Zionism and Nazism: is there a difference that makes a difference?

[Marc39]

If there's one point that can't be made often enough it is the level of Zionist opposition that occurs daily in Israel. If the US electorate ever becomes as aware of IDF war crimes in the Occupied Territories as the Jews are, Republicans AND Democrats will all be FLUSHED from power.

You're severely uneducated. There is no Israeli occupation as international law permits Jews to live throughout sovereign Jewish land.

Now, you know.

Area C and Gaza are not sovereign Jewish land.

All of Palestine, from the Jordan River to the Med. Sea constitutes sovereign Israeli land, under international law.

Now, you know.

 

[Marc39]

Area C and Gaza are not sovereign Jewish land.

Gaza is not a sovereign Arab state.

Now, you know.

 

[georgephillip]

Zionism is the pursuit of a jewish state and nazism which is aligned with the arabs was the desire to kill jews.

Fortunately, zionism is stronger. Good vs evil.

Are you sure?

"Zionist factions competed for the honor of allying to Hitler.

"By 1940-41, the 'Stern Gang,' among them Yitzhak Shamir, later Prime Minister of Israel, presented the Nazis with the 'Fundamental Features of the Proposal of the National Military Organization in Palestine (Irgun Zvai Leumi) Concerning the Solution of the Jewish Question in Europe and the Participation of the NMO in the War on the Side of Germany.'"

If Zionists were willing to ally with Hitler against the British (who were occupying Palestine at the time), would that change your mind about good and evil?

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[Marc39]

Zionism is the pursuit of a jewish state and nazism which is aligned with the arabs was the desire to kill jews.

Fortunately, zionism is stronger. Good vs evil.

Are you sure?

"Zionist factions competed for the honor of allying to Hitler.

Comparing Zionism to Nazism constitutes anti-Semitism, based on US and EU guidelines.

Take your mental illness elsewhere. You have zero reputation here.

US Department of State
Contemporary Global Anti-Semitism:A Report Provided to the United States Congress

Anti-Semitism is one of the oldest forms of malicious intolerance and violates the precepts of human dignity and equality that are fundamental to a free and peaceful society.
History has shown that wherever anti-Semitism has gone unchecked, the persecution of others has been present or not far behind.

Defeating anti-Semitism must be a cause of great importance not only for Jews, but for all people who value humanity and justice and want to live in a more tolerant, peaceful world. Together, we must continue our efforts to monitor and combat anti-Semitism in all of its forms wherever and whenever it occurs.

Forms of Anti-Semitism

Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination.…
Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
Contemporary Global Anti-Semitism:A Report Provided to the United States Congress

EUMC...
Examples of the ways in which antiSemitism manifests itself with regard to the state of Israel, drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis

Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, eg, by claiming that the existence of a state of Israel is a racist endeavor.

FRA - European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights

 

[Marc39]

Zionism is the pursuit of a jewish state and nazism which is aligned with the arabs was the desire to kill jews.

Fortunately, zionism is stronger. Good vs evil.

Are you sure?

"Zionist factions competed for the honor of allying to Hitler.

Martin Luther King, Jr was an avowed Zionist...

When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You are talking anti-Semitism.

I see Israel as one of the great outposts of democracy in the world, and a marvelous example of what can be done, how desert land can be transformed into an oasis of brotherhood and democracy. Peace for Israel means security and that security must be a reality.

I solemnly pledge to do my utmost to uphold the fair name of the Jews -- because bigotry in any form is an affront to us all.

"I have a dream" for peace in the Middle East / King's special bond with Israel

 

[Marc39]

How many Jews and their families are currently living in Gaza?

"Princeton"

Gaza is not a sovereign Arab state, high school dropout. Gaza remains unallocated sovereign Israeli land under the terms of the binding Palestine Mandate.

Your lesson for the day.

 

[georgephillip]

Link?

"Princeton"

 

[Marc39]

Link?

"Princeton"

I've instructed you on the matter several times, stoner.

After you sober up, try to use the search engine.

 

[u2scram]

""Moron, tens of millions of Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Zoroastrians and every other infidel have been slaughtered by the Muhammadan over 1400 years""

counted them all did you?

""there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad.""

the muslims would have a lot of catching up to do overtake the xtians!

 

[Marc39]

""Moron, tens of millions of Jews, Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Zoroastrians and every other infidel have been slaughtered by the Muhammadan over 1400 years""

counted them all did you?

""there have been few religions in the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammad.""

the muslims would have a lot of catching up to do overtake the xtians!

When it comes to mass murder, the Muhammadan is sui generis.

Their pagan moon god allah even ordains genocide...

Quran 17:16...

When We decide to destroy a population, We (first) send a definite order to those among them who are given the good things of this life and yet transgress; so that the word is proved true against them: then (it is) We destroy them utterly.

 

[u2scram]

""When it comes to mass murder, the Muhammadan is sui generis.""

reality check. the usa killed about 3,000,000 in the vietnam war alone. more than any other nation since the end of ww2.

add to that iraq, an illegal war, deaths estimated @ 100,000. it will be a long time before any other nation in the modern world reaches those totals.

I hope!!!

 

[Marc39]

""When it comes to mass murder, the Muhammadan is sui generis.""

reality check. the usa killed about 3,000,000 in the vietnam war alone. more than any other nation since the end of ww2.

add to that iraq, an illegal war, deaths estimated @ 100,000. it will be a long time before any other nation in the modern world reaches those totals.

I hope!!!

Tens of millions of Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Zoroastrians and every other infidel have been massacred by the Muhammadan over the course of 1400 yrs.

4 million Christians and Darfurians have been slaughtered, so far, by Muslims in Sudan.

Islam decrees jihad mass murder.

Now, you know

 

[u2scram]

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"Roger Tucker ( A Jew incidentally) argues that Zionism and Nazism are "identical manifestations of the same basic pathology" and that they are "equally dangerous to the well being of humanity". He says that although Zionism ultimately cannot sustain itself, to be complacent would risk inflicting "immense harm" on humanity.

Zionism and Nazism – differences and similarities

What, then, are the differences and similarities between Zionism and Nazism? If we go back to the definition of Nazism we see four characteristics mentioned. One of them was a reference to a transient political ideology, communism, while the other three are historical constants. Throwing out “anti-communism” we are left with the essential elements. When we look at Zionism in terms of what it actually is rather than some devious, self-serving Zionist definition we find “nationalism, traditionalism and the importance of the ethnostate”. We also find the essential elements of fascism in general, the arrogance of group ego and the assertion of an a priori privilege that trumps any such fripperies as civil rights, human rights, international law or even common human decency. Coercion and force majeure are the means and virtual enslavement or extermination of the “others” (the goyim – gentiles) are the ends. Characteristically, we also find the common element of a sense of infinite entitlement based on perceived prior victimhood.

As for any arguments based on the obvious or perceived differences between Zionism and Nazism, we can easily dismiss them as superficialities, rather than any differences that make a difference. Substantively, they are identical manifestations of the same basic pathology and they are equally dangerous to the well being of humanity. We can comfort ourselves with the knowledge that the bullies never win in the end, because underneath the bluster they are abject cowards and cowardice can’t sustain itself in the long term. But that doesn’t mean we can just sit back and wait for them to meet their inevitable fate – as we have seen, they are capable of doing immense harm in the meantime.

All of the great wisdom traditions are in agreement that we are human beings first and anything else is at best a secondary characteristic. As long as there remains any confusion about this, various forms of fascism will arise and bedevil us. As long as we identify ourselves primarily in some tribal fashion, whether it's based on nationality, ethnicity, religion, gender or any parochial and exclusionary manner, then confusion and conflict will reign supreme. We shall indeed overcome, if we last that long, but only when it is universally understood that We refers to all of us. In the meantime, silence is complicity.

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, you better duck!"

Roger Tucker is a Jewish American activist in the One Democratic State movement.
This is a copywrite violation. You need to link your source-Meister

there is no copywrite violation. there is no copywrite on this item like 99% of the stuff on the net.

Wrong. Link Anything You Copy and Paste from the Web.

 

[Marc39]

]"Roger Tucker ( A Jew incidentally) argues that Zionism and Nazism are "identical manifestations of the same basic pathology" and that they are "equally dangerous to the well being of humanity".

Denigration of Jewishself-determination, which is Zionism, constitutes anti-Semitism under US and EU guidelines.

Take your mental illness elsewhere, psycho

US Department of State
Contemporary Global Anti-Semitism:A Report Provided to the United States Congress

Anti-Semitism is one of the oldest forms of malicious intolerance and violates the precepts of human dignity and equality that are fundamental to a free and peaceful society.
History has shown that wherever anti-Semitism has gone unchecked, the persecution of others has been present or not far behind.

Defeating anti-Semitism must be a cause of great importance not only for Jews, but for all people who value humanity and justice and want to live in a more tolerant, peaceful world. Together, we must continue our efforts to monitor and combat anti-Semitism in all of its forms wherever and whenever it occurs.

Forms of Anti-Semitism

Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination.…
Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
Contemporary Global Anti-Semitism:A Report Provided to the United States Congress

EUMC...
Examples of the ways in which antiSemitism manifests itself with regard to the state of Israel, drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis

Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, eg, by claiming that the existence of a state of Israel is a racist endeavor.

FRA - European Union Agency for Fundamental Rights

 

[u2scram]

""Denigration of Jewishself-determination, which is Zionism, constitutes anti-Semitism under US and EU guidelines.""

so what?

not all jews are zionists and not all zionists are jews.

there are many orgs within "israel" that are protesting the brutality of the israeli regime, and there are many religious jews who loathe the idea of zionism.

True Torah Jews Against Zionism

B'Tselem - The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the ... - [ Terjemahkan halaman ini ]
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WIKI: "Amnesty International says that Israel's settlement policy is illegal, discriminatory and a violation of Palestinian human rights:
'As well as violating international humanitarian law per se, the implementation of Israel's settlement policy in the Occupied Territories violates fundamental human rights provisions, including the prohibition of discrimination. The seizure and appropriations of land for Israeli settlements, bypass roads and related infrastructure and discriminatory allocation of other vital resources, including water, have had a devastating impact on the fundamental rights of the local Palestinian population, including their rights to an adequate standard of living, housing, health, education, and work, and freedom of movement within the Occupied Territories."[1]
The Israeli human rights centre B'Tselem and other sources have indicated that the road blocks scattered inside the West Bank between Palestinian cities and villages which are designed to protect the settlers from Arab snipers firing on Israeli drivers, as well as Arab ambushes of Israelis, have had a significant impact on freedom of movement. While the road blocks are also said to protect Israelis within Israel, according to B'Tselem, the (siege) "imprisons entire populations within their communities or in a small geographic area and limits their access to other parts of the West Bank."[2][3][4]"

 

[Marc39]

""Denigration of Jewishself-determination, which is Zionism, constitutes anti-Semitism under US and EU guidelines.""

so what?

not all jews are zionists and not all zionists are jews.[/B]

You don't actually know what you're talking about, so why pretend?

Zionism is merely Jewish self-determination.

Anyone opposed to this simple proposition is anti-Semitic.

Case closed.

 

[P F Tinmore]

How many Jews and their families are currently living in Gaza?

"Princeton"

Gaza is not a sovereign Arab state, high school dropout. Gaza remains unallocated sovereign Israeli land under the terms of the binding Palestine Mandate.

Your lesson for the day.

There are people living on sovereign Israeli land and they can't vote?

 

[P F Tinmore]

""Denigration of Jewishself-determination, which is Zionism, constitutes anti-Semitism under US and EU guidelines.""

so what?

not all jews are zionists and not all zionists are jews.[/B]

You don't actually know what you're talking about, so why pretend?

Zionism is merely Jewish self-determination.

Anyone opposed to this simple proposition is anti-Semitic.

Case closed.

Determined to steal, kill, and lie.

 

[Marc39]

How many Jews and their families are currently living in Gaza?

"Princeton"

Gaza is not a sovereign Arab state, high school dropout. Gaza remains unallocated sovereign Israeli land under the terms of the binding Palestine Mandate.

Your lesson for the day.

There are people living on sovereign Israeli land and they can't vote?

People are not necessarily citizens. Surely, even a gimp like you can understand this.

All Israeli citizens are accorded the right to vote.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Gaza is not a sovereign Arab state, high school dropout. Gaza remains unallocated sovereign Israeli land under the terms of the binding Palestine Mandate.

Your lesson for the day.

There are people living on sovereign Israeli land and they can't vote?

People are not necessarily citizens. Surely, even a gimp like you can understand this.

All Israeli citizens are accorded the right to vote.

The vast majority of Gazans were born on sovereign Israeli land but are not citizens.

Interesting concept.

BTW, what is the country of birth on their birth certificates?