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and i know people from therethe State of HI doesn't release the original long form BCobama birth certificate has never been photocopied and released....that is a bald face lie....it is a typed/computer generated copy that serves only as prima facie evidence....the original has never been released
what you've seen is what they do release
Bingo. This is the same thing that anyone from Hawaii has for a birth certificate. We have plenty of Hawaiians on the record stating that they're BC's are exactly the same.
Finally....Someone that isn't just a moron looking for anyone they can to call a moron. The people on this thread that are calling names and say it has been proven are just brainwashed main stream media watchers with one foot in the grave and the other in their mouth. You people that claim it has been proven are liars and shills and probably work for the government. No one has proven anything and in fact Mr. B.H.B. (isn't that a drug?) has spent hundreds of thousands to keep this out of court...Why??? Because he knows it isn't true. What has been shown is a condensed "COPY". A computer generated FAX. It is not the original certificate of birth that shows the doctor, the mother and father, and the state and time and location. Why can't he just produce the original? If someone asked me to produce the original of my certificate of birth, I would pay the $25.00 and have it in about a week! We wan't to seee the original and test it for age and authenticity. If there is nothing to hide...SHOW THE FUCKING ORIGINAL!obama birth certificate has never been photocopied and released....that is a bald face lie....it is a typed/computer generated copy that serves only as prima facie evidence....the original has never been released
Good God, the fruitcakes are really getting ripe! What a pathetic bunch of losers you people are. President Obama won the election fair and square. The American Citizen was fed up with Conservative incompetance, lies, and corruption. 365 electorial votes. 60 Dem Senetors. 265 Dem Reps. Don't you guys get the message? Nobody believes any of your shit anymore!
Finally....Someone that isn't just a moron looking for anyone they can to call a moron. The people on this thread that are calling names and say it has been proven are just brainwashed main stream media watchers with one foot in the grave and the other in their mouth. You people that claim it has been proven are liars and shills and probably work for the government. No one has proven anything and in fact Mr. B.H.B. (isn't that a drug?) has spent hundreds of thousands to keep this out of court...Why??? Because he knows it isn't true. What has been shown is a condensed "COPY". A computer generated FAX. It is not the original certificate of birth that shows the doctor, the mother and father, and the state and time and location. Why can't he just produce the original? If someone asked me to produce the original of my certificate of birth, I would pay the $25.00 and have it in about a week! We wan't to seee the original and test it for age and authenticity. If there is nothing to hide...SHOW THE FUCKING ORIGINAL!obama birth certificate has never been photocopied and released....that is a bald face lie....it is a typed/computer generated copy that serves only as prima facie evidence....the original has never been released
Finally....Someone that isn't just a moron looking for anyone they can to call a moron. The people on this thread that are calling names and say it has been proven are just brainwashed main stream media watchers with one foot in the grave and the other in their mouth. You people that claim it has been proven are liars and shills and probably work for the government. No one has proven anything and in fact Mr. B.H.B. (isn't that a drug?) has spent hundreds of thousands to keep this out of court...Why??? Because he knows it isn't true. What has been shown is a condensed "COPY". A computer generated FAX. It is not the original certificate of birth that shows the doctor, the mother and father, and the state and time and location. Why can't he just produce the original? If someone asked me to produce the original of my certificate of birth, I would pay the $25.00 and have it in about a week! We wan't to seee the original and test it for age and authenticity. If there is nothing to hide...SHOW THE FUCKING ORIGINAL!obama birth certificate has never been photocopied and released....that is a bald face lie....it is a typed/computer generated copy that serves only as prima facie evidence....the original has never been released
Finally....Someone that isn't just a moron looking for anyone they can to call a moron. The people on this thread that are calling names and say it has been proven are just brainwashed main stream media watchers with one foot in the grave and the other in their mouth. You people that claim it has been proven are liars and shills and probably work for the government. No one has proven anything and in fact Mr. B.H.B. (isn't that a drug?) has spent hundreds of thousands to keep this out of court...Why??? Because he knows it isn't true. What has been shown is a condensed "COPY". A computer generated FAX. It is not the original certificate of birth that shows the doctor, the mother and father, and the state and time and location. Why can't he just produce the original? If someone asked me to produce the original of my certificate of birth, I would pay the $25.00 and have it in about a week! We wan't to seee the original and test it for age and authenticity. If there is nothing to hide...SHOW THE FUCKING ORIGINAL!obama birth certificate has never been photocopied and released....that is a bald face lie....it is a typed/computer generated copy that serves only as prima facie evidence....the original has never been released
I am not up on this issue as much as some. I have seen the mediamatters story stating the certificate issue has already been proven and that Obama was born in Hawaii.
You clearly think something else - and on that same vein, I too wonder why Obama has not simply ordered the long version of the birth certificate and put this issue to bed.
And has he really spend hundreds of thousands defending against doing just that?
If true, that just ads more mystery to this whole thing.
I also don't understand the secrecy of his college transcripts. What is that all about unless it shows he is far less the genuis the media has built him up to be?
You people that claim it has been proven are liars and shills and probably work for the government.
the State of HI doesn't release the original long form BCobama birth certificate has never been photocopied and released....that is a bald face lie....it is a typed/computer generated copy that serves only as prima facie evidence....the original has never been released
what you've seen is what they do release
i dont believe that is correctthe State of HI doesn't release the original long form BCobama birth certificate has never been photocopied and released....that is a bald face lie....it is a typed/computer generated copy that serves only as prima facie evidence....the original has never been released
what you've seen is what they do release
yes they do....obama is the only one who can ask them to
i dont believe that is correctthe State of HI doesn't release the original long form BC
what you've seen is what they do release
yes they do....obama is the only one who can ask them to
only Obama can request the short form
they dont release the long form
i dont believe that is correctthe State of HI doesn't release the original long form BC
what you've seen is what they do release
yes they do....obama is the only one who can ask them to
only Obama can request the short form
they dont release the long form
§338-14.5 Copies of certificate; fees. The fees for certified copies of birth, marriage, divorce, or death certificates issued by the department of health shall consist of $10 for the first copy issued and $4 for each copy issued thereafter. These fees shall be collected for each single request for certified copies. All fees received for the issuance of certified copies of birth, marriage, divorce, or death certificates shall be remitted to the director of health.
§338-19 Photostatic or typewritten copies of records. The department of health is authorized to prepare typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies of any records and files in its office, which by reason of age, usage, or otherwise are in such condition that they can no longer be conveniently consulted or used without danger of serious injury or destruction thereof, and to certify to the correctness of such copies. The typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies shall be competent evidence in all courts of the State with like force and effect as the original.
i dont believe that is correctyes they do....obama is the only one who can ask them to
only Obama can request the short form
they dont release the long form
§338-14.5 Copies of certificate; fees. The fees for certified copies of birth, marriage, divorce, or death certificates issued by the department of health shall consist of $10 for the first copy issued and $4 for each copy issued thereafter. These fees shall be collected for each single request for certified copies. All fees received for the issuance of certified copies of birth, marriage, divorce, or death certificates shall be remitted to the director of health.
its right there....birth certificate....
a typewritten (obama's "certification" not certificate of live birth) only has the same force as the original if the original is unavailable, damaged....etc...
§338-19 Photostatic or typewritten copies of records. The department of health is authorized to prepare typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies of any records and files in its office, which by reason of age, usage, or otherwise are in such condition that they can no longer be conveniently consulted or used without danger of serious injury or destruction thereof, and to certify to the correctness of such copies. The typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies shall be competent evidence in all courts of the State with like force and effect as the original.
additionally, hawaii has stated that the original is on file, thus available and there is zero evidence to suggest it cannot be photocopied by a request from obama or someone who has a tangible interest for a mere $10......
i dont believe that is correct
only Obama can request the short form
they dont release the long form
its right there....birth certificate....
a typewritten (obama's "certification" not certificate of live birth) only has the same force as the original if the original is unavailable, damaged....etc...
§338-19 Photostatic or typewritten copies of records. The department of health is authorized to prepare typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies of any records and files in its office, which by reason of age, usage, or otherwise are in such condition that they can no longer be conveniently consulted or used without danger of serious injury or destruction thereof, and to certify to the correctness of such copies. The typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies shall be competent evidence in all courts of the State with like force and effect as the original.
additionally, hawaii has stated that the original is on file, thus available and there is zero evidence to suggest it cannot be photocopied by a request from obama or someone who has a tangible interest for a mere $10......
Your problerm is with the Hawaii vital statistics people, not ANYONE who has asked for their BC.
Hawai‘i State Department of Health
The Department of health in Hawaii only offers certified copies. If you believe they are operating outside of the law, you could try to sue. Good luck.
its right there....birth certificate....
a typewritten (obama's "certification" not certificate of live birth) only has the same force as the original if the original is unavailable, damaged....etc...
additionally, hawaii has stated that the original is on file, thus available and there is zero evidence to suggest it cannot be photocopied by a request from obama or someone who has a tangible interest for a mere $10......
Your problerm is with the Hawaii vital statistics people, not ANYONE who has asked for their BC.
Hawai‘i State Department of Health
The Department of health in Hawaii only offers certified copies. If you believe they are operating outside of the law, you could try to sue. Good luck.
a certified copy of the original....good lord, did you even read the law posted...hawaii has stated they can only give a certified copy if a person with tangible interest has it and that yes, they have the original on file...as i showed, obama can request, for a mere $10, a certified copy of the original
Here is a link to some information for you.Finally....Someone that isn't just a moron looking for anyone they can to call a moron. The people on this thread that are calling names and say it has been proven are just brainwashed main stream media watchers with one foot in the grave and the other in their mouth. You people that claim it has been proven are liars and shills and probably work for the government. No one has proven anything and in fact Mr. B.H.B. (isn't that a drug?) has spent hundreds of thousands to keep this out of court...Why??? Because he knows it isn't true. What has been shown is a condensed "COPY". A computer generated FAX. It is not the original certificate of birth that shows the doctor, the mother and father, and the state and time and location. Why can't he just produce the original? If someone asked me to produce the original of my certificate of birth, I would pay the $25.00 and have it in about a week! We wan't to seee the original and test it for age and authenticity. If there is nothing to hide...SHOW THE FUCKING ORIGINAL!obama birth certificate has never been photocopied and released....that is a bald face lie....it is a typed/computer generated copy that serves only as prima facie evidence....the original has never been released
I am not up on this issue as much as some. I have seen the mediamatters story stating the certificate issue has already been proven and that Obama was born in Hawaii.
You clearly think something else - and on that same vein, I too wonder why Obama has not simply ordered the long version of the birth certificate and put this issue to bed.
And has he really spend hundreds of thousands defending against doing just that?
If true, that just ads more mystery to this whole thing.
I also don't understand the secrecy of his college transcripts. What is that all about unless it shows he is far less the genuis the media has built him up to be?
§338-19 Photostatic or typewritten copies of records. The department of health is authorized to prepare typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies of any records and files in its office, which by reason of age, usage, or otherwise are in such condition that they can no longer be conveniently consulted or used without danger of serious injury or destruction thereof, and to certify to the correctness of such copies. The typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies shall be competent evidence in all courts of the State with like force and effect as the original.
additionally, hawaii has stated that the original is on file, thus available and there is zero evidence to suggest it cannot be photocopied by a request from obama or someone who has a tangible interest for a mere $10......
§338-19 Photostatic or typewritten copies of records. The department of health is authorized to prepare typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies of any records and files in its office, which by reason of age, usage, or otherwise are in such condition that they can no longer be conveniently consulted or used without danger of serious injury or destruction thereof, and to certify to the correctness of such copies. The typewritten, photostatic, or microphotographic copies shall be competent evidence in all courts of the State with like force and effect as the original.
additionally, hawaii has stated that the original is on file, thus available and there is zero evidence to suggest it cannot be photocopied by a request from obama or someone who has a tangible interest for a mere $10......
One last thing Yurt, this law isn't about the public access to records. This is obviously about the state being able to preserve it's own records with photostatic copies, microfilm etc, when records become old, too old to be "consulted". There is nothing there about handinmg out or copying originals for the public. You get a certified copy.
you're such ass sweet willy...
what is the point in discussing this with you if you can't read simple sentences, call me a nutball when i have said i believe he is a citizen and my entire point is arguing the weirdness of why he won't produce a certified copy of the original....when the law i provided you clearly states HI can and the registrar of hawaii said they could not produce a copy of the original unless someone with a tangible interest (HI laws says obama has a tangible interest) requests one for $10....
if you can't accept that fact, then you're the nutcase