2014 is USA's Coolest Year on Record

[jc456]

Now don't go playing poor victim on me. The third world has contributed through population increase which has led to massive deforestation. But, at present, the primary increase in the GHG load in our atmosphere comes from North America and Europe. China and India are working overtime to contribute their fair share now, so that will have changed in another generation.

I am not interested in the blame game. I am interested in seeing that mankind's contributions to the CO2 and CH4 in the atmosphere rapidly decline. And, at the same time, that we maintain our wonderful standard of living, and see that of the third world nations continue to get better.

No problem can be solved by those denying it's very existance. And when those in denial
stand in the way of addressing the problem, they become part of the problem.

And what is it you intend to do to get the deniers out of the discussion?

 

[jc456]

Doesn't surprise me -- I don't think I even had to turn on a fan all summer.
Last winter, most frigid ever, couple of winters before that didn't even show up. No question weather is in upheaval.

Uncommonly hot October here.

Not cold once, much less any frost.

Not like the mini-Ice Age that had the "active climate change scientists" claiming we were all going to freeze, and the "cryptozoologists" claiming it would be so cold the Abominable Snowman might move to Europe.

Of course, the "ancient alien theorists" blamed it on exhaust from the spaceships of the "grays".

That did not happen, fellow. Even when we had that cool period, in the '70's, most of the scientists were predicting warming.

What were climate scientists predicting in the 1970s

The fact is that around 1970 there were 6 times as many scientists predicting a warming rather than a cooling planet. Today, with 30+years more data to analyse, we've reached a clear scientific consensus: 97% of working climate scientists agree with the view that human beings are causing global warming.

I don't care what you post, it is a lie. that is all a lie. WiNNiNg......

 

[jc456]

Those are some fine strawmen, complete with WelfareQueens flagrant race-card tossing, but, as is usual with denier arguments, they deliberately avoid the actual issues.

Saying we need to warm the planet now to avoid an ice age is every bit as stupid as claiming you have to run the furnace full blast in July to avoid getting cold in winter. And whining about greedy white men is also race-card tossing.

Just please stop making everything about race. Make it about science, like the rational people here do.

It is always, ALWAYS your side with the racist comments. how about them Koch brothers. you know the ones you talk about all the time? You simply can't help yourself. You are a jealous person . You know you are, you can't help yourself.

 

[boedicca]

Oh nooeessss!!1!!1!!!!!! We're all going to boil away due to Global Warming.



Not.

SCIENTISTS (from the government!), and we all know how much the Progs love to quote SCIENTISTS, have determined that the USA is having the Coolest Year on Record in 2014.

View attachment 33385


The percentage of US HCN stations to reach 90 degrees was the smallest on record this year, with four of the five coolest years occurring above 350 PPM CO2. The most widespread heat occurred in 1931, when more than 98% of stations were over 90 degrees.

NOAA s National Weather Service


HCN:

The Historical Climate Network (HCN) was identified in response to the need for the most accurate, unbiased, modern historical climate record available for detecting climate change in the US over the past 100 years or more, The HCN is a sub-network of Cooperative Observer Network (COOP) consisting of 1221 stations. The HCN stations are maintained by the NOAA’s NWS and the HCN data set is maintained by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center (NCDC). The HCN-M will sustain the Nation’s regional climate record through modernization of the HCN.

NOAA s National Weather Service

Everyone knows cooler temp is caused by Global Warming.

EVERYTHING causes global warming!

It's rather like all of Obama's Problems are Booooossssshhhhh's fault.

 

[boedicca]

If you are uncertain that the earth is warming, and you think that someone's messing with the temperature record, you only need look at the actual condition of the earth: the melting of land ice (glaciers) and the sea level rise, which are unexplainable in a cooling earth.

Ice? You mean things like the 29% INCREASE in Arctic ice last year?

A chilly Arctic summer has left 533,000 more square miles of ocean covered with ice than at the same time last year – an increase of 29 per cent.

The rebound from 2012’s record low comes six years after the BBC reported that global warming would leave the Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013.

Instead, days before the annual autumn re-freeze is due to begin, an unbroken ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the Canadian islands to Russia’s northern shores.....

And now it s global COOLING Return of Arctic ice cap as it grows by 29 in a year Daily Mail Online

 

[mudwhistle]

Doesn't surprise me -- I don't think I even had to turn on a fan all summer.
Last winter, most frigid ever, couple of winters before that didn't even show up. No question weather is in upheaval.

Uncommonly hot October here.

Not cold once, much less any frost.

Not like the mini-Ice Age that had the "active climate change scientists" claiming we were all going to freeze, and the "cryptozoologists" claiming it would be so cold the Abominable Snowman might move to Europe.

Of course, the "ancient alien theorists" blamed it on exhaust from the spaceships of the "grays".

That did not happen, fellow. Even when we had that cool period, in the '70's, most of the scientists were predicting warming.

What were climate scientists predicting in the 1970s

The fact is that around 1970 there were 6 times as many scientists predicting a warming rather than a cooling planet. Today, with 30+years more data to analyse, we've reached a clear scientific consensus: 97% of working climate scientists agree with the view that human beings are causing global warming.

Who you calling "FELLOW", you sum bitch????

 

[Impenitent]

If you are uncertain that the earth is warming, and you think that someone's messing with the temperature record, you only need look at the actual condition of the earth: the melting of land ice (glaciers) and the sea level rise, which are unexplainable in a cooling earth.

Ice? You mean things like the 29% INCREASE in Arctic ice last year?

A chilly Arctic summer has left 533,000 more square miles of ocean covered with ice than at the same time last year – an increase of 29 per cent.

The rebound from 2012’s record low comes six years after the BBC reported that global warming would leave the Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013.

Instead, days before the annual autumn re-freeze is due to begin, an unbroken ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the Canadian islands to Russia’s northern shores.....

And now it s global COOLING Return of Arctic ice cap as it grows by 29 in a year Daily Mail Online

That changes annually, and now it's all gone. This is 2014, and it's already reached its minimum at the 6th lowest figure of record.

But land ice is far different from sea ice. Only land ice melt (Greenland and Glaciers) can change sea level - and you cannot deny they are melting, and threatening coastal cities around the world.

 

[boedicca]

If you are uncertain that the earth is warming, and you think that someone's messing with the temperature record, you only need look at the actual condition of the earth: the melting of land ice (glaciers) and the sea level rise, which are unexplainable in a cooling earth.

Ice? You mean things like the 29% INCREASE in Arctic ice last year?

A chilly Arctic summer has left 533,000 more square miles of ocean covered with ice than at the same time last year – an increase of 29 per cent.

The rebound from 2012’s record low comes six years after the BBC reported that global warming would leave the Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013.

Instead, days before the annual autumn re-freeze is due to begin, an unbroken ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the Canadian islands to Russia’s northern shores.....

And now it s global COOLING Return of Arctic ice cap as it grows by 29 in a year Daily Mail Online

That changes annually, and now it's all gone. This is 2014, and it's already reached its minimum at the 6th lowest figure of record.

But land ice is far different from sea ice. Only land ice melt (Greenland and Glaciers) can change sea level - and you cannot deny they are melting, and threatening coastal cities around the world.

What a lame excuse. You have complete in and utter Blind Faith in manipulated computer models based on manipulated data sets...but disregard Real Ice.

 

[Impenitent]

If you are uncertain that the earth is warming, and you think that someone's messing with the temperature record, you only need look at the actual condition of the earth: the melting of land ice (glaciers) and the sea level rise, which are unexplainable in a cooling earth.

Ice? You mean things like the 29% INCREASE in Arctic ice last year?

A chilly Arctic summer has left 533,000 more square miles of ocean covered with ice than at the same time last year – an increase of 29 per cent.

The rebound from 2012’s record low comes six years after the BBC reported that global warming would leave the Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013.

Instead, days before the annual autumn re-freeze is due to begin, an unbroken ice sheet more than half the size of Europe already stretches from the Canadian islands to Russia’s northern shores.....

And now it s global COOLING Return of Arctic ice cap as it grows by 29 in a year Daily Mail Online

That changes annually, and now it's all gone. This is 2014, and it's already reached its minimum at the 6th lowest figure of record.

But land ice is far different from sea ice. Only land ice melt (Greenland and Glaciers) can change sea level - and you cannot deny they are melting, and threatening coastal cities around the world.

What a lame excuse. You have complete in and utter Blind Faith in manipulated computer models based on manipulated data sets...but disregard Real Ice.

It is you who doesn't understand the significant difference between sea ice and land ice, or that the "arctic ice cap recovery" was gone in just a few months.

There's nothing lame about incontrovertible facts - get yourself some!

 

[Billy_Bob]

"The network that requires no adjustment" ? ? ?

Every day, in every way, you never fail to amaze us with your
UNBELIEVABLE STUPIDITY ! ! !

This show how utterly stupid and partisan you are.. Why dont you read about it... Source

By carefully planning and maintaining these pristine stations and by using the best technology available, this large-scale experiment eliminates the following problems with the older weather measurement network:

• There are no observer or transcription errors to correct.
• There is no time of observation bias, nor need for correction of it.
• There is no broad scale missing data, requiring filling in data from potentially bad surrounding stations. (FILNET)
• There are no needs for bias adjustments for equipment types since all equipment is identical.
• There are no need for urbanization adjustments, since all stations are rural and well sited.
• There are no regular sensor errors due to air aspiration and triple redundant lab grade sensors. Any errors detected in one sensor are identified and managed by two others, ensuring quality data.
• Due to the near perfect geospatial distribution of stations in the USA, there isn’t a need for gridding to get a national average temperature.

The item continues with some very devastating information about how badly the current stations were mishandled and manipulated.

So, what has this NOAA experiment found? The bottom image (Image #3) tells that story - when compared to measurements from the old, inaccurate, non-pristine network, temperature "warming" in the U.S. is being overstated anywhere from +0.5°C on average, up to almost +4.0°C (+0.9°F to +7.2°F) in some locations during the summer months.

To clarify, this range of overstatement depends on the given new and old stations being compared. However, when the new network versus old network results are examined in total, for the recent summer heat wave in the U.S., the old stations were reporting bogus warming during July that amounted to some +2.1°F higher than the actual temperatures.

Your crap warming has all been adjustments and poor control... Now be good little warmist and GFY...

 

[Wyld Kard]

A fine illustration by the OP on how to lie with statistics.

Honest people use the best and simplest data. Liars toss away the simplest data and try to cherrypick some convoluted and cherypicked statistic instead.

So, the honest rational people will use the best and simplest data, the global surface temp average. Cult liars will cherrypick something stupid and meaningless, like "percentage of a subset stations in the USA that hit 90 degrees.". Pathetic and desperate, but it's all they have, since all the good data says they're full of shit.

Deniers are also a hysterical lot, as all their screaming here about "boiling" proves. Boedicca, hysterical, stupid and dishonest is no way to go through life.

Liars toss away the simplest data and try to cherrypick some convoluted and cherrypicked statistic instead.

Just like the corrupt assholes at IPCC do, dumbass!

 

[Wyld Kard]

Oh nooeessss!!1!!1!!!!!! We're all going to boil away due to Global Warming.



Not.

SCIENTISTS (from the government!), and we all know how much the Progs love to quote SCIENTISTS, have determined that the USA is having the Coolest Year on Record in 2014.

View attachment 33385


The percentage of US HCN stations to reach 90 degrees was the smallest on record this year, with four of the five coolest years occurring above 350 PPM CO2. The most widespread heat occurred in 1931, when more than 98% of stations were over 90 degrees.

NOAA s National Weather Service


HCN:

The Historical Climate Network (HCN) was identified in response to the need for the most accurate, unbiased, modern historical climate record available for detecting climate change in the US over the past 100 years or more, The HCN is a sub-network of Cooperative Observer Network (COOP) consisting of 1221 stations. The HCN stations are maintained by the NOAA’s NWS and the HCN data set is maintained by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center (NCDC). The HCN-M will sustain the Nation’s regional climate record through modernization of the HCN.

NOAA s National Weather Service

That's funny. Steven Goddard (your source) has found a way to show a declining trend from data he knows proves the opposite.

Removing Half Of All HCN Stations Has Essentially No Impact On The US Temperature Real Science

And yet you trust made up models by Michael Mann....go figure.

Careful what you say about Dr. Mann - he fights for truth, justice, and the American way.

"In January 2014 District of Columbia Superior Court Judge Weisberg found that Dr. Mann's lawsuit should not be dismissed pursuant to the District Of Columbia's Anti-SLAPP statute. Accusing a scientist of conducting his research fraudulently is a factual allegation that can be proven true or false, not mere hyperbolic opinionating. If it is false it is defamatory, and if it is made with actual malice it is actionable."

Careful what you say about Dr. Mann - he fights for truth,

Yeah, sure he does!

 

[Impenitent]

Oh nooeessss!!1!!1!!!!!! We're all going to boil away due to Global Warming.



Not.

SCIENTISTS (from the government!), and we all know how much the Progs love to quote SCIENTISTS, have determined that the USA is having the Coolest Year on Record in 2014.

View attachment 33385


The percentage of US HCN stations to reach 90 degrees was the smallest on record this year, with four of the five coolest years occurring above 350 PPM CO2. The most widespread heat occurred in 1931, when more than 98% of stations were over 90 degrees.

NOAA s National Weather Service


HCN:

The Historical Climate Network (HCN) was identified in response to the need for the most accurate, unbiased, modern historical climate record available for detecting climate change in the US over the past 100 years or more, The HCN is a sub-network of Cooperative Observer Network (COOP) consisting of 1221 stations. The HCN stations are maintained by the NOAA’s NWS and the HCN data set is maintained by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center (NCDC). The HCN-M will sustain the Nation’s regional climate record through modernization of the HCN.

NOAA s National Weather Service

That's funny. Steven Goddard (your source) has found a way to show a declining trend from data he knows proves the opposite.

Removing Half Of All HCN Stations Has Essentially No Impact On The US Temperature Real Science

And yet you trust made up models by Michael Mann....go figure.

Careful what you say about Dr. Mann - he fights for truth, justice, and the American way.

"In January 2014 District of Columbia Superior Court Judge Weisberg found that Dr. Mann's lawsuit should not be dismissed pursuant to the District Of Columbia's Anti-SLAPP statute. Accusing a scientist of conducting his research fraudulently is a factual allegation that can be proven true or false, not mere hyperbolic opinionating. If it is false it is defamatory, and if it is made with actual malice it is actionable."

Careful what you say about Dr. Mann - he fights for truth,

Yeah, sure he does!

If we are lucky, it will be AGW vs deniers. Can't wait!

 

[Billy_Bob]

Oh nooeessss!!1!!1!!!!!! We're all going to boil away due to Global Warming.



Not.

SCIENTISTS (from the government!), and we all know how much the Progs love to quote SCIENTISTS, have determined that the USA is having the Coolest Year on Record in 2014.

View attachment 33385


The percentage of US HCN stations to reach 90 degrees was the smallest on record this year, with four of the five coolest years occurring above 350 PPM CO2. The most widespread heat occurred in 1931, when more than 98% of stations were over 90 degrees.

NOAA s National Weather Service


HCN:

The Historical Climate Network (HCN) was identified in response to the need for the most accurate, unbiased, modern historical climate record available for detecting climate change in the US over the past 100 years or more, The HCN is a sub-network of Cooperative Observer Network (COOP) consisting of 1221 stations. The HCN stations are maintained by the NOAA’s NWS and the HCN data set is maintained by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center (NCDC). The HCN-M will sustain the Nation’s regional climate record through modernization of the HCN.

NOAA s National Weather Service

That's funny. Steven Goddard (your source) has found a way to show a declining trend from data he knows proves the opposite.

Removing Half Of All HCN Stations Has Essentially No Impact On The US Temperature Real Science

And yet you trust made up models by Michael Mann....go figure.

Careful what you say about Dr. Mann - he fights for truth, justice, and the American way.

"In January 2014 District of Columbia Superior Court Judge Weisberg found that Dr. Mann's lawsuit should not be dismissed pursuant to the District Of Columbia's Anti-SLAPP statute. Accusing a scientist of conducting his research fraudulently is a factual allegation that can be proven true or false, not mere hyperbolic opinionating. If it is false it is defamatory, and if it is made with actual malice it is actionable."

Careful what you say about Dr. Mann - he fights for truth,

Yeah, sure he does!

Let me see... Mark Styne had 102 amiscus briefs and Michale Mann had .......ZERO.. No one is willing to stand up for Mann because they know he is a liar. And yet Mann refuses to give up his work, methods, and data to prove that he is not a liar.... What kind of scientist hides work done on the public monies? A liar and a Fraud...!

 

[Billy_Bob]

Oh nooeessss!!1!!1!!!!!! We're all going to boil away due to Global Warming.



Not.

SCIENTISTS (from the government!), and we all know how much the Progs love to quote SCIENTISTS, have determined that the USA is having the Coolest Year on Record in 2014.

View attachment 33385


The percentage of US HCN stations to reach 90 degrees was the smallest on record this year, with four of the five coolest years occurring above 350 PPM CO2. The most widespread heat occurred in 1931, when more than 98% of stations were over 90 degrees.

NOAA s National Weather Service


HCN:

The Historical Climate Network (HCN) was identified in response to the need for the most accurate, unbiased, modern historical climate record available for detecting climate change in the US over the past 100 years or more, The HCN is a sub-network of Cooperative Observer Network (COOP) consisting of 1221 stations. The HCN stations are maintained by the NOAA’s NWS and the HCN data set is maintained by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center (NCDC). The HCN-M will sustain the Nation’s regional climate record through modernization of the HCN.

NOAA s National Weather Service

That's funny. Steven Goddard (your source) has found a way to show a declining trend from data he knows proves the opposite.

Removing Half Of All HCN Stations Has Essentially No Impact On The US Temperature Real Science

And yet you trust made up models by Michael Mann....go figure.

Careful what you say about Dr. Mann - he fights for truth, justice, and the American way.

"In January 2014 District of Columbia Superior Court Judge Weisberg found that Dr. Mann's lawsuit should not be dismissed pursuant to the District Of Columbia's Anti-SLAPP statute. Accusing a scientist of conducting his research fraudulently is a factual allegation that can be proven true or false, not mere hyperbolic opinionating. If it is false it is defamatory, and if it is made with actual malice it is actionable."

Careful what you say about Dr. Mann - he fights for truth,

Yeah, sure he does!

If we are lucky, it will be AGW vs deniers. Can't wait!

WHat 18 years 2 months of no warming passed Dr Ben Santers goal posts of 17 years, by a year and 2 months ago, to disprove AGW.... Are you digging up the goal posts again?

 

[Impenitent]

I didn't bring up Mann - but I don't mind talkin' about him.

 

[Impenitent]

Oh nooeessss!!1!!1!!!!!! We're all going to boil away due to Global Warming.



Not.

SCIENTISTS (from the government!), and we all know how much the Progs love to quote SCIENTISTS, have determined that the USA is having the Coolest Year on Record in 2014.

View attachment 33385


The percentage of US HCN stations to reach 90 degrees was the smallest on record this year, with four of the five coolest years occurring above 350 PPM CO2. The most widespread heat occurred in 1931, when more than 98% of stations were over 90 degrees.

NOAA s National Weather Service


HCN:

The Historical Climate Network (HCN) was identified in response to the need for the most accurate, unbiased, modern historical climate record available for detecting climate change in the US over the past 100 years or more, The HCN is a sub-network of Cooperative Observer Network (COOP) consisting of 1221 stations. The HCN stations are maintained by the NOAA’s NWS and the HCN data set is maintained by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center (NCDC). The HCN-M will sustain the Nation’s regional climate record through modernization of the HCN.

NOAA s National Weather Service

That's funny. Steven Goddard (your source) has found a way to show a declining trend from data he knows proves the opposite.

Removing Half Of All HCN Stations Has Essentially No Impact On The US Temperature Real Science

And yet you trust made up models by Michael Mann....go figure.

Careful what you say about Dr. Mann - he fights for truth, justice, and the American way.

"In January 2014 District of Columbia Superior Court Judge Weisberg found that Dr. Mann's lawsuit should not be dismissed pursuant to the District Of Columbia's Anti-SLAPP statute. Accusing a scientist of conducting his research fraudulently is a factual allegation that can be proven true or false, not mere hyperbolic opinionating. If it is false it is defamatory, and if it is made with actual malice it is actionable."

Careful what you say about Dr. Mann - he fights for truth,

Yeah, sure he does!

Let me see... Mark Styne had 102 amiscus briefs and Michale Mann had .......ZERO.. No one is willing to stand up for Mann because they know he is a liar. And yet Mann refuses to give up his work, methods, and data to prove that he is not a liar.... What kind of scientist hides work done on the public monies? A liar and a Fraud...!

Mann's suit means he's willing to show all work in court. Styn'e's doing the legal stalling. He's the one not wanting to show up in court!

And I remember when you said this case would be dismissed...

 

[Billy_Bob]

That's funny. Steven Goddard (your source) has found a way to show a declining trend from data he knows proves the opposite.

Removing Half Of All HCN Stations Has Essentially No Impact On The US Temperature Real Science

And yet you trust made up models by Michael Mann....go figure.

Careful what you say about Dr. Mann - he fights for truth, justice, and the American way.

"In January 2014 District of Columbia Superior Court Judge Weisberg found that Dr. Mann's lawsuit should not be dismissed pursuant to the District Of Columbia's Anti-SLAPP statute. Accusing a scientist of conducting his research fraudulently is a factual allegation that can be proven true or false, not mere hyperbolic opinionating. If it is false it is defamatory, and if it is made with actual malice it is actionable."

Careful what you say about Dr. Mann - he fights for truth,

Yeah, sure he does!

Let me see... Mark Styne had 102 amiscus briefs and Michale Mann had .......ZERO.. No one is willing to stand up for Mann because they know he is a liar. And yet Mann refuses to give up his work, methods, and data to prove that he is not a liar.... What kind of scientist hides work done on the public monies? A liar and a Fraud...!

Mann's suit means he's willing to show all work in court. Styn'e's doing the legal stalling. He's the one not wanting to show up in court!

And I remember when you said this case would be dismissed...

BULL SHIT!

this is so funny... Mann is using stalling techniques while Styne is requesting a fast trial. Your a looser and dishonest. How about the other 6 law suits Mann is in that he is also refusing to allow discovery in? Are those just imagination?

 

[Impenitent]

N

And yet you trust made up models by Michael Mann....go figure.

Careful what you say about Dr. Mann - he fights for truth, justice, and the American way.

"In January 2014 District of Columbia Superior Court Judge Weisberg found that Dr. Mann's lawsuit should not be dismissed pursuant to the District Of Columbia's Anti-SLAPP statute. Accusing a scientist of conducting his research fraudulently is a factual allegation that can be proven true or false, not mere hyperbolic opinionating. If it is false it is defamatory, and if it is made with actual malice it is actionable."

Careful what you say about Dr. Mann - he fights for truth,

Yeah, sure he does!

Let me see... Mark Styne had 102 amiscus briefs and Michale Mann had .......ZERO.. No one is willing to stand up for Mann because they know he is a liar. And yet Mann refuses to give up his work, methods, and data to prove that he is not a liar.... What kind of scientist hides work done on the public monies? A liar and a Fraud...!

Mann's suit means he's willing to show all work in court. Styn'e's doing the legal stalling. He's the one not wanting to show up in court!

And I remember when you said this case would be dismissed...

BULL SHIT!

this is so funny... Mann is using stalling techniques while Styne is requesting a fast trial. Your a looser and dishonest. How about the other 6 law suits Mann is in that he is also refusing to allow discovery in? Are those just imagination?

Nope, Styne's been filing for dismissal, and keeps losing thee suits, Mann had asked the court to stop the delays, and move on to trial.

And it will.

Read about it:

Michael Mann DC Appeals Court brief lays out defamation case and seeks to move toward trial Climate Science Watch

 

[Billy_Bob]

N

Careful what you say about Dr. Mann - he fights for truth, justice, and the American way.

"In January 2014 District of Columbia Superior Court Judge Weisberg found that Dr. Mann's lawsuit should not be dismissed pursuant to the District Of Columbia's Anti-SLAPP statute. Accusing a scientist of conducting his research fraudulently is a factual allegation that can be proven true or false, not mere hyperbolic opinionating. If it is false it is defamatory, and if it is made with actual malice it is actionable."

Careful what you say about Dr. Mann - he fights for truth,

Yeah, sure he does!

Let me see... Mark Styne had 102 amiscus briefs and Michale Mann had .......ZERO.. No one is willing to stand up for Mann because they know he is a liar. And yet Mann refuses to give up his work, methods, and data to prove that he is not a liar.... What kind of scientist hides work done on the public monies? A liar and a Fraud...!

Mann's suit means he's willing to show all work in court. Styn'e's doing the legal stalling. He's the one not wanting to show up in court!

And I remember when you said this case would be dismissed...

BULL SHIT!

this is so funny... Mann is using stalling techniques while Styne is requesting a fast trial. Your a looser and dishonest. How about the other 6 law suits Mann is in that he is also refusing to allow discovery in? Are those just imagination?

Nope, Styne's been filing for dismissal, and keeps losing thee suits, Mann had asked the court to stop the delays, and move on to trial.

And it will.

Read about it:

Michael Mann DC Appeals Court brief lays out defamation case and seeks to move toward trial Climate Science Watch

You really should go to the courts site and read..