Zelenskyy is to blame for the Russia-Ukraine war

[pknopp]

That's Russian revisionist history. You do Putin's bidding by repeating it.

https://www.reuters.com/world/russi...-western-response-not-encouraging-2021-12-17/

Russia was out to dismember Ukraine no matter what. That's reality. They were already invading Ukraine well before any NATO talk.

Your claims are just flat out wrong. You're giving us a version of history that's like "Hitler wouldn't have invaded Poland if Britain and France hadn't allied with them.

https://www.reuters.com/world/russi...-western-response-not-encouraging-2021-12-17/

Were they lying? We will never know will we? We went back on our word and look at the mess.

 

[Arlette]

A peace deal could be had if Ukraine is willing to give land in return for peace. Will Zelenskyy take it? Does he want peace or not?

---Trump suggests Zelenskyy is to blame for the Russia-Ukraine war---​

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/17/trump-zelenskyy-biden-russia-ukraine-war-blame-00184173

Trump is a Putin fluffer

 

[peacefan]

Moldovans go to polls to decide whether future lies with Russia or the west

Presidential election and EU referendum take place amid concerns over interference from Moscow

www.theguardian.com

yet another Zelensky in the making?
of the same ilk as that woman who is now running Taiwan?
clinging to near-unconditional NATO support?

 

[sartre play]

A quick photo look at the places in that corner of the world that Russia has attacked in the last 25 years
Would tell you a different story.

 

[Billo_Really]

A peace deal could be had if Ukraine is willing to give land in return for peace. Will Zelenskyy take it? Does he want peace or not?

---Trump suggests Zelenskyy is to blame for the Russia-Ukraine war---​

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/17/trump-zelenskyy-biden-russia-ukraine-war-blame-00184173

This proves Trump is a total Putin kiss-ass!

 

[bdtex]

---Trump suggests Zelenskyy is to blame for the Russia-Ukraine war---

Trump is still mad at him for not giving Rudy any fake dirt on Joe/Hunter.

 

[luiza]

So is it Mr Z, or Nuttyyahoo who's this month's MIC poster boy?

~S~

Gupta 1
See The Most Beautiful Music in the World thread .
I have never listened to so much unadulterated musical ear ache in my life .
There is a video of some Buggeralians practising side Stepping with violins screeching in the background .
See if you dare beat my record of listening for 45 seconds before I ran out of the room .
I cannot imagine Midget or Nutty being as primitive and disgusting as that .

MK Ultra -- play that non stop to the Nazisraelites and they would soon surrender and move .

 

[peacefan]

So is it Mr Z, or Nuttyyahoo who's this month's MIC poster boy?

~S~

would you rather see Putin then? he runs an MIC of sorts.
and he takes his t-shirt off!

 

[ElmerMudd]

No logic^

View attachment 1028222

Russia is no better or worse compared to the USA.

We have invaded countries to

Oh my! You are not an American patriot. You cannot equate Russia's wars to the US wars unless you are a Putin ass kisser.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Trump and you MAGA shit stains are Putin lap dogs. You are beyond disgusting.

Lennypartiv is a Putin enabler, not a patriotic American. Who are these douche bags.

 

[sparky]

would you rather see Putin then? he runs an MIC of sorts.
and he takes his t-shirt off!

I would rather it explained what dog we have in this fight 'peace' fan..... ~S~

 

[skye]

Trump is right.

Trump is right almost every time.

He is right in this too.

 

[georgephillip]

Not really, he’s just a puppet of the US State Department. The war happened because of the warmongers in the US.

The good news and the bad news.
The good news: Zelensky has a peace plan.
The bad news: his plan requires a NATO imposed no-fly zone over Ukraine.
Does that sound peaceful?

October 18, 2024

Zelensky’s 5/8ths Victory Plan​

Jack Rasmus

"Zelensky’s 5-Point Victory Plan

"Of the five points he did describe in his speech, at the top of his list as point number one, Zelensky said Ukraine was inviting NATO to offer it immediate membership in NATO.

"Note this meant that Ukraine was no longer waiting for NATO to invite it, Ukraine, to join; Ukraine was inviting NATO to ask it to join.

"The Zelensky Plan’s precondition for victory was thus immediate NATO membership!

"Zelensky called his second point Defense.

"That meant NATO providing Ukraine still more weapons, especially more missiles, planes and drones.

"To quote him directly, Zelensky called for 'joint shooting down of Russian planes and missiles'.

"That suggests direct involvement by NATO planes and NATO manned anti-missile systems.

"It perhaps even suggests a NATO enforced ‘no fly’ zone, a demand that Zelensky has been proposing for quite some time."

 

[luiza]

Oh my! You are not an American patriot. You cannot equate Russia's wars to the US wars unless you are a Putin ass kisser.

Exactly

America never wins so it hides behind others and then both of them lose .
Russia is the opposite.
So if you are American , you should kiss something or somebody, and hope something good rubs off .
Because , oh boy , you need it .Mr Belmer Dudd .

 

[el midgetron]

No logic^

View attachment 1028222

Russia is no better or worse compared to the USA.

We have invaded countries to

Let’s not forget this one -

 

[peacefan]

I would rather it explained what dog we have in this fight 'peace' fan..... ~S~

every reason you'd also fight highschool bullies over for instance.

 

[sparky]

The good news and the bad news.
The good news: Zelensky has a peace plan.
The bad news: his plan requires a NATO imposed no-fly zone over Ukraine.
Does that sound peaceful?

October 18, 2024

Zelensky’s 5/8ths Victory Plan​

Jack Rasmus

"Zelensky’s 5-Point Victory Plan

"Of the five points he did describe in his speech, at the top of his list as point number one, Zelensky said Ukraine was inviting NATO to offer it immediate membership in NATO.

"Note this meant that Ukraine was no longer waiting for NATO to invite it, Ukraine, to join; Ukraine was inviting NATO to ask it to join.

"The Zelensky Plan’s precondition for victory was thus immediate NATO membership!

"Zelensky called his second point Defense.

"That meant NATO providing Ukraine still more weapons, especially more missiles, planes and drones.

"To quote him directly, Zelensky called for 'joint shooting down of Russian planes and missiles'.

"That suggests direct involvement by NATO planes and NATO manned anti-missile systems.

"It perhaps even suggests a NATO enforced ‘no fly’ zone, a demand that Zelensky has been proposing for quite some time."

So Mr Z's 'peace' plan is all about the west's big stick, which sounds similar to Mr Yahoo's plan

what's in this for us?

~S~

 

[frigidweirdo]

A peace deal could be had if Ukraine is willing to give land in return for peace. Will Zelenskyy take it? Does he want peace or not?

---Trump suggests Zelenskyy is to blame for the Russia-Ukraine war---​

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/17/trump-zelenskyy-biden-russia-ukraine-war-blame-00184173

Republicans: "The criminal is the only one responsible for their own actions"

"Republicans: "Putin isn't responsible for committing a crime"

Er....

 

[pknopp]

Republicans: "The criminal is the only one responsible for their own actions"

"Republicans: "Putin isn't responsible for committing a crime"

Er....

As a country we would have done the same thing Russia did. We have attacked other countries over less.

 

[frigidweirdo]

As a country we would have done the same thing Russia did. We have attacked other countries over less.

Oh yes. The US is far from innocent. Which is why I guess Republicans have no problem with it.