9/11: The real answer.

[SlateRockwell]

Hey Sarge!
Can you explain the explosive residue in the debris?
You are the PRIME example of what I am talking about with the insults. Doesn't suprise me that you are a cop. MR. KNOWITALL because I am a cop.
I am sure that you are smarter than the scientist that actually did the tests... Tell me how there was residue in the debris? COME ON SARGE... are you going to be outwitted by a "Retard"? Answer the question and don't beat around the bush!

 

[candycorn]

Hey Sarge!
Can you explain the explosive residue in the debris?
You are the PRIME example of what I am talking about with the insults. Doesn't suprise me that you are a cop. MR. KNOWITALL because I am a cop.
I am sure that you are smarter than the scientist that actually did the tests... Tell me how there was residue in the debris? COME ON SARGE... are you going to be outwitted by a "Retard"? Answer the question and don't beat around the bush!

You're a cop?

 

[KissMy]

The best question of all is HOW DID THE BUILDINGS FALL SO FAST? Nobody can explain this either!

You know you people should just look at all of the facts before you insult people and once again show your ignorance!
You can call me whatever you want (Retards, dumbasses, truthers etc.) That just proves that you cannot explain what I am asking!
WAIT! DON'T FEEL BAD! NOR CAN OUR GOVERNMENT!

what do you mean? Are you asking how did they fall at the speed of gravity? or why did they not stand for hours after the attack?

 

[SlateRockwell]

Sorry it's not pretty... I work off of an Iphone.
Watch the entire videos.

HERE YOU GO CANDYCORN!
This will show you that you don't know all of the facts!

The only other question for you is... How can you defend something that you know hardly anything of?


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[SlateRockwell]

I am not a cop... Of course not!
I am talking to sarge.

I messed up when I put that up.
I was calling sarge "Mr. Know it all because I am a cop."

 

[KissMy]

None of your videos are working SlateRockwell. However I have seen this series & I am a Jesse Ventura fan, but he did a poor job in this video. The main compelling evidence was the person who found the black box. The info about what was on the CVR tape has not convinced me. Most CRVs have a 30 minute loop & those planes were in the air more than 30 minutes prior to impact. So to say the hijackers were in the cockpit prior to take off is a stretch.

 

[candycorn]

Candycorn, YOU NEVER HEARD OF THE EXPLOSION AT THE BOTTOM OF THE BUILDING?
WHY ARE YOU ARGUING THEN? LOOK AT ALL OF THE FACTS! William Rodrigues was one of the last people out of the second 9/11 building. NOT ONLY DOES HE SAY THERE WAS AN EXPLOSION! HE IS ONE OF 25!!! YOU HAVE THE INTERNET LOOK IT UP!
I JUST WATCHED THE VIDEO ON IT AND IF YOU CONTINUE TO SHOW YOUR IGNORANCE I WILL POST IT!

Scientist have PROVEN 100% that there was explosion residue in the debri! SONNY!

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttlIXUmd3f0]YouTube - William Rodriguez vs Kevin Mcpadden[/ame]





Your move:

 

[SlateRockwell]

I told you I use an Iphone. Sorry I tryed to get the videos to work.
Kissmy, I am showing Candycorn the FACT that people that were in the building say that there was an EXPLOSION at the bottom of the building.

Candycorn thinks just because it was not heard by Candycorn... It was NEVER said.

I am a huge Jesse Ventura fan.
Kissmy, what did you think of the scientist that says there is residue of explosives in the debris?

 

[candycorn]

None of your videos are working SlateRockwell. However I have seen this series & I am a Jesse Ventura fan, but he did a poor job in this video. The main compelling evidence was the person who found the black box. The info about what was on the CVR tape has not convinced me. Most CRVs have a 30 minute loop & those planes were in the air more than 30 minutes prior to impact. So to say the hijackers were in the cockpit prior to take off is a stretch.

THe LCBS agrees with you:

Thursday, December 10, 2009
Jesse Ventura's 9-11 Conspiracy Theory

That was an interesting, if stupifying hour of TV. One noticeable point was that there was almost no advertising during the episode, which presumably reflects the controversial nature of the show.

Jesse quickly clads himself in the old "I'm just asking questions for the family members," armor. Donna Marsh O'Connor appears and actually seems normal. Compare and contrast her appearance then with this from 2006:

see link for youtube video.

One can feel sorry for her while at the same time recognizing like five years later she should not be appearing at a rally with the 9-11 fruitcake "Inside Job" banner behind her. Sorry, Donna, but you and Bob McIlvaine (who appears later) have sold your credibility as 9-11 family members for the adulation of the Troofers.

Next up, Willie Rodriguez. Hilariously, Jesse claims Willie worked in WTC-2. Wow, way to fact check your stuff, guys. We get W-Rod's claim that he felt the explosion from below him. Never mind that his initial reports were that he heard a big rumble, remember?

see link for youtube video.

Then comes Steven Jones. This time his substance is "superthermite"; it's been nanothermite, thermite and thermate in the past. It's liquid and can be painted on the steel. So they show poor Van Romero painting superthermite on this beam. And we see that while the unpainted beam did not catch fire, the painted beam did seem to light up. But will it fail structurally?

Well, no kidding they skip right over that part. Apparently the idea that the steel caught on fire, however briefly, is enough to convince Jesse that this was how they did it. And nobody stops to mention that the claim is that they destroyed columns (vertical) not beams (horizontal), and that we haven't seen the beam actually destroyed in the video by any means. It's another TrutherBurn fiasco!

Jesse makes it real by claiming it could be everywhere, in every highrise in the country. Because, you know, there are never any fires in highrises which would (according to the theory) suddenly and bizarrely implode due to that painted-on superthermite.

We get a little bit of Manny Badillo, who has basically supplanted Luke in the hierarchy of the 9-11 Troofers although Rudkowski does get to be in the background of the shot. I guess being the nephew of a victim gives Manny a little more credibility than being the boyfriend of a girl who used to go out with a guy whose father died on 9-11.

Jesse decides to stride into Ground Zero and get some samples of steel. Uh, Jess, it's been eight years, we have no steel samples here. We get the usual BS about how the steel was shipped out immediately. No mention of the Fresh Kills dump where everything was examined.

And oh, does he step completely into the sewer, from here on in. I can't imagine how the supposedly responsible Truthers are going to take this.

Jesse goes north to Syracuse to talk to phony Bellone. We learn helpfully from Jesse that Flight Data Recorders (FDRs) are yellow-striped. And at this point you've got to wonder if somebody's really throwing us all a wink, because (as is shown several times during the show) actually FDRs are orange.

Anyway, Mike Bellone is a discredited witness, but you'd never know that from the extensive face time he gets in this episode. Let's let the NY Daily News give it to us straight:

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FIRE MARSHALS ARRESTED a self-proclaimed "honorary firefighter" for allegedly touring the country with pilfered FDNY gear to promote a 9/11 book, officials said yesterday.

Michael Bellone, 51, of Brooklyn, who volunteered at Ground Zero and later collaborated on a book about the experience, showed off the equipment during speeches to schoolchildren, authorities said.

After fielding complaints, FDNY investigators questioned Bellone and discovered that a breathing mask, air tank and other gear he was using had been missing from the department since October 2001, officials said.

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But do we hear any of this during the breathless passages of smirk-terviewing that follow? No, Mike's a hero of 9-11, and so what he says must be true. Never mind that Bellone also claimed in his speeches to schoolchildren that he was an honorary FDNY member, never mind this:

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He was charged yesterday with grand larceny, criminal impersonation and possession of stolen property.
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At any rate, Bellone claims that he personally saw one Flight Data Recorder, and that "Nick" (generally identified as Nicholas DeMasi) told him he found two others. As you would expect, Jesse grills him on his claims.

Uh, no, Jesse looks like he's amazed at this. Wow, you went all the way to Syracuse to interview this guy in a diner and you didn't have any idea what he was going to tell you? Jesse, I knew what he was going to say.

So now the 9-11 Truth Movement is the "what happened to the black boxes movement." Because fully half of the show becomes Jesse on the trail of the FDRs, and leads to the show's climactic moment, when we learn Jesse's new conspiracy theory about 9-11.

When one of the producers questions the value of the black boxes, an obviously scripted bit comes with the black British woman snapping about how it might explain how these lousy pilots could hit the buildings. Yawn, how many times do we have to go over the same points? The towers were 210 feet on a side, wider than an average runway.

After some forgettable bits with other idiots, we go back to Bellone. He's got secret people who want to meet with Jesse to give him important 9-11 information. But they don't show up for the meeting and Bellone says they feel threatened and shut off the camera. Then he tells them something confidential off-camera. Ooooh, mysterious! Do I detect foreshadowing? Then we get Jesse leaving a message on some supposed informant's voice mail about how the "Truth shall set you free". Gawd, this is getting thick!

Later, back at Conspiracy Central, the question comes up, is Mike telling the truth? And once again, they fail to mention Bellone's problems in that regard. Then we get some bit with Jesse talking to a NY FBI agent. Jesse tries the "no steel structure" argument. They get some sort of quote from the poor guy about how the feds indeed sometimes do things surreptitiously, just as Jesse did when he was in the SEALs. Of course Jesse nods at this part.

And now, back to phony Bellone! You didn't think we'd leave the show without one last revelation from him, did you? Well, I've been covering the 9-11 Truthers for about 3-1/2 years now, and I've never heard this one before. Bellone claims to have evidence that the "hijackers" had control of Flight 11 before it left Logan Airport.

Wow. I'm flabbergasted at the pathetic nature of this episode. Even the guy who's supposed to be the skeptic (Alex Piper) should be ashamed of his participation in this ridiculous fraud.

Update: Let me add here that while Bellone's claims are laughable, according to this NY Times piece, he really did work on the pile:

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Mr. Bellone was a burly nightclub bouncer from Brooklyn with training as an emergency medical technician when he went down to the Pit (sic). Except for some Saturday nights back at the club where he worked, he said he spent virtually all of the next nine months at ground zero.
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But he also claimed to have been an "honorary FDNY" which proved to be false, and his claims on Jesse's show were a joke.

Screw Loose Change

 

[SlateRockwell]

CANDYCORN!
You said you never heard anyone say there was an explosive at the bottom?
ARE YOU NOT TELLING THE TRUTH? Or do you trust a video that you just watched 10secs ago?
Again, Why are you arguing something that you don't even know the facts of?

According to you. You said "I never heard of an explosion at the bottom of the building"
THERE's YOUR VIDEO!
What about now?

 

[candycorn]

I told you I use an Iphone. Sorry I tryed to get the videos to work.
Kissmy, I am showing Candycorn the FACT that people that were in the building say that there was an EXPLOSION at the bottom of the building.

Candycorn thinks just because it was not heard by Candycorn... It was NEVER said.

I am a huge Jesse Ventura fan.
Kissmy, what did you think of the scientist that says there is residue of explosives in the debris?

Slate; watch this please:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttlIXUmd3f0]YouTube - William Rodriguez vs Kevin Mcpadden[/ame]

Willie isn't exactly telling the truth.

 

[KissMy]

I told you I use an Iphone. Sorry I tryed to get the videos to work.
Kissmy, I am showing Candycorn the FACT that people that were in the building say that there was an EXPLOSION at the bottom of the building.

Candycorn thinks just because it was not heard by Candycorn... It was NEVER said.

I am a huge Jesse Ventura fan.
Kissmy, what did you think of the scientist that says there is residue of explosives in the debris?

I do not know why Jesse went to the locked airport to not show us metal attacked by thermite. Molten aluminum from airplanes & rusty steel does create thermite & exothermic reactions. Also the entire exterior of WTC 1&2 was aluminum. This could be the molten metal people saw.

I do suspect a false flag attack like Jesse but I could do a lot better job proving it.

 

[candycorn]

CANDYCORN!
You said you never heard anyone say there was an explosive at the bottom?
ARE YOU NOT TELLING THE TRUTH? Or do you trust a video that you just watched 10secs ago?
Again, Why are you arguing something that you don't even know the facts of?

According to you. You said "I never heard of an explosion at the bottom of the building"
THERE's YOUR VIDEO!
What about now?

Willie said there was a rumble when CNN interviewed him. Then it became some sort of explosion later on when more morons began to buy his story.

Its all there for you to view if you wish to. The 9/11 Commission Report says fuel reached level B4. Assuming there was something that could be heated and explode due to that heat, there may have been an explosion due to the jet fuel cascading down the elevator shafts. However, the lobby where FDNY had a command post set up and where thousands of people evacuated was not compromised by this supposed explosion.

You should also remember that an explosion isn't indicative 100% of planted explosives.

 

[candycorn]

I told you I use an Iphone. Sorry I tryed to get the videos to work.
Kissmy, I am showing Candycorn the FACT that people that were in the building say that there was an EXPLOSION at the bottom of the building.

Candycorn thinks just because it was not heard by Candycorn... It was NEVER said.

I am a huge Jesse Ventura fan.
Kissmy, what did you think of the scientist that says there is residue of explosives in the debris?

I do not know why Jesse went to the locked airport to not show us metal attacked by thermite. Molten aluminum from airplanes & rusty steel does create thermite & exothermic reactions. Also the entire exterior of WTC 1&2 was aluminum. This could be the molten metal people saw.

I do suspect a false flag attack like Jesse but I could do a lot better job proving it.

Oh brother.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I told you I use an Iphone. Sorry I tryed to get the videos to work.
Kissmy, I am showing Candycorn the FACT that people that were in the building say that there was an EXPLOSION at the bottom of the building.

Candycorn thinks just because it was not heard by Candycorn... It was NEVER said.

I am a huge Jesse Ventura fan.
Kissmy, what did you think of the scientist that says there is residue of explosives in the debris?

I do not know why Jesse went to the locked airport to not show us metal attacked by thermite. Molten aluminum from airplanes & rusty steel does create thermite & exothermic reactions. Also the entire exterior of WTC 1&2 was aluminum. This could be the molten metal people saw.

I do suspect a false flag attack like Jesse but I could do a lot better job proving it.

Oh brother.

We have a whole cadre of delusional people on this board. Some even hide the fact they believe it, you just catch them now and again siding with the troofers.

 

[KissMy]

Here is one of many things I can't explain. Even though WTC#7 had about 40,000 gallons of fuel inside to power generators for tenants & could have brought down this building. Why was this WTC#7 beam destroyed by some kind of reaction other than just giving way due to pure heat? This building did not have an aluminum plane inside to create thermitic reactions & had no aluminum exterior.

 

[SlateRockwell]

Candycorn, I just got done watching the video you posted... The first time.
A BIG rumble and an EXPLOSION are not far off.
The fact that he was asked when it first happened he was shook up. That would be a GREAT excuse. The REASON is, he is obviously changing the facts to make them sound better.
But my question is... WHY WOULD HE LIE ON 9/11? He had no reason.
The fact that he told the story of the rumble in the first place means it happened.

My other question is... Where are the other people that were IN the building that say that didn't happen?????
I am sure somebody would say that's false. I haven't heard someones story where there was no explosion.

 

[SlateRockwell]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&feature=youtube_gdata]YouTube - 9/11: Total Proof That Bombs Were Planted In The Buildings![/ame]

WATCH THIS VIDEO.
Here's even more proof that there was more than a plane. These news reports are on 9/11. This is before the media/government could get there story straight.

I have seen this video for quite some time. I haven't put it up for I don't know how to put up videos correctly. But... I hope this works.

 

[candycorn]

Candycorn, I just got done watching the video you posted... The first time.
A BIG rumble and an EXPLOSION are not far off.
The fact that he was asked when it first happened he was shook up. That would be a GREAT excuse. The REASON is, he is obviously changing the facts to make them sound better.
But my question is... WHY WOULD HE LIE ON 9/11? He had no reason.
The fact that he told the story of the rumble in the first place means it happened.

My other question is... Where are the other people that were IN the building that say that didn't happen?????
I am sure somebody would say that's false. I haven't heard someones story where there was no explosion.

It means a rumble happened; not an explosion. Why would he lie? I don't think he lied about a rumble or that there was a guy who got burned in the basement. You'll recall the 9/11 Commission Report says that fuel reached the basement. Thats where he says he was.

I think he's lying about an explosion underneath him. Why would he? Noteriety for one thing. TV shows don't interview you when you say, "I didn't see anything" now do they?

The fact of the matter is he changed his story...right? Do you disagree?

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This is where twoofers break out their scalpels and begin splitting hairs. I'm guessing Slatty will now try to devine some higher meaning from the word "rumble" or at this point, try to tie "rumble" to an explosion. Lets watch....Now back to your regularly scheduled debunking.

The other fact is that Ventura relies on "witnesses" who are very suspect especially the guy who was arrested for impersonating a fire-fighter and calls himself an "honorary fire fighter" LOL. Steven Jones is only given attention when twoofers bring him up.

Your videos don't work so I didn't see them; the thermite they painted on the LATERAL beam....did it go "boom"? Thermite isn't an explosive dude so if you have booms, you don't have thermite and gee, W-Rod takes another blow to his "story".

 

[candycorn]

Here is one of many things I can't explain. Even though WTC#7 had about 40,000 gallons of fuel inside to power generators for tenants & could have brought down this building. Why was this WTC#7 beam destroyed by some kind of reaction other than just giving way due to pure heat? This building did not have an aluminum plane inside to create thermitic reactions & had no aluminum exterior.

Did you know a full corner up to the 20th floor of the building was missing as a result of two of the world's largest buildings collapsing within a very close distance?