18 Suicides & 52 Rapes a Day in the Military

[The Infidel]

The thread title is typical of Eots. Nothing new here.

Then he runs and hides

 

[ScienceRocks]

Think of this, but every hour in you have the CONGO. 365 days a year.

 

[ScienceRocks]

The pregnancy rate on US Navy warships is staggering. Duh...can the ignorant left make a connection between sexual abuse allegations and women sailors? WTF were we thinking when we put women to work alongside men in a combat environment?

It surely wasn't logical or well thought out. That's for damn sure.

 

[High_Gravity]

The pregnancy rate on US Navy warships is staggering. Duh...can the ignorant left make a connection between sexual abuse allegations and women sailors? WTF were we thinking when we put women to work alongside men in a combat environment?

It's a question to make you scratch your head! Who wanted to let women and wusses into the military? In a year or so, we'll be asking that question of gays.

So you think women shouldn't be in the Military completely? I don't agree with that.

 

[SFC Ollie]

No doubt the original; OP was BS.........

The true numbers, those that include all US Veterans are also suspect. How many Veterans are out there??????

 

[MHunterB]

I read somewhere recently that something close to 1 in 10 Americans is a veteran.... now that would obviously include all the folks who fought in Korea and WW2 as well as more recent actions. I doubt we have any WW1 vets left.

What nobody seems to have done is studied suicide rates among vets of different successive wars - and rates of PTSD, which I suspect is a major factor.

Just having the numbers for recent/'current' vets would be helpful as a start - but that needs to be tracked through time.

In any case, there needs to be a comparison between the results for vets and for the general population.

 

[uscitizen]

This problem will go away as soon as a Republican is elected president.

 

[waltky]

Army still havin' a problem with suicides...

Army sees highest suicide rate in July
August 16th, 2012 - Soldiers killed themselves at a higher monthly rate in July than any other since detailed statistics have been kept on the issue, the U.S. Army said Thursday.

A total of 38 confirmed or suspected suicides were counted by the Army last month in a tally that took into account both active and non-active duty soldiers who serve in the Army National Guard or Reserve. Three of those active duty soldiers were deployed at the time of their death. Prior to the announcement, the highest monthly level suicide rate for soldiers was 33 in the months of June 2010 and July 2011 according to statistics released by the Army. "Suicide is the toughest enemy I have faced in my 37 years in the Army. And it's an enemy that's killing not just Soldiers, but tens of thousands of Americans every year," Gen. Lloyd J. Austin III, Vice Chief of Staff of the Army said in a written statement. "That said, I do believe suicide is preventable. To combat it effectively will require sophisticated solutions aimed at helping individuals to build resiliency and strengthen their life coping skills."

To date, the Army has confirmed 120 suicides for both active and non-active duty soldiers in 2012 with 67 other deaths suspected as suicides, but still under investigation. Twenty-five of those were attributed to soldiers who did not have any previous deployments. The Army reported 242 suicides in 2009, 305 in 2010 and 283 in 2011. Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta told a Congressional committee last month that the U.S. military was facing an "epidemic" of suicides, and was in need of improvements in mental health services for active duty and returning troops.

In his statement, Austin noted that with Suicide Prevention Month in September, the Army must also continue to address the stigma associated with mental health issues in the service. "Ultimately, we want the mindset across our Force and society at large to be that behavioral health is a routine part of what we do and who we are as we strive to maintain our own physical and mental wellness," he said.

The White House lifted a ban last year on the sending of condolence letters from the president to the families of service members who commit suicide. It reversed a policy in place by previous administrations that had come under intense criticism as the country entered into its 10th year of war. "This issue is emotional, painful, and complicated," President Barack Obama said last July when the policy was changed. "But these Americans served our nation bravely. ... We need to do everything in our power to honor their service, and to help them stay strong for themselves, for their families and for our nation."

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[Moonglow]

18 Suicides & 52 Rapes a Day in the Military - YouTube

Well no wonder they back Ron Pul.

 

[Katzndogz]

Suicides are on the rise all over, not just in the military. If we keep this rate up, we will get to be like Sweden, Norway and other socialist countries that have high suicide rates.

 

[waltky]

Uncle Ferd says dey need to cut down on the lengths an' number of deployments...

Marine Commandant: 2012 Will Be a ‘Tough Year’ For Military Suicides
August 29, 2012 - Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James Amos, speaking at the National Press Club (NPC) in Washington, D.C., said that despite efforts to “abate” the problem, he expects 2012 will be a “tough year” for military suicides in “all the services.”

Amos cited a decline in the suicide rate for combat veterans of the Marine Corps before making those comments. “What are you doing to address the alarming suicide rate among our combat veterans?” the event’s moderator asked the general, reading off pre-written questions from the NPC luncheon’s audience open to club members, reporters, and the general public. “Even with the attention of the leadership, I think all the services this year are feeling it, and I guess what I would tell everybody here is there is through no shortage of great effort and leadership on the part of all the services to try to abate this, but this year I think is going to be a tough year for all the services,” said the top Marine corps officer.

“Three years ago we hit the top of probably the most we’ve ever had since we started tracking – that’s 52. We put a full court press on the leadership, and interestingly enough, it was the young corporals and sergeants that came forward and said, ‘Let us do this,’” he added. “So we spent no shortage of effort and put together interactive videos with real Marines using the language that real Marines use, which surprised everybody we would actually put something in print like that, and the Marines talk to one another in this, and it was led by non-commissioned officers. The next year the suicide rate dropped to I think 39 from 52. Last year, it dropped to 32,” Amos said.

The Associated Press first reported on Aug. 16 that the eight suicides that the Marine Corps had in July was “its highest monthly total of 2012 and pushed its total for the year so far to 32 — equal to the Marines' total for all of 2011.” “This year we’ve gone back, and now we have the same interactive video. I mean that’s what the youngsters of today, they’re electronic, they’re learned by that as long as you don’t try to throw a bunch of garbage at them, and we got it for young officers and really [for] what I call our baby Marines – you know our brand new ones,” also said the commandant. He went on to say that even with the video and the attention of the leadership, all the services are feeling the impact of the suicide rate this year.

According to the report by the Associated Press, the Army reported that “26 active-duty soldiers killed themselves in July, compared with 12 in June,” adding that “the July total was the highest for any month since the Army began reporting suicides by month in 2009.” The 116 suicides among active duty soldiers that the Army recorded between January and July are on track to outpace the 167 that took place in 2011, the report added. There were no yearly totals provided for the Navy and the Air Force in the Aug. 16 report. It has been widely reported that the military is looking into antidepressant nasal sprays to bring down the suicide rate.

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[MikeK]

The suicide statistics of both active and former members of the contemporary military are, in my thinking, more than any other factor a reflection of the wholly corrupt nature of what our troops are and have been consigned to -- which is not what a conscionable soldier would be proud of or feel justified in doing.

While the average person believes suicide to be the result of desolation, behaviorists believe most suicides to be the ultimate expression of rage turned inward. But whether the motivation is rage or desolation it is obvious there is something seriously wrong with what government has done and is doing with our troops. And I believe the Bush Administration is responsible for conceiving and initiating it.

I'm sure others have different ideas, which I'll be interested in reading.

 

[tjvh]

The suicide statistics of both active and former members of the contemporary military are, in my thinking, more than any other factor a reflection of the wholly corrupt nature of what our troops are and have been consigned to -- which is not what a conscionable soldier would be proud of or feel justified in doing.

While the average person believes suicide to be the result of desolation, behaviorists believe most suicides to be the ultimate expression of rage turned inward. But whether the motivation is rage or desolation it is obvious there is something seriously wrong with what government has done and is doing with our troops. And I believe the Bush Administration is responsible for conceiving and initiating it.

I'm sure others have different ideas, which I'll be interested in reading.

Now Bush is causing suicides too... You loons are out of your friggin' minds.

 

[Politico]

These guys are lucky they weren't fighting in WWII.

 

[MikeK]

The suicide statistics of both active and former members of the contemporary military are, in my thinking, more than any other factor a reflection of the wholly corrupt nature of what our troops are and have been consigned to -- which is not what a conscionable soldier would be proud of or feel justified in doing.

While the average person believes suicide to be the result of desolation, behaviorists believe most suicides to be the ultimate expression of rage turned inward. But whether the motivation is rage or desolation it is obvious there is something seriously wrong with what government has done and is doing with our troops. And I believe the Bush Administration is responsible for conceiving and initiating it.

I'm sure others have different ideas, which I'll be interested in reading.

Now Bush is causing suicides too... You loons are out of your friggin' minds.

Give some thought to the perverse circumstances our troops have been exposed to during the past ten years and apply some simple reasoning. If you disagree with my conclusion an explanation of why along with some account of your own ideas would be more constructive than a stupidly adolescent ad hominem comment.

 

[9thIDdoc]

Ours not to reason why
Ours but to do and die

 

[MikeK]

Ours not to reason why
Ours but to do and die

This, in the simplest terms, is a goddam shame!

 

[tjvh]

The suicide statistics of both active and former members of the contemporary military are, in my thinking, more than any other factor a reflection of the wholly corrupt nature of what our troops are and have been consigned to -- which is not what a conscionable soldier would be proud of or feel justified in doing.

While the average person believes suicide to be the result of desolation, behaviorists believe most suicides to be the ultimate expression of rage turned inward. But whether the motivation is rage or desolation it is obvious there is something seriously wrong with what government has done and is doing with our troops. And I believe the Bush Administration is responsible for conceiving and initiating it.

I'm sure others have different ideas, which I'll be interested in reading.

Now Bush is causing suicides too... You loons are out of your friggin' minds.

Give some thought to the perverse circumstances our troops have been exposed to during the past ten years and apply some simple reasoning. If you disagree with my conclusion an explanation of why along with some account of your own ideas would be more constructive than a stupidly adolescent ad hominem comment.

If suicide is up in the Military it certainly isn't Bush's fault... You are a LOON.

 

[MikeK]

Amos cited a decline in the suicide rate for combat veterans of the Marine Corps before making those comments. “What are you doing to address the alarming suicide rate among our combat veterans?” the event’s moderator asked the general, reading off pre-written questions from the NPC luncheon’s audience open to club members, reporters, and the general public. “Even with the attention of the leadership, I think all the services this year are feeling it, and I guess what I would tell everybody here is there is through no shortage of great effort and leadership on the part of all the services to try to abate this, but this year I think is going to be a tough year for all the services,” said the top Marine corps officer.

“Three years ago we hit the top of probably the most we’ve ever had since we started tracking – that’s 52. We put a full court press on the leadership, and interestingly enough, it was the young corporals and sergeants that came forward and said, ‘Let us do this,’” he added. “So we spent no shortage of effort and put together interactive videos with real Marines using the language that real Marines use, which surprised everybody we would actually put something in print like that, and the Marines talk to one another in this, and it was led by non-commissioned officers. The next year the suicide rate dropped to I think 39 from 52. Last year, it dropped to 32,” Amos said.

The Associated Press first reported on Aug. 16 that the eight suicides that the Marine Corps had in July was “its highest monthly total of 2012 and pushed its total for the year so far to 32 — equal to the Marines' total for all of 2011.” “This year we’ve gone back, and now we have the same interactive video. I mean that’s what the youngsters of today, they’re electronic, they’re learned by that as long as you don’t try to throw a bunch of garbage at them, and we got it for young officers and really [for] what I call our baby Marines – you know our brand new ones,” also said the commandant. He went on to say that even with the video and the attention of the leadership, all the services are feeling the impact of the suicide rate this year.

According to the report by the Associated Press, the Army reported that “26 active-duty soldiers killed themselves in July, compared with 12 in June,” adding that “the July total was the highest for any month since the Army began reporting suicides by month in 2009.” The 116 suicides among active duty soldiers that the Army recorded between January and July are on track to outpace the 167 that took place in 2011, the report added. There were no yearly totals provided for the Navy and the Air Force in the Aug. 16 report. It has been widely reported that the military is looking into antidepressant nasal sprays to bring down the suicide rate.

"the military is looking into antidepressant nasal sprays to bring down the suicide rate."

First Vietnam. Now this.

Still there are enlistments. And as long as the military is all volunteer and they keep paying bonuses I suppose they will keep coming. The only way to correct what is happening to our military (and the politicians who misuse it) is to reinstate the draft.

Nasal sprays aren't going to do it.

 

[tjvh]

Amos cited a decline in the suicide rate for combat veterans of the Marine Corps before making those comments. “What are you doing to address the alarming suicide rate among our combat veterans?” the event’s moderator asked the general, reading off pre-written questions from the NPC luncheon’s audience open to club members, reporters, and the general public. “Even with the attention of the leadership, I think all the services this year are feeling it, and I guess what I would tell everybody here is there is through no shortage of great effort and leadership on the part of all the services to try to abate this, but this year I think is going to be a tough year for all the services,” said the top Marine corps officer.

“Three years ago we hit the top of probably the most we’ve ever had since we started tracking – that’s 52. We put a full court press on the leadership, and interestingly enough, it was the young corporals and sergeants that came forward and said, ‘Let us do this,’” he added. “So we spent no shortage of effort and put together interactive videos with real Marines using the language that real Marines use, which surprised everybody we would actually put something in print like that, and the Marines talk to one another in this, and it was led by non-commissioned officers. The next year the suicide rate dropped to I think 39 from 52. Last year, it dropped to 32,” Amos said.

The Associated Press first reported on Aug. 16 that the eight suicides that the Marine Corps had in July was “its highest monthly total of 2012 and pushed its total for the year so far to 32 — equal to the Marines' total for all of 2011.” “This year we’ve gone back, and now we have the same interactive video. I mean that’s what the youngsters of today, they’re electronic, they’re learned by that as long as you don’t try to throw a bunch of garbage at them, and we got it for young officers and really [for] what I call our baby Marines – you know our brand new ones,” also said the commandant. He went on to say that even with the video and the attention of the leadership, all the services are feeling the impact of the suicide rate this year.

According to the report by the Associated Press, the Army reported that “26 active-duty soldiers killed themselves in July, compared with 12 in June,” adding that “the July total was the highest for any month since the Army began reporting suicides by month in 2009.” The 116 suicides among active duty soldiers that the Army recorded between January and July are on track to outpace the 167 that took place in 2011, the report added. There were no yearly totals provided for the Navy and the Air Force in the Aug. 16 report. It has been widely reported that the military is looking into antidepressant nasal sprays to bring down the suicide rate.

"the military is looking into antidepressant nasal sprays to bring down the suicide rate."

First Vietnam. Now this.

Still there are enlistments. And as long as the military is all volunteer and they keep paying bonuses I suppose they will keep coming. The only way to correct what is happening to our military (and the politicians who misuse it) is to reinstate the draft.

Nasal sprays aren't going to do it.

Reinstate the Draft? I thought the Democrats vision was to cut the Military... Now we want to add people to its ranks who don't want to be there in the first place? That, and nasal spray... Brilliant!