Zelensky is fighting Trump’s ceasefire efforts, "Russia must return all territory gained since 2014

[Zavulon]

Best way to have Russia March to the Polish border

Russia has been very deliberate and clear that they are only interested in the Russians east of the Dneiper

No. Of course Russia didn't said that. Russia is interested in the de-nazification and demilitarization of the whole Ukraine, of returning NATO's military infrastructure back to 1997 borders, and creating the system of equal rights and equal safety.
Russia is interested in all Russians, wherever they live - west of Dniepr, west of Zbruch, in Narva (Estonia) or in New-York (USA).

 

[Zavulon]

If that was Putin's only goal then why did he also take Chechnya & Georgia?

Putin is after all the Baltic states, Poland & all of Europe it can take.

We spent $23 Trillion on Defense since 9/11 largely due to Russia sending weapons to Iran, Iraq & Afghans. This paltry $179 billion of made in the USA aid to Ukraine is doing heavy damage to Russian aggression into Europe.

Russians do want to kill all Frenches and Germans only because they want to kill all Russians. If the system of the equal safety is possible - it is preferable.

 

[luiza]

If that was Putin's only goal then why did he also take Chechnya & Georgia?

Putin is after all the Baltic states, Poland & all of Europe it can take.

We spent $23 Trillion on Defense since 9/11 largely due to Russia sending weapons to Iran, Iraq & Afghans. This paltry $179 billion of made in the USA aid to Ukraine is doing heavy damage to Russian aggression into Europe.

Do not overlook that Russia is "short" of at least 100 million population relative to size/available resources / potential .
There is no obvious need or sense for it to take further territories .
Pooters does not really need the Baltics , though having them would make matters neater and tidier .

But the EU and US retaliation efforts would not make it worthwhile to go on a scrap acquiring binge .

All this idle chat about Pooters being a Genghis Khan fan are BS . There is no evidence for it and several big reasons to deny it .

But naturally the BS convinces the Sheeple to create more billionaires in the "defense" areas---- to enrich the Shakers and Movers and throw more kick -backs to Politicians and Contractors .

All the Stupids and Gullibles doing what they do best --- being Stupid and Gullible .

 

[Ringo]

We spent $23 Trillion on Defense since 9/11 largely due to Russia sending weapons to Iran, Iraq & Afghans.

And, none of these countries were involved in 9/11.....

 

[Deadstick]

There has always been a solution. From the start of Russia's invasion, the US & EU have Banned Ukraine from attacking across Russian borders.

With those stupid rules, there was no way Ukraine could destroy Russia's war machine safely building new weapons & soldiers inside their borders. This allowed Russia to perpetually attack Ukraine without them being allowed to hit back.

You must have missed the news, NATO missiles have been used against Russia for some time, and if you think any amount of weapons given to the Nazi regime in Kiev they could ever overcome Russia you need to see a trick cyclist.

 

[Deadstick]

If that was Putin's only goal then why did he also take Chechnya & Georgia?

Putin is after all the Baltic states, Poland & all of Europe it can take.

We spent $23 Trillion on Defense since 9/11 largely due to Russia sending weapons to Iran, Iraq & Afghans. This paltry $179 billion of made in the USA aid to Ukraine is doing heavy damage to Russian aggression into Europe.

Ar you feeling quite alright?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

If that was Putin's only goal then why did he also take Chechnya & Georgia?

Putin is after all the Baltic states, Poland & all of Europe it can take.

We spent $23 Trillion on Defense since 9/11 largely due to Russia sending weapons to Iran, Iraq & Afghans. This paltry $179 billion of made in the USA aid to Ukraine is doing heavy damage to Russian aggression into Europe.

We can’t be sure exactly what that $23T went towards, but it wasn’t all for defense

 

[Ringo]

"You MUST agree to a ceasefire because we REALLY need to build up new defences and resupply our frontline troops RIGHT NOW, so you HAVE to stop advancing otherwise it's not FAIR"
I swear it's like fighting a war against a toddler on drugs...

"If you don't capitulate right now, that means you want to WIN instead of surrendering to us for literally zero fucking reason whatsoever".
Every Russian diplomat who has to actually listen to this schizophasia should be a candidate for canonization by virtue of saintly patience

 

[marvin martian]

Zelensky would be an idiot listening to Trump, actually................. anyone would.

Trump is extorting Ukraine for his buddy......PUTIN.
Why isn't Trump asking Putin for ANYTHING?

When dementia-addled Joe Biden invited Putin to invade Ukraine, you cheered and said he was "as sharp as a tack".

This is your fault.

 

[Deadstick]

"You MUST agree to a ceasefire because we REALLY need to build up new defences and resupply our frontline troops RIGHT NOW, so you HAVE to stop advancing otherwise it's not FAIR"
I swear it's like fighting a war against a toddler on drugs...

"If you don't capitulate right now, that means you want to WIN instead of surrendering to us for literally zero fucking reason whatsoever".
Every Russian diplomat who has to actually listen to this schizophasia should be a candidate for canonization by virtue of saintly patience

Well drugs have that effect on people.

 

[KissMy]

You must have missed the news, NATO missiles have been used against Russia for some time, and if you think any amount of weapons given to the Nazi regime in Kiev they could ever overcome Russia you need to see a trick cyclist.

They have only been allowed to attack inside Russia for less than a year. The first 3 years they weren't allowed to strike back. This caused enormous loss of soldiers & damage to Ukraine. Once the gloves were off Ukraine took huge swaths of land inside Russia & destroyed weapons depots & railroad infrastructure. They also damaged Moscow. If this were allowed from the start, the outcome would have been much better for Ukraine.

A Ukrainian pilot's reported record-breaking shootdown of six missiles with an F-16 offers insight into how much its air force has developed as it fights back against Russia's invasion. This is a world record feat that beats any US pilot.

 

[Zavulon]

They have only been allowed to attack inside Russia for less than a year. The first 3 years they weren't allowed to strike back. This caused enormous loss of soldiers & damage to Ukraine. Once the gloves were off Ukraine took huge swaths of land inside Russia & destroyed weapons depots & railroad infrastructure. They also damaged Moscow. If this were allowed from the start, the outcome would have been much better for Ukraine.

No. If Ukraine (and NATO) takes gloves off, then Russia takes gloves off, too. And it mean, that Ukraine and NATO are defeated much earlier and with larger amounts of victims and collateral damage.

A Ukrainian pilot's reported record-breaking shootdown of six missiles with an F-16 offers insight into how much its air force has developed as it fights back against Russia's invasion. This is a world record feat that beats any US pilot.

Yep. That's all what you need to know about Ukraine and Ukrainians. They talk too much and most of it is just fairy tales.

 

[Deadstick]

They have only been allowed to attack inside Russia for less than a year. The first 3 years they weren't allowed to strike back. This caused enormous loss of soldiers & damage to Ukraine. Once the gloves were off Ukraine took huge swaths of land inside Russia & destroyed weapons depots & railroad infrastructure. They also damaged Moscow. If this were allowed from the start, the outcome would have been much better for Ukraine.

A Ukrainian pilot's reported record-breaking shootdown of six missiles with an F-16 offers insight into how much its air force has developed as it fights back against Russia's invasion. This is a world record feat that beats any US pilot.

You are deluded, only thing that has surprised me is that Russia has not taken a Nato base off the Map because those Sclalp and storm shadow missiles could not be launched without Nato personnel, i would have blown Ramstein to hell.

 

[Zavulon]

You are deluded, only thing that has surprised me is that Russia has not taken a Nato base off the Map because those Sclalp and storm shadow missiles could not be launched without Nato personnel, i would have blown Ramstein to hell.

There was an answer. But not public and deniable. NATO's missiles didn't kill anybody, just destroyed some property, so Russian answer was more or less non-lethal, but on the undisputed American soil.

 

[marvin martian]

I bet you were talking about Ukraine's close and inevitable victory just a while back, now the victory in Ukraine is no longer possible. Things going this way in another month or so and you'll be rooting for Putin, won't you?

Lefties like rightwinger and his ilk have ALWAYS rooted for Putin and Russia. Pretending we don't all remember nearly 100 years of the left licking Soviet/Russian ass is just their delusion talking.

 

[rightwinger]

Lefties like rightwinger and his ilk have ALWAYS rooted for Putin and Russia. Pretending we don't all remember nearly 100 years of the left licking Soviet/Russian ass is just their delusion talking.

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Remember the days when we actually offered Russia a Reset with the west.

But Putin had to Fuk it up

 

[Zavulon]

Remember the days when we actually offered Russia a Reset with the west.

But Putin had to Fuk it up

Actually, it were NATO countries who had destroyed the possibility of the peaceful coexistence.

 

[AlexanderPK]

Remember the days when we actually offered Russia a Reset with the west.

But Putin had to Fuk it up

Remember when you morons couldn't even find the right translator and called what was supposed to be a "reset" an "overload"?
Перегрузка was what you wrote on that button, which means overload,
You may have meant перезагрузка, which is a reset, but as you named the boat, so it floated.
Anyway, Biden or Trump, there's no future for good relations between the US and Russia.

 

[rightwinger]

Anyway, Biden or Trump, there's no future for good relations between the US and Russia.

Who the fuk would want good relations with Putin?

 

[AlexanderPK]

Who the fuk would want good relations with Putin?

Who the fuck would want any relations with scumbags like you?