Yup! The Jews have them outnumbered!

[Hafar1014]

The most logical solution would be for Egypt to absorb the Gazans and Jordan to absorb the Muslims from the West Bank. Egypt and Jordan lost those areas when they attacked Israel, and their people - and their descendants - should return to their native countries.

They wont take them because they are violent. Mental illness and addiction are common. This is a sick culture

 

[JoeB131]

The indigenous people of Palestine are Jews who lived there 3000 years before Islam even existed. Gazans are from Egypt and the Muslims on the West Bank are from Jordan.
Hamas are the oppressors of Gaza.

That's like saying the Romans were the indigenous people of Italy.

Except since then, Italy has seen migrations by the Ostrogoths, Lombards, Normans, etc, and they aren't the same people.

Just because a bunch of Europeans CLAIM a kinship to people who lived there 3000 years ago doesn't make it so.

 

[toomuchtime_]

That's like saying the Romans were the indigenous people of Italy.

Except since then, Italy has seen migrations by the Ostrogoths, Lombards, Normans, etc, and they aren't the same people.

Just because a bunch of Europeans CLAIM a kinship to people who lived there 3000 years ago doesn't make it so.

The Jews had a right to be there because they were invited to move to the Ottoman empire by the Sultan after they were expelled by Spain, and European Jews had been moving to the Empire ever since. After control of the Empire passed to the British Empire and the League of Nations after WWI, European Jews were invited to emigrate to Israel to establish a Jewish homeland there. There is no rational basis for claiming the so called Palestinians had the right to any land other than private property they may have owned.

 

[Roudy]

yeah, that sounds like something you'd read out of a Comic Book.

In the real world, the Palestinians are like any other indigenous people, fighting against colonial oppressors.

Ha ha ha. Talk about comical. The land has been the ancient Jewish religious and ancestral homeland for the last 4000 years. Palestinian is a European name for the region, which the invading, squatting Arabs started calling themselves circa 1960’s. Even their flag is a bullshit invention, they literally took the Jordanian flag and removed the star. Palestine is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated in humanity.

 

[Roudy]

That's like saying the Romans were the indigenous people of Italy.

Except since then, Italy has seen migrations by the Ostrogoths, Lombards, Normans, etc, and they aren't the same people.

Just because a bunch of Europeans CLAIM a kinship to people who lived there 3000 years ago doesn't make it so.

It’s not only Europeans dipshit. Majority of a Jews in Israel today are those who had to flee from neighboring Arab lands, or their descendants.

 

[Roudy]

They wont take them because they are violent. Mental illness and addiction are common. This is a sick culture

They have also turned on the Arab countries they were let into, Lebanon, Kuwait, Syria, Egypt, Jordan, etc. all had to use military force to fight and expel them. Palestinians are responsible for the genocide and ethnic cleansing of Lebanese Christians.

 

[Roudy]

yeah, that sounds like something you'd read out of a Comic Book.

In the real world, the Palestinians are like any other indigenous people, fighting against colonial oppressors.

Arab invaders…”indigenous people”…ha ha ha, good one!

 

[JoeB131]

The Jews had a right to be there because they were invited to move to the Ottoman empire by the Sultan after they were expelled by Spain, and European Jews had been moving to the Empire ever since. After control of the Empire passed to the British Empire and the League of Nations after WWI, European Jews were invited to emigrate to Israel to establish a Jewish homeland there. There is no rational basis for claiming the so called Palestinians had the right to any land other than private property they may have owned.

First, neither the Sultan nor the League of Nations, the UN, nor the British Empire had any business giving away Palestinian land.

Are you really arguing that you only have a right as an American if you own property? Only 65% of Americans own their own home.

Arab invaders…”indigenous people”…ha ha ha, good one!

You make the mistake of thinking that changing a culture is an invasion or colonization. Not a lot of "Arabs" invaded Palestine 1500 years ago. What they did do was convert the local population to Islam and make Arabic the predominant language instead of Aramaic.

 

[toomuchtime_]

First, neither the Sultan nor the League of Nations, the UN, nor the British Empire had any business giving away Palestinian land.

Are you really arguing that you only have a right as an American if you own property? Only 65% of Americans own their own home.




You make the mistake of thinking that changing a culture is an invasion or colonization. Not a lot of "Arabs" invaded Palestine 1500 years ago. What they did do was convert the local population to Islam and make Arabic the predominant language instead of Aramaic.

The only land that can legitimately be called Palestinian land is whatever land they may privately own, and then only if their claim to own the land is in accord with the government's laws, which were Ottoman Turk laws until the Empire passed to the League of Nations after WW1, and then the British Empire decided what the laws were and after 1948 the state of Israel decided.

US citizens have a claim only on the land they privately own, but the US government, of course, governs all the land of the US. If there were a Palestinian state with defined borders and a Palestinian government a similar situation would apply, but since there has never been a Palestinian state or a legitimate Palestinian government, are subject to whatever laws or actions the effective government of the area chooses.

While it is likely some pagans chose to convert, the Muslims did not send out missionaries to convert the pagans, they sent out soldiers to conquer them and when the pagans were conquered they were given the choice to convert or to leave.

 

[JoeB131]

The only land that can legitimately be called Palestinian land is whatever land they may privately own, and then only if their claim to own the land is in accord with the government's laws, which were Ottoman Turk laws until the Empire passed to the League of Nations after WW1, and then the British Empire decided what the laws were and after 1948 the state of Israel decided.

So essentially, what you are arguing for is colonialism, but colonialism ended shortly after World War II. Israel is the last vestige of European Colonialism in the Middle East.

US citizens have a claim only on the land they privately own, but the US government, of course, governs all the land of the US. If there were a Palestinian state with defined borders and a Palestinian government a similar situation would apply, but since there has never been a Palestinian state or a legitimate Palestinian government, are subject to whatever laws or actions the effective government of the area chooses.

Um, no, not how that works at all. By most of the world, self-determination is determined by who lives in an area, and there are more Palestinians than Israelis. Only because the Zionists illegally maintain an apartheid state does it get away with even existing.

But Apartheid ended in South Africa, it will end in Palestine as well.

The best the Israelis can hope for is a two-state solution.

While it is likely some pagans chose to convert, the Muslims did not send out missionaries to convert the pagans, they sent out soldiers to conquer them and when the pagans were conquered they were given the choice to convert or to leave.

Actually, at the time of the Islamic Conquest, most of the Levant was Christian and under the rule of the Byzantine Empire. (The Byzantine and Parthian Empires bled each other white with a century of warfare, making it easy for the Caliphate to overrun them.

 

[Jarlaxle]

So wherever Zionists decide to live, if people move in who want to kill them, the Zionists should move. Way to blame the victims.

Joey laments the failure of the Final Solution.

 

[JoeB131]

Joey laments the failure of the Final Solution.

No, I just don't like that the Zionists are becoming like the Nazis.

It's like an abused child who grows up to be an abuser... it's tragic, but it's not acceptable.

 

[Pastelli]

I've noticed a lot of radical anti-Muslim sentiment here and other American forums. People wanting to off them.

Among (pro Islamofascism) (ex) Hondo 50 usernames:

(Some are removed already. Large fonts are recently active. Sometimes one backing each other...).

• Dean F (with Hitler worshipping Aug 18, 2024), is also:
• yeh (Aug 29. 2024. Previously with a photo of his Adolf Hitler as an avatar. Here under "yeh" denies the Holocaust).
• todd down under (Here he tries 2 accounts to talk to each other) (Sep 15, 2024);
• Hondo 50 (Sep 18, 2024);
• lech (Oct 13, 2024);
  
  
  log cabin republican (Aug 4, 2024)
  
  ;
• roderick (Aug 10, 2024);
• annalise (Dec 8. 2024);
• Davebb (Jan 11, 2025) and
• No Way (Jan 26, 2025).
• S.S. another hint in liking the Nazis, (Feb 6, 2025).
• stockhome (Feb 11, 2025)
• john finally retired (Apr 10, 2025);
• apolitical (Apr 13, 2025);
• stevez (Apr 14, 2025).
• Topeka (Apr 22, 2025) created only to defend his exposed other accounts)
• notyankee (July 29, 2025) (Defends his Muhammad, and Glorifies Hitler via invented "theories").
• Maj (Aug 1, 2025) [posing as a "jew"]
• charlottebronte666 (Aug 13, 2025) [defending his Islam and belittles the holocaust (like using the label "auschwitz" on genocidal Hamas' Gaza human shield regime) via "pro palestine"]
  
  
  Kyzina (Aug 20, 2025)
• john u (Sep 7, 2025);
• cowboy fan (Sep 12, 2025)
  
  he just circle K (Sep 12, 2025)
• lith leo (Sep 16, 2025)
• gold something (Sep 16, 2025) [posing as a "jew"]
• mex tex (Sep 18, 2025) [borrowing a "Mexican" pretense].
• Soul musician (Sep 20, 2025)
  
  
  
  the london fog (Oct 1, 2025)
  
  
  stan ford 4 (Oct 25, 2025)
  
  
• Moro maquina (Oct 25, 2025)
  
  
  Mac allen (Oct 26, 2025)
  devilish ray marsh (Nov 6, 2025).
  
  cascades (Nov 10, 2025)

Latest trick, this dozens of SP troll : he tries projection. The giveaway. Even via his very new accounts he tries to link the same one with another person.

 

[Shusha]

First, neither the Sultan nor the League of Nations, the UN, nor the British Empire had any business giving away Palestinian land.

No one "gave away" land, let alone anything that could be defined as "Palestinian" land. That's not how states and sovereignty work. The British, who were given the mandate to administer the territory, until various governments developed independence, simply recognized that the Jewish people ALSO lived in the land and ALSO had a right to self-determination.

You make the mistake of thinking that changing a culture is an invasion or colonization. Not a lot of "Arabs" invaded Palestine 1500 years ago. What they did do was convert the local population to Islam and make Arabic the predominant language instead of Aramaic.

That is what colonization is: imposing a foreign culture on a local, indigenous population. You can only do that if you bring a foreign culture to an indigenous population. When you bring armies to do it, we usually call it invasion or conquest.

 

[Shusha]

By most of the world, self-determination is determined by who lives in an area, and there are more Palestinians than Israelis.

Well, no. In many places in the world, then and now, self-determination is built upon a distinct identity, ethnicity, or culture.

 

[Roudy]

First, neither the Sultan nor the League of Nations, the UN, nor the British Empire had any business giving away Palestinian land.

Are you really arguing that you only have a right as an American if you own property? Only 65% of Americans own their own home.




You make the mistake of thinking that changing a culture is an invasion or colonization. Not a lot of "Arabs" invaded Palestine 1500 years ago. What they did do was convert the local population to Islam and make Arabic the predominant language instead of Aramaic.

Not the Jews, fuckwit. They have been genetically and culturally intact.

Arabs on the other hand invaded, that is how Islam spread.

 

[Roudy]

No, I just don't like that the Zionists are becoming like the Nazis.

It's like an abused child who grows up to be an abuser... it's tragic, but it's not acceptable.

Get over it scum, you hate Jews. By now it’s quite obvious.

Israel is here to stay.

 

[FDR_Reagan]

So you admit that Muslims want to obliterate the Jews.

"log capin republican" is listed in the 50+ SP accounts of that IMAM NAZI.
The paid poster.

 

[toomuchtime_]

So essentially, what you are arguing for is colonialism, but colonialism ended shortly after World War II. Israel is the last vestige of European Colonialism in the Middle East.



Um, no, not how that works at all. By most of the world, self-determination is determined by who lives in an area, and there are more Palestinians than Israelis. Only because the Zionists illegally maintain an apartheid state does it get away with even existing.

But Apartheid ended in South Africa, it will end in Palestine as well.

The best the Israelis can hope for is a two-state solution.



Actually, at the time of the Islamic Conquest, most of the Levant was Christian and under the rule of the Byzantine Empire. (The Byzantine and Parthian Empires bled each other white with a century of warfare, making it easy for the Caliphate to overrun them.

Far from being a part of European colonialism, it was the Israelis who chased the British colonialists out.

Self determination is a slogan that only rarely has application in the real world. The only self determination available to most peoples is secured by force and it almost invariably involves denying another peoples ability to determine their own fate.

All Muslim states have been apartheid states since they have separate laws for non Muslims. If you had even half of a functioning brain at work, you would realize that what the so called Palestinians aspire to is an apartheid state in which they rule over the Jews.

You mean the two state delusion that we all know now was never a real possibility. The conflict in the ME is just a flashpoint in the still simmering war between Western Civilization and Islam.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Colonialism.

Yeah right!