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[Gdjjr]

The American Dream

from the comments Bruce Newman 6 months ago Sweet baby jesus in swaddling clothes. He's the best goddamned songwriter in America people are people EVERYWHERE I can relate to the content in this...

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[eagle1462010]

 

[sparky]

I'm looking for opinions.....

I keep hearing 'make America great again' , while having being raised thinking it was always so.

What made America great?

Was there some historic point /event ?

Is there a particular characteristic , ideal , metric ,or identifying factor ?

What will keep America great would be a follow up

I realize i'm asking this in a political forum , but it's really an apolitical Q, for those that can handle it. And yes, there are some smarts here still, that haven't been thwarted

So please have at it & thx

~S~

What makes America great is you don't have to be born into wealth to become successful you can start from humble beginnings and still become a success it's not easy and not everyone does it but it's possible. The historic event for me WW2 the United States was the driving force in defeating Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan there were other countries involved in that but how long could England and Russia have lasted without the materials the U.S. was supplying them and while doing that we were also producing the arms and ammo to push Japan back across the Pacific.

I agree Blackhawk...

once upon a time America carried the torch of freedom and liberty around this rock with head held high.

but...are we that same people now?

~S~

 

[Gdjjr]

They called it "free market capitalism"

Who is "they"

 

[harmonica]

open borders will turn America into a 3rd world shithole

 

[blackhawk]

I'm looking for opinions.....

I keep hearing 'make America great again' , while having being raised thinking it was always so.

What made America great?

Was there some historic point /event ?

Is there a particular characteristic , ideal , metric ,or identifying factor ?

What will keep America great would be a follow up

I realize i'm asking this in a political forum , but it's really an apolitical Q, for those that can handle it. And yes, there are some smarts here still, that haven't been thwarted

So please have at it & thx

~S~

What makes America great is you don't have to be born into wealth to become successful you can start from humble beginnings and still become a success it's not easy and not everyone does it but it's possible. The historic event for me WW2 the United States was the driving force in defeating Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan there were other countries involved in that but how long could England and Russia have lasted without the materials the U.S. was supplying them and while doing that we were also producing the arms and ammo to push Japan back across the Pacific.

I agree Blackhawk...

once upon a time America carried the torch of freedom and liberty around this rock with head held high.

but...are we that same people now?

~S~

I think most are but the very vocal minority makes it seem otherwise.

 

[Gdjjr]

open borders will turn America into a 3rd world shithole

Only if you want it to-

 

[LA RAM FAN]

What made America great?

Individual liberty and limited government.

Something we have not had for DECADES now.

 

[lg325]

What makes America great all started with the revolution against British rule. A new type of Government was formed that at its time was a radicle idea. It was a government by We The People. That started a process of continuing change as the people changed .But the idea of government by the people has not changed as put down in our Constitution .After more then 200 years that radicle idea had been adopted around the world and is longed for by those who do not have it.

 

[Thunk]

What made America great?

Was there some historic point /event ?

Is there a particular characteristic , ideal , metric ,or identifying factor ?

What will keep America great would be a follow up

1. Our founding...after that WW2 and directly after that saw a great industrial and prosperity expansion.

2. We are the exception to the rule...the USA is an experiment that asks...can man govern himself? The rest of the world is kings and dictators...the people who govern in the USA derive their just power thru the consent of the governed.

3. Keeping with our founding principles will keep us great. America is great because America is good.

Limited government, good moral people, strong work ethic, and a proper education of our founding...we have almost lost all of those & we need to bring them back or our country will be doomed!

Waving Old Glory is giving the finger to kings and dictators. Betchya didn't know that. Seriously...that is OFFICIALLY what our flag stands for!

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

America is feeling the disillusion that was inevitable when they tried to make capitalism into a system of government.

Who did that when?

The business of America...is business. So said Coolidge~

Actually I'd say that our govt. has always been controlled by big business..been bought and paid for frequently.
But our system of Govt. is not an economic system. We can and have tweaked the Capitalist model to conform to our needs.

To the topic...America's greatness is in its continued existence--despite many challenges. The 20th century will always be the American century.

The 21st? Remains to be seen. Democracy is like a raft..your feet are always wet..but the raft is very hard to sink.

 

[harmonica]

I'm looking for opinions.....

I keep hearing 'make America great again' , while having being raised thinking it was always so.

What made America great?

Was there some historic point /event ?

Is there a particular characteristic , ideal , metric ,or identifying factor ?

What will keep America great would be a follow up

I realize i'm asking this in a political forum , but it's really an apolitical Q, for those that can handle it. And yes, there are some smarts here still, that haven't been thwarted

So please have at it & thx

~S~

What makes America great is you don't have to be born into wealth to become successful you can start from humble beginnings and still become a success it's not easy and not everyone does it but it's possible. The historic event for me WW2 the United States was the driving force in defeating Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan there were other countries involved in that but how long could England and Russia have lasted without the materials the U.S. was supplying them and while doing that we were also producing the arms and ammo to push Japan back across the Pacific.

.....we've been over this in the history forum---Germany was not going to defeat Russia with or without US help
...the OstFront was HUMONGOUS compared to the front the US was on

 

[LA RAM FAN]

America became great when we won our independence and became a constitutional republic. The very same Tories we defeated are still extant, having evolved from the Democrat party to the current socialist liberal progressive bastards who are still pining for the madness of King George III. We are still great until and unless we surrender to the NWO/OWG. God Bless America!

The only thing we pretty much surrendered to the NWO decades ago when the sheep let it get to the point where there is one different law for politicians than there is for us and presidents got away with any crime they want to commit knowing they always get off Scott free.

 

[Dr Grump]

I'm looking for opinions.....

I keep hearing 'make America great again' , while having being raised thinking it was always so.

What made America great?

Was there some historic point /event ?

Is there a particular characteristic , ideal , metric ,or identifying factor ?

What will keep America great would be a follow up

I realize i'm asking this in a political forum , but it's really an apolitical Q, for those that can handle it. And yes, there are some smarts here still, that haven't been thwarted

So please have at it & thx

~S~

I keep showing this, because Morgan Freeman tells Don Lemon about how the United States is the best country in the world..

Didn't see him say that once.

 

[Dr Grump]

Still a good one.

The bit I liked best was when he says that 'we inspired to intelligence we didn't belittle it". A lot of that goes on on this board. And I hate to sound partisan, but only one side of the political aisle that tends to belitte it.

 

[occupied]

They called it "free market capitalism"

Who is "they"

The "captains of industry" or as you call them these days "job creators". They will not allow anyone to rebuild the working class political base that actually used to make America great. Without it we will never be anything other than a plutocratic banana republic. Since it is now somehow socialism to fight for the working class in any way real greatness will forever elude us.

 

[Thunk]

History lesson.

Draw a line on a sheet of paper. On the left side of that line is 100% gov't control over you...on the right side is 0% gov't control over you.

100% gov't control is communism, socialism, marxism, totalitarianism (all the isms).

0% gov't control is anarchy...no law, no police, no military, no currency, no public roads or schools (you only "own" something if you can defend it by force).

Our founding fathers saw gov't as a necessary evil. We wanted to be as close to anarchy as possible...but still have social order, rule of law, and property ownership.

 

[Gdjjr]

The "captains of industry" or as you call them these days "job creators"

I don't remember calling anyone anything in that regard- it is true that industry creates jobs- crony capitalism funds them- think the never ending wars, i.e., the "green energy" plans, etc- ALL wars of aggression- the wars on citizens at home and abroad- thus the MIC- it has lots of jobs, DEA for instance, the CIA is a big spender too- bought and paid for restrictions to insure the ensurance of paying to play- that isn't really capitalism- the funds derived are from capitalist endeavors, so there is validity in using the word- however, not as you implied that it became a form or gov't by them-

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

They called it "free market capitalism"

Who is "they"

The "captains of industry" or as you call them these days "job creators". They will not allow anyone to rebuild the working class political base that actually used to make America great. Without it we will never be anything other than a plutocratic banana republic. Since it is now somehow socialism to fight for the working class in any way real greatness will forever elude us.

It has always been considered socialism to aid the workers. Most unions were Socialist.....

Socialism is not intrinsically bad--it's like salt..you need a little..but too much ruins the dish.

 

[Gdjjr]

It has always been considered socialism to aid the workers

While ignoring fed jobs- Social Security, Medicare, Corporate Welfare, Green Energy Subsidy's, mandates that compromise Individual effort- Public Education-