100 residents to be selected for basic income pilot program in Cal city

[RoshawnMarkwees]

And those not selected will cry Discrimination! and the program will be granted to everyone and CA will go broke and the fed will bail them out and marxists will prevail.
Fuck the democrat party.
Make America American again.

 

[Asclepias]

And those not selected will cry Discrimination! and the program will be granted to everyone and CA will go broke and the fed will bail them out and marxists will prevail.
Fuck the democrat party.
Make America American again.

You moron. You cant cry discrimination over a study that doesnt have to include you.

 

[danielpalos]

This is going to be interesting. This is just a trial to see what happens. This city is about 30 minutes from me and I applaud them trying out various things to reduce poverty and the stress it brings.

"A team of independent researchers will pick 100 people to receive the money. The purpose is to study how an extra $500 a month impacts people’s health and stress level. Researchers are also looking to see if people feel financially secure."

If you want to reduce poverty, encourage teenagers to stop having babies without husbands and fathers, stay in highschool and get a diploma, don't get arrested, and get a job, any job...that is how you actually stop poverty.....then you cut taxes so businesses can hire those people....and you make sure the police can keep people safe.....you tell the democrats to stop letting violent criminals out of jail....

Typical conservative tripe and failed playbook. When will you clowns realize you cant legislate human behavior? Thats why we have laws because you can tell people not to break them but human nature always comes into play.

The tax payer shouldn't have to fund that "human behavior"

decreasing commuter traffic?

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

This is going to be interesting. This is just a trial to see what happens. This city is about 30 minutes from me and I applaud them trying out various things to reduce poverty and the stress it brings.

"A team of independent researchers will pick 100 people to receive the money. The purpose is to study how an extra $500 a month impacts people’s health and stress level. Researchers are also looking to see if people feel financially secure."

Let me save you some time: The people receiving free monthly money will have their stress levels reduced.
The people providing the money out of their pockets for others will see their stress levels rise.

You don't need to be a social scientist to figure that out. It's socialism....duh!

 

[Asclepias]

This is going to be interesting. This is just a trial to see what happens. This city is about 30 minutes from me and I applaud them trying out various things to reduce poverty and the stress it brings.

"A team of independent researchers will pick 100 people to receive the money. The purpose is to study how an extra $500 a month impacts people’s health and stress level. Researchers are also looking to see if people feel financially secure."

Let me save you some time: The people receiving free monthly money will have their stress levels reduced.
The people providing the money out of their pockets for others will see their stress levels rise.

You don't need to be a social scientist to figure that out. It's socialism....duh!

That doesnt make sense. All of the 100 pay taxes and have jobs. Its also privately funded.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

That doesnt make sense. All of the 100 pay taxes and have jobs.

Show me where that is stipulated in the OP source. And anyway someone who is struggling along is going to have his tax money go to someone else who may or may not be better off to start with.
Is that equitable or helpful? Not at all.

 

[Asclepias]

That doesnt make sense. All of the 100 pay taxes and have jobs.

Show me where that is stipulated in the OP source. And anyway someone who is struggling along is going to have his tax money go to someone else who may or may not be better off to start with.
Is that equitable or helpful? Not at all.

I'm not here to do your research. Just telling you the facts. Like I said the study is privately funded so no tax payers are involved anyway.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

And those not selected will cry Discrimination! and the program will be granted to everyone and CA will go broke and the fed will bail them out and marxists will prevail.
Fuck the democrat party.
Make America American again.

You moron. You cant cry discrimination over a study that doesnt have to include you.

That is the stupidest response ever. “Doesn’t have to include?”
Think about that.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

I'm not here to do your research. Just telling you the facts. Like I said the study is privately funded so no tax payers are involved anyway.

No, you certainly aren't here to do any research at all and your "facts" cannot be supported.
The study may be privately funded but there is nothing to show that the program money used to dole out in a hare brained scheme is coming from a money tree or leprechauns or some anonymous billionaire.
And what happens when the pilot program ends and everyone connected with the city of Stockton (a real shithole, by the way, as you know if you live near there) says yes, studies show people sure do like free money from someone else?

I guess no one has thought this through.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I guess no one has thought this through.

It’s california so that’s not required.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

t’s california so that’s not required.

Amen, brother! California Is Broke – 19 Reasons Why It May Be Time For Everyone To Leave The State Of California For Good
California is like a top of the line Mercedes that's been run into a junk heap.
I was there for the golden age(60's through mid 80's) and then the abrupt decline. And what's amazing is none of this seems to make any impression on the morons in Sacramento that run the state.

They have been given every advantage and turned into a liability. They are truly in a fool's paradise.

 

[Tax Man]

t’s california so that’s not required.

Amen, brother! California Is Broke – 19 Reasons Why It May Be Time For Everyone To Leave The State Of California For Good
California is like a top of the line Mercedes that's been run into a junk heap.
I was there for the golden age(60's through mid 80's) and then the abrupt decline. And what's amazing is none of this seems to make any impression on the morons in Sacramento that run the state.

They have been given every advantage and turned into a liability. They are truly in a fool's paradise.

The republicans are the ones who put us in the debt. Ronnie ray Goon, The jokemagian, pete wilson, Arnie. Brown is why we finally are making headway in paying down the folly of the rethuglians.

 

[Tax Man]

A special letter mail carriers are delivering to hundreds of homes in Stockton will hopefully bring a little financial relief in the New Year.
100 Residents To Be Selected For Basic Income Pilot Program in Cal City ⋆ The Savage Nation




When you are an uninformed moron you will think this is amazing good lmfao!!!! Here is a news flash the under , uninformed loons don't get sooner or later your RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLE's money you idiots.

You should note that when you run out of other peoples money, someone is going to come for you and you (government officials) are going to have a real problems, unless you have disarmed them of all guns. There will be a over throw of the State.

The only ones who run out of money are republicans.

 

[Tax Man]

I'm not here to do your research. Just telling you the facts. Like I said the study is privately funded so no tax payers are involved anyway.

No, you certainly aren't here to do any research at all and your "facts" cannot be supported.
The study may be privately funded but there is nothing to show that the program money used to dole out in a hare brained scheme is coming from a money tree or leprechauns or some anonymous billionaire.
And what happens when the pilot program ends and everyone connected with the city of Stockton (a real shithole, by the way, as you know if you live near there) says yes, studies show people sure do like free money from someone else?

I guess no one has thought this through.

Stockton is not a shithole! It is far better than any city in georgia or alabama. I do live here and find your ignorance laughable.

 

[Tax Man]

I guess no one has thought this through.

It’s california so that’s not required.

Actually thought is a very California idea. Seems to be a foreign agent in other states.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Stockton is not a shithole! It is far better than any city in georgia or alabama. I do live here and find your ignorance laughable.

So you have to pretend Stockton is not a crime ridden poverty stricken shit hole. I do not.

Stockton is the largest city in American history to go bankrupt. It's the seventh highest city in terms of auto theft.
Rated the third least literate city in the USA by ABC news.
City-Data. com rates Stockton higher in crime in all categories than 95.9% of all other US cities. http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Stockton-California.html
For every 315 citizens in Stockton there is a registered sex offender living there too. That's stunning!

I find your attempt to whitewash Stockton laughable, speaking of ignorance.
I remember it being a shit hole but going back and looking at the evidence I think I was too rough on shit holes comparing Stockton to them.

 

[georgephillip]

Silicon Valley seems to be the source of funds for this experiment:

This California town will give a $500 monthly stipend to residents

"The Stockton project has its roots in Silicon Valley, too. Its financial backers include Facebook cofounder Chris Hughes' organization, the Economic Security Project — a fund to support research and cultural engagement around Universal Basic Income. It contributed $1 million to the Stockton initiative.

"Related: Mark Zuckerberg supports universal basic income. What is it?

"In an interview with CNNMoney earlier this year, Hughes said being part of the country's top 1% helped him realize the great inequities in the economy.

"'It is such a fundamental idea behind America that if you work hard, you can get ahead — and you certainly don't live in poverty.'

"'But that isn't true today, and it hasn't been true in the country for decades,' Hughes said. "I believe that unless we make significant changes today, the income inequality in our country will continue to grow and call into question the very nature of our social contract.'"

The Social Contract According to John Locke

 

[Tax Man]

Stockton is not a shithole! It is far better than any city in georgia or alabama. I do live here and find your ignorance laughable.

So you have to pretend Stockton is not a crime ridden poverty stricken shit hole. I do not.

Stockton is the largest city in American history to go bankrupt. It's the seventh highest city in terms of auto theft.
Rated the third least literate city in the USA by ABC news.
City-Data. com rates Stockton higher in crime in all categories than 95.9% of all other US cities. http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Stockton-California.html
For every 315 citizens in Stockton there is a registered sex offender living there too. That's stunning!

I find your attempt to whitewash Stockton laughable, speaking of ignorance.
I remember it being a shit hole but going back and looking at the evidence I think I was too rough on shit holes comparing Stockton to them.

I do not pretend anything. I know people who moved there and are very happy. I also know the history of Stockton and how it went from a bustling import center to a barren wasteland. I have also worked there installing new foundations and concrete patios and walkways. You seem to want to find the worst in anything that doesn't fit your mold of republican and then chastise the shit out of it.

 

[hadit]

This is going to be interesting. This is just a trial to see what happens. This city is about 30 minutes from me and I applaud them trying out various things to reduce poverty and the stress it brings.

"A team of independent researchers will pick 100 people to receive the money. The purpose is to study how an extra $500 a month impacts people’s health and stress level. Researchers are also looking to see if people feel financially secure."

If you want to reduce poverty, encourage teenagers to stop having babies without husbands and fathers, stay in highschool and get a diploma, don't get arrested, and get a job, any job...that is how you actually stop poverty.....then you cut taxes so businesses can hire those people....and you make sure the police can keep people safe.....you tell the democrats to stop letting violent criminals out of jail....

Compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment does that, not means testing for welfare.

What's the rate?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

If you want to reduce poverty, encourage teenagers to stop having babies without husbands and fathers, stay in highschool and get a diploma, don't get arrested, and get a job, any job...that is how you actually stop poverty.....then you cut taxes so businesses can hire those people....and you make sure the police can keep people safe.....you tell the democrats to stop letting violent criminals out of jail....

This is old news, actually. I think I first read about this experiment at least a year ago. By now, we ought to be hearing about results.

This was taking place in Stockton, a city which can't even afford to support an adequate police force, and has, as a result, seen a massive increase in violent crime. My wife worries because I drive through Stockton on my way between home in Sacramento, and my current job project in Tracy.