Zalensky unhappy about peace.

[Donald H]

He wants the money train to keep coming. I can't wait until a few years from now and we start seeing where all the money went.

Trump can't be planiing to end the war. He'll get whacked by the military if he tries it.

Truth is, he won't offer Putin what it takes for peace.

Say you heard it from Donald H first.

 

[Donald H]

America under the Biden Collective, we can’t say Biden Presidency because he was severely incapacitated and the Progressive Collective made all the decisions, was owned by and reported to the WEF and BlackRock

The bankers bought $12 Trillion of Ukraine natural resources for fractions of a penny; USAID and Obama funded the coup that gave BlackRock title to Ukraine.

Not satisfied, the bankers were confident that Ukraine with NATO backing, could defeat Russia and oust Putin, thereby giving them control of $80T of Russia resources.

Russia was NEVER going to allow Ukraine, home of 30+ US bioweapon labs to join NATO. NEVER!

NATOs one and only use was to break Russia so the bankers would seize control of their resources. Because the Biden Collective was so weak, stupid and compromised and controlled, NATO weak and feckless as they were, is a now a deteriorated shell with the scrap heap as it’s future

That all sounds good to me Frank. I'm just adding that Trump will be whacked by the millitary/Pentagon if he messes with the war.

America needs the win Frank. You'll see soon how Trump plans to bullshit his way out of his commitment.

 

[22lcidw]

Then you understand nothing in grand strategy and command.

I understand that we will not control 100% of the planet. And the costs of empire will destroy us. The NATO Europeans do not even want to pay for their defense and want us to pay for them and you approve of that.

 

[Moonglow]

I understand that we will not control 100% of the planet. And the costs of empire will destroy us. The NATO Europeans do not even want to pay for their defense and want us to pay for them and you approve of that.

Part of the sharing of power that has controlled the planet for several hundred years.

 

[sparky]

Trying to sell peace to sorts that simply don't want it is the problem here ~S~

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I expect him to move into a mansion in one of Obama’s neighborhoods.

 

[Zavulon]

 

[Zavulon]

I expect him to move into a mansion in one of Obama’s neighborhoods.

More likely, they'll send him to meet Usama bin Laden.

 

[justoffal]

Trump isn't allowed to end the war against Russia. That would/will result in China and Russia together against US aggression and Brics becoming the world's most powerful superpower bloc by far.

If Russia stops the US in the Ukraine, America will be forever the 'also ran'.

That is now unavoidable.

 

[Care4all]

Trump is trying to get a peace deal but Zelensky keeps beating the drums of war.

Shouldn't Zekensky have been a major player and included....how is trump trying for a peace agreement with only Putin and what Putin, the WAR CRIMMINAL wants? Screw your head back on, pretty please!

 

[Blaster]

Shouldn't Zekensky have been a major player and included....how is trump trying for a peace agreement with only Putin and what Putin, the WAR CRIMMINAL wants? Screw your head back on, pretty please!

Trump is laying the groundwork for a peace agreement and Zelensky will be in the negotiations once that is in place.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

 

[xyz]

Ukraine is gaining ground in the Kursk region. Putin doesn't want peace.

Really it doesn't look like either side can make huge gains in the near future, and Putin does not care about his losses (more in military personnel than territory).

 

[TimFitz]

Trump is trying to get a peace deal but Zelensky keeps beating the drums of war.

Trump is selling Ukraine out.

If you think that peace is going to be the outcome, you’re a bigger fool than the clown you’re making up excuses for.

Ukraine is not going to give up.

And the Russians are going to violate any agreement Trump makes.

And when (another if) they do, Trump will kiss Putin’s ass again,

 

[TimFitz]

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Nobody is saying that except you.

 

[TimFitz]

America under the Biden Collective, we can’t say Biden Presidency because he was severely incapacitated and the Progressive Collective made all the decisions, was owned by and reported to the WEF and BlackRock

The bankers bought $12 Trillion of Ukraine natural resources for fractions of a penny; USAID and Obama funded the coup that gave BlackRock title to Ukraine.

Not satisfied, the bankers were confident that Ukraine with NATO backing, could defeat Russia and oust Putin, thereby giving them control of $80T of Russia resources.

Russia was NEVER going to allow Ukraine, home of 30+ US bioweapon labs to join NATO. NEVER!

NATOs one and only use was to break Russia so the bankers would seize control of their resources. Because the Biden Collective was so weak, stupid and compromised and controlled, NATO weak and feckless as they were, is a now a deteriorated shell with the scrap heap as it’s future

Ukraine is not a NATO member because the United States blocked it.

 

[ThisIsMe]

He could have done this a year ago but instead he listened to Boris Johnson. By now Ukraine could have been well into reconstruction, well into economic recovery and well into taking care of its people once again. If an election was held today he would be resoundingly voted out and he knows it. Ending the war also means ending his dictatorial control over the country. The Lost territory is not coming back... At least not anytime soon.

It's time to stop perpetuating the myth that the United States is the global policeman. The rise of China on the horizon is the new reality. The next step in international relations will be determining what our place will be in the new arrangement. A country with less than 5% of the world's population can no longer control the entire world... It is simply an unreasonable and unsustainable position.

But for the simple agreement not to join NATO not a single Russian tank would ever have breached the Ukrainian border, Ukraine would still have all of its territory and it wouldn't be lying and ruins from border to border the way it is today.

Too bad Zalensky couldn't see the ill intent of NATO's greed and complete disregard for the lives of Ukrainian citizens.

I would expect that he will move out of country and live comfortably on the enormous fortune he has amassed as a result of this war. Perhaps he can find another sugar daddy in the EU. Russia has mentioned that they have absolutely no problem at all should he decide to join the EU.

It certainly looks at this point as though all of the objections to peace are coming from the Ukraine and not from Russia.

It doesn't matter in the end...


Who do you think is going to be paying to rebuild all that..and giving tons of money while they recover?

this guy!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Ukraine is not a NATO member because the United States blocked it.

Are you this dense??

Russia would not allow NATO on their doorstep

 

[xyz]

Ukraine is not a NATO member because the United States blocked it.

Actually they can't become a NATO member if they have land that is occupied by another country.

Although the idea of Zelensky's plan would be to make an exception, and only have the unoccupied land become part of NATO. A new border would be set up in such a peace treaty. The occupied areas like Donetsk would not trigger a response from NATO, but if they crossed the new border, it would be the same as if France or Poland or any other NATO member was attacked.

Ukraine could hope that their lost territory could come back in some kind of deal in the future, but would not undertake any military steps in that direction.

This would probably be the best way to give Ukraine the necessary protection for a peace deal.

 

[Crepitus]

He could have done this a year ago but instead he listened to Boris Johnson. By now Ukraine could have been well into reconstruction, well into economic recovery and well into taking care of its people once again. If an election was held today he would be resoundingly voted out and he knows it. Ending the war also means ending his dictatorial control over the country. The Lost territory is not coming back... At least not anytime soon.

It's time to stop perpetuating the myth that the United States is the global policeman. The rise of China on the horizon is the new reality. The next step in international relations will be determining what our place will be in the new arrangement. A country with less than 5% of the world's population can no longer control the entire world... It is simply an unreasonable and unsustainable position.

But for the simple agreement not to join NATO not a single Russian tank would ever have breached the Ukrainian border, Ukraine would still have all of its territory and it wouldn't be lying and ruins from border to border the way it is today.

Too bad Zalensky couldn't see the ill intent of NATO's greed and complete disregard for the lives of Ukrainian citizens.

I would expect that he will move out of country and live comfortably on the enormous fortune he has amassed as a result of this war. Perhaps he can find another sugar daddy in the EU. Russia has mentioned that they have absolutely no problem at all should he decide to join the EU.

It certainly looks at this point as though all of the objections to peace are coming from the Ukraine and not from Russia.

Um, no. He's unhappy about letting Putin keep his ill gotten gains. Also probably unhappy that Putin will face no consequences for his unwarranted aggression.