You're all lost.

[Anomalism]

You don't actually care about being accurate, realistic. You care about your side winning. Those are not the same thing, and you've never once stopped to notice the difference.

You will defend a lie if it came from your camp. You will attack a truth if it came from theirs. You've outsourced your reasoning to your identity and called it conviction. You haven't had an original thought about reality in your entire life, just reactions, just reflexes, just the primate satisfaction of seeing the enemy hurt.

The uncomfortable fact is that most people don't have beliefs. They have loyalties dressed up as beliefs. Epistemology cosplay. You couldn't tell me how you know what you know, because you don't know; you were told, and it felt right because everyone around you nodded.

And the anger. As if the intensity of your feelings is evidence of your correctness. As if volume is argument. You're not passionate about truth; you're addicted to the war. Truth would actually end it. You don't want it to end. The genuinely reality-oriented person is nearly extinct in public discourse. What's left is two mirror-image tribes, each convinced they're the rational ones, each using reason as a weapon rather than a compass, pointing it outward, never inward.

It's not a political problem. It's not even a cultural problem. It's a cognitive failure. And the worst part?

Most of you are proud of it.

Disgusting.

 

[martybegan]

You don't actually care about being accurate, realistic. You care about your side winning. Those are not the same thing, and you've never once stopped to notice the difference.

You will defend a lie if it came from your camp. You will attack a truth if it came from theirs. You've outsourced your reasoning to your identity and called it conviction. You haven't had an original thought about reality in your entire life, just reactions, just reflexes, just the primate satisfaction of seeing the enemy hurt.

The uncomfortable fact is that most people don't have beliefs. They have loyalties dressed up as beliefs. Epistemology cosplay. You couldn't tell me how you know what you know, because you don't know; you were told, and it felt right because everyone around you nodded.

And the anger. As if the intensity of your feelings is evidence of your correctness. As if volume is argument. You're not passionate about truth; you're addicted to the war. Truth would actually end it. You don't want it to end. The genuinely reality-oriented person is nearly extinct in public discourse. What's left is two mirror-image tribes, each convinced they're the rational ones, each using reason as a weapon rather than a compass, pointing it outward, never inward.

It's not a political problem. It's not even a cultural problem. It's a cognitive failure. And the worst part?

Most of you are proud of it.

Disgusting.

Welcome to reality coupled with our current Constitution and Political System.

Sorry if you want to play Football, but this is a Baseball field and a Baseball game.

 

[Chuz Life]

You don't actually care about being accurate, realistic. You care about your side winning. Those are not the same thing, and you've never once stopped to notice the difference.

You will defend a lie if it came from your camp. You will attack a truth if it came from theirs. You've outsourced your reasoning to your identity and called it conviction. You haven't had an original thought about reality in your entire life, just reactions, just reflexes, just the primate satisfaction of seeing the enemy hurt.

The uncomfortable fact is that most people don't have beliefs. They have loyalties dressed up as beliefs. Epistemology cosplay. You couldn't tell me how you know what you know, because you don't know; you were told, and it felt right because everyone around you nodded.

And the anger. As if the intensity of your feelings is evidence of your correctness. As if volume is argument. You're not passionate about truth; you're addicted to the war. Truth would actually end it. You don't want it to end. The genuinely reality-oriented person is nearly extinct in public discourse. What's left is two mirror-image tribes, each convinced they're the rational ones, each using reason as a weapon rather than a compass, pointing it outward, never inward.

It's not a political problem. It's not even a cultural problem. It's a cognitive failure. And the worst part?

Most of you are proud of it.

Disgusting.

I wish I had said that!^^^

 

[martybegan]

I wish I had said that!^^^

The problem is that it is like complaining your phaser isn't working when you are in the Star Wars Universe.

 

[Chuz Life]

The problem is that it is like complaining your phaser isn't working when you are in the Star Wars Universe.

The problem is that too few people care about anything but their own agenda. They don't care about the facts or the truth about really much of anything.

Feel free to try to change my mind about that.

 

[martybegan]

The problem is that too few people care about anything but their own agenda. They don't care about the facts or the truth about really much of anything.

Feel free to try to change my mind about that.

Why should I not care about my own Agenda? Only one side has to be magnanimous?

People need to stop linking facts and truth. Facts are just that. truth is far more vague.

It may be cathartic to throw up your hands and say nothing is working and everything sucks, but that does nothing to fix things.

 

[Rocko]

Most people are emotionally driven. Truth is secondary.

 

[Chuz Life]

Why should I not care about my own Agenda? Only one side has to be magnanimous?

People need to stop linking facts and truth. Facts are just that. truth is far more vague.

It may be cathartic to throw up your hands and say nothing is working and everything sucks, but that does nothing to fix things.

Platitudes.

 

[martybegan]

Most people are emotionally driven. Truth is secondary.

And facts are often an inconvenience.

Or opinions are paraded around as facts.

 

[martybegan]

Platitudes.

What is banal about what I just said?

 

[Dante]

You don't actually care about being accurate, realistic. You care about your side winning. Those are not the same thing, and you've never once stopped to notice the difference.

You will defend a lie if it came from your camp. You will attack a truth if it came from theirs. You've outsourced your reasoning to your identity and called it conviction. You haven't had an original thought about reality in your entire life, just reactions, just reflexes, just the primate satisfaction of seeing the enemy hurt.

The uncomfortable fact is that most people don't have beliefs. They have loyalties dressed up as beliefs. Epistemology cosplay. You couldn't tell me how you know what you know, because you don't know; you were told, and it felt right because everyone around you nodded.

And the anger. As if the intensity of your feelings is evidence of your correctness. As if volume is argument. You're not passionate about truth; you're addicted to the war. Truth would actually end it. You don't want it to end. The genuinely reality-oriented person is nearly extinct in public discourse. What's left is two mirror-image tribes, each convinced they're the rational ones, each using reason as a weapon rather than a compass, pointing it outward, never inward.

It's not a political problem. It's not even a cultural problem. It's a cognitive failure. And the worst part?

Most of you are proud of it.

Disgusting.

Where do you believe you fit in here?

 

[Chuz Life]

Most people are emotionally driven. Truth is secondary.

Seems so.

I think I'm from a different mold than that.

As soon as I discover a fact that challenges my views, I do my best to embrace it, and my views change accordingly.

 

[Dante]

Welcome to reality coupled with our current Constitution and Political System.

Sorry if you want to play Football, but this is a Baseball field and a Baseball game.

"our current Constitution?"

What is wrong with the US Constitution?

"Political System?"

I believe our political "system" is just fine. We are living through a moment in time -- a hiccup

Are you "mad?"


No need to answer that. It's rhetorical.

 

[Natural Citizen]

You don't actually care about being accurate, realistic. You care about your side winning. Those are not the same thing, and you've never once stopped to notice the difference.

You will defend a lie if it came from your camp. You will attack a truth if it came from theirs. You've outsourced your reasoning to your identity and called it conviction. You haven't had an original thought about reality in your entire life, just reactions, just reflexes, just the primate satisfaction of seeing the enemy hurt.

The uncomfortable fact is that most people don't have beliefs. They have loyalties dressed up as beliefs. Epistemology cosplay. You couldn't tell me how you know what you know, because you don't know; you were told, and it felt right because everyone around you nodded.

And the anger. As if the intensity of your feelings is evidence of your correctness. As if volume is argument. You're not passionate about truth; you're addicted to the war. Truth would actually end it. You don't want it to end. The genuinely reality-oriented person is nearly extinct in public discourse. What's left is two mirror-image tribes, each convinced they're the rational ones, each using reason as a weapon rather than a compass, pointing it outward, never inward.

It's not a political problem. It's not even a cultural problem. It's a cognitive failure. And the worst part?

Most of you are proud of it.

Disgusting.

Indeed.

It's a heck of a thing...

 

[martybegan]

"our current Constitution?"

What is wrong with the US Constitution?

"Political System?"

I believe our political "system" is just fine. We are living through a moment in time -- a hiccup

Are you "mad?"


No need to answer that. It's rhetorical.

This thread has the trappings of a rant against the "duopoly", or our binary political system.

Someone get out the RAID, Dainty has invaded this thread.

 

[Dante]

Why should I not care about my own Agenda? Only one side has to be magnanimous?

that is what you have always demanded of others?

Hmm...

People need to stop linking facts and truth. Facts are just that. truth is far more vague.

Okay Uncle Rudy

It may be cathartic to throw up your hands and say nothing is working and everything sucks, but that does nothing to fix things.

Mirror

 

[Dante]

the "duopoly", or our binary political system.

People like you can never, ever propose a better solution than the system we have been using.

POSIT ONE: And I'll knock it down like I knock down all other nonsense

 

[jc456]

I am found. just know that.

 

[justoffal]

You don't actually care about being accurate, realistic. You care about your side winning. Those are not the same thing, and you've never once stopped to notice the difference.

You will defend a lie if it came from your camp. You will attack a truth if it came from theirs. You've outsourced your reasoning to your identity and called it conviction. You haven't had an original thought about reality in your entire life, just reactions, just reflexes, just the primate satisfaction of seeing the enemy hurt.

The uncomfortable fact is that most people don't have beliefs. They have loyalties dressed up as beliefs. Epistemology cosplay. You couldn't tell me how you know what you know, because you don't know; you were told, and it felt right because everyone around you nodded.

And the anger. As if the intensity of your feelings is evidence of your correctness. As if volume is argument. You're not passionate about truth; you're addicted to the war. Truth would actually end it. You don't want it to end. The genuinely reality-oriented person is nearly extinct in public discourse. What's left is two mirror-image tribes, each convinced they're the rational ones, each using reason as a weapon rather than a compass, pointing it outward, never inward.

It's not a political problem. It's not even a cultural problem. It's a cognitive failure. And the worst part?

Most of you are proud of it.

Disgusting.

Good post

 

[jc456]

"our current Constitution?"

What is wrong with the US Constitution?

"Political System?"

I believe our political "system" is just fine. We are living through a moment in time -- a hiccup

Are you "mad?"


No need to answer that. It's rhetorical.