Zelenskyy is to blame for the Russia-Ukraine war

[georgephillip]

So Mr Z's 'peace' plan is all about the west's big stick, which sounds similar to Mr Yahoo's plan

what's in this for us?

~S~

Endless wars to combat capitalism's inherent trend of underconsumption?

Global Capitalism Has Become Dependent on War-Making to Sustain Itself

"In late March, the Biden administration, citing the Russian invasion, called for a $31 billion increase in the Pentagon budget over the previous year and on top of an emergency appropriation weeks earlier of $14 billion for Ukraine’s defense.

"Prior to the invasion, in late 2021, the U.S. government approved a nearly $800 billion military budget, even as, in the same year, it ended the war in Afghanistan.

"Almost overnight following the Russian invasion, the U.S., European Union, and other governments around the world allocated billions of dollars in additional military spending and sent streams of military hardware and private military contractors into Ukraine."

 

[22lcidw]

Endless wars to combat capitalism's inherent trend of underconsumption?

Global Capitalism Has Become Dependent on War-Making to Sustain Itself

"In late March, the Biden administration, citing the Russian invasion, called for a $31 billion increase in the Pentagon budget over the previous year and on top of an emergency appropriation weeks earlier of $14 billion for Ukraine’s defense.

"Prior to the invasion, in late 2021, the U.S. government approved a nearly $800 billion military budget, even as, in the same year, it ended the war in Afghanistan.

"Almost overnight following the Russian invasion, the U.S., European Union, and other governments around the world allocated billions of dollars in additional military spending and sent streams of military hardware and private military contractors into Ukraine."

When the draft ended, the result of a higher defense budget was a given. Include that with the military/industrial complex with the current labor and DEI situation and this is where we are at.

 

[pknopp]

Oh yes. The US is far from innocent. Which is why I guess Republicans have no problem with it.

It's not our business. Other than to have lived up to our previous words, which we did not.

 

[Dr.Know]

So many fascist Putinsuckers here, all stone-cold traitors to the USA.

They see Russia as a white-supremacist Christofascist utopia, and they want that hellish system for the USA.

Meanwhile, the normal people point out that the nation that invaded the other nation is the bad guy, and that to reward the bad guy is to invite more invasions.

sure and you think OUR system of pacifying and glorifying CRIME in Black crime ridden utopian cities is better ??? You can walk the streets at night in most of Russia,,,,try that in the USA without getting jacked.

Hellish system ??? My friend, you should go live in Africa for a year; when you return, you would kiss David Dukes ass.
The Deep State is trying to pull Russia into another long war in order to collapse their system; the very same thing your beloved C I A did to the Soviet Union by using Afghanistan.

 

[lennypartiv]

Endless wars to combat capitalism's inherent trend of underconsumption?

That's only one reason why war is a good thing. A new war every 10 or 15 years lets us test our newest weaponry. It also sends a message to the third world countries not to start crap with the bigger countries like us.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Exactly

America never wins so it hides behind others and then both of them lose .
Russia is the opposite.
So if you are American , you should kiss something or somebody, and hope something good rubs off .
Because , oh boy , you need it .Mr Belmer Dudd .

Putin loves people like you

 

[Quasar44]

Z is a 2 faced fraud
He and his chronies have raked in hundreds of millions!
Z refuses any peace

 

[mamooth]

sure and you think OUR system of pacifying and glorifying CRIME in Black crime ridden utopian cities is better ??? You can walk the streets at night in most of Russia,,,,try that in the USA without getting jacked.

So you're telling us you've never actually been to a US city.

Stay home in the trailer, Cletus, and let your masters continue to terrrify you into cringing obedience.

 

[georgephillip]

That's only one reason why war is a good thing. A new war every 10 or 15 years lets us test our newest weaponry. It also sends a message to the third world countries not to start crap with the bigger countries like us.

How many additional millions of civilians will become dead, maimed, or displaced from new wars of aggression?

 

[para bellum]

A peace deal could be had if Ukraine is willing to give land in return for peace. Will Zelenskyy take it? Does he want peace or not?

So if squatters show up on your land and setup an encampment, you will negotiate with them over how much of your land you will let them keep?

 

[peacefan]

So if squatters show up on your land and setup an encampment, you will negotiate with them over how much of your land you will let them keep?

i would in the Ukraine case. the Ukranians and Russians got both slaughtered enough already.

 

[Lesh]

A peace deal could be had if Ukraine is willing to give land in return for peace. Will Zelenskyy take it? Does he want peace or not?

---Trump suggests Zelenskyy is to blame for the Russia-Ukraine war---​

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/17/trump-zelenskyy-biden-russia-ukraine-war-blame-00184173

Zelensky is to blame?

So if Putin went to war with us to take back Alaska, it would be our fault if we resisted that?

 

[Hollie]

So many fascist Putinsuckers here, all stone-cold traitors to the USA.

They see Russia as a white-supremacist Christofascist utopia, and they want that hellish system for the USA.

Meanwhile, the normal people point out that the nation that invaded the other nation is the bad guy, and that to reward the bad guy is to invite more invasions.

As your goofy conspiracy theories go, that was among the worst.

 

[para bellum]

i would in the Ukraine case. the Ukranians and Russians got both slaughtered enough already.

Well it's easy to give away something that doesn't belong to you...

 

[munkle]

It is the US's fault for overthrowing President Yanukovych and trying to make Ukraine a part of NATO, which Putin warned over and over don't go there. Russia would not tolerate NATO missiles in Ukraine 300 miles from Moscow, the same as we would not tolerate Russian or Chinese missiles in Tijuana.

This is the best overview, famous University of Chicago International Relations Professor John Mearsheimer. Watch this and your IQ will go up.

 

[peacefan]

Well it's easy to give away something that doesn't belong to you...

you misunderstood me. i meant : if i were Zelensky, ...

 

[peacefan]

Zelensky is to blame?

So if Putin went to war with us to take back Alaska, it would be our fault if we resisted that?

Alaska is covered by NATO article 5.
Ukraine is not, coz they're a nation at war.

 

[Lesh]

Alaska is covered by NATO article 5.
Ukraine is not, coz they're a nation at war.

While true… that had nothing to do with the point I made

 

[Lesh]

It is the US's fault for overthrowing President Yanukovych and trying to make Ukraine a part of NATO, which Putin warned over and over don't go there. Russia would not tolerate NATO missiles in Ukraine 300 miles from Moscow, the same as we would not tolerate Russian or Chinese missiles in Tijuana.

This is the best overview, famous University of Chicago International Relations Professor John Mearsheimer. Watch this and your IQ will go up.

Does Putin pay you directly or do you go through cutouts?

 

[Lesh]

So many fascist Putinsuckers here, all stone-cold traitors to the USA.

They see Russia as a white-supremacist Christofascist utopia, and they want that hellish system for the USA.

Meanwhile, the normal people point out that the nation that invaded the other nation is the bad guy, and that to reward the bad guy is to invite more invasions.

And Trump blamed Putin’s invasion on Ukraine