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Toddy,
Toddy,
No testes, no yappy...
2.68
v.
1.48
That's on the spending side.
Now let's move to the revenue side
1.92
v.
2.71
Now, Toddy.....for the kipper...
Assuming both began with budgets of 100 and receipts of 100 (a balanced budget), where would each be after 16 years?
Stop...If you can't even acknowledge Obama's baseline starting point, all your
calculations are pointless.
Come on, you can do it. Repeat after me.....
"Counting $572 billion in TARP loans as legitimate baseline spending is dishonest"
You're either too stupid or too partisan to admit it.
If you can't even acknowledge Obama's baseline starting point, all your
calculations are pointless.
Come on, you can do it. Repeat after me.....
"Counting $572 billion in TARP loans as legitimate baseline spending is dishonest"
You're either too stupid or too partisan to admit it.
Yell that at anyone doing so."Counting $572 billion in TARP loans as legitimate baseline spending is dishonest"
Stop...
Again.
We proceed from the Known.....
Once we have established what the Known indicates, we can begin to consider qualifications.
Now, Toddy....ALL YOU HAVE TO DO AT THIS JUNCTURE IS MOVE DECIMAL POINTS TWO DIGITS TO THE RIGHT.
CAN YOU DO THAT MUCH, TODDY?
Yell that at anyone doing so.
No.You're not counting it as baseline spending?
Yes...about 140 billion.We proceed from the Known.....
You didn't know that Obama added his own spending to FY 2009?
You didn't know that temporary TARP loans shouldn't be added to the FY 2009 baseline?
Yes...about 140 billion.
Roughly equivalent to the ESAs which are excluded from the number.
No one has added the 480 billion AUTHORIZED to the FY2009 baseline.
No they weren't.Yes...about 140 billion.
Roughly equivalent to the ESAs which are excluded from the number.
ESAs spent in FY 2009 are counted in FY 2009 spending.
No one has added the 480 billion AUTHORIZED to the FY2009 baseline.
It looks like you did. In your OP.
No they weren't.
No, I didn't.
The number is sourced.
Toddy,If you have a source that proves ESA spending in FY 2009 doesn't show up in
the FY 2009 spending totals, I'd love to see it.
Meanwhile, your totals in the OP included TARP loan "spending".
thise are only numbers, which can only be correct if dear leader makes them up on the fly. to convince your "kling on" you need to address his "feelingz"As many of you may have noticed, this here Horseman has zero tolerance for Graduates of the Maria Bartiromo School of Duh!
Accordingly, one of her attentives has been taking a ferocious macing at the side of my steed (why he clings to my stirrup, I cannot fathom).
Specifically, we are examining the conceit that "Democrats spend like drunken sailors" and are therefore not only complicit in, but largely responsible, for our current level of Debt Held by The Public.
To do so, we will compares CAGRs (Compound Annual Growth Rates) of spending and revenue collection for each POTUS going back to 1979.
The numbers are as follows (in billions)
At t=0, Sept 30, 1981
Spending - 678.2 Revenue - 599.3
Reagan (end of term)
Spending - 1143
Revenue - 991
Annual Growth Rates
6.7%/6/4%
Bush
Spending - 1409
Revenue -1154
5.36/3.88
Clinton
Spending - 1862
Revenue - 1991
3.5/7.05
Bush II
Spending - 3517
Revenue - 2105
8.3/0.7
Obama
Spending - 3981
Revenues - 3316
1.56/5.8
Trump
Spending - 4.7*
Revenues - 3.5*
5.7/1.8
* to avoid the bitter tears and recriminations, I have used Grifty's last WH Budget request, and extrapolated the deficit based on trend. Subtracting this from Outlays should be equal to Revenues.
Will this require further elaboration?
Toddster,Dems are budget hawks.....I laugh every time I think about your claim.
Toddy,
You're not owed anything.
Can you move the decimal points?
By how much would each be in deficit or surplus after 16 years?
I haven't said that either.It's a good thing you don't owe me anything, because you'd be in default.
You keep telling yourself that Presidents get to spend whatever they'd like
with no input from Congress.
I'll keep pointing and laughing.
I haven't said that either.
Now answer ONE question.
