesn't change that.