How Trump may be able to swing the deal for Greenland in my opinion, it is not far-fetched: Greenlandic prime minister ‘ready’ to talk with Trump

And what if China (who wants a small piece of Arctic either) suggest them a better deal?


then its in the benefit of the U.S. to make a BETTER deal. Probably this is why Trump is being pro active about it. The trend is that China is expanding its influence around the globe. They already control both ends of the Panama canal and have bridges that cross it. They could stop ship traffic if they so chose. Why wait around until after the fact with Greenland. Denmark has done WHAT? with that place in the last 50 years? how much have the livelyhoods of those people benefited in that time?
 
Initially i thought it was totally ridiculous, but am warming to the idea trump may well indeed buy Greenland.. lol.

But also Greenland can just give out big contracts to mine their country they dont need to sell it..

To buy a country these days you are talking trillions..


Could be Trump offering to buy it completely is just the max offer from a negotiation standpoint. Its not a bad move even if we end up with something less than that.
 
Says the people who do not own it.

Greenlanders can decide for themselves! Or do you want to destroy THEIR democracy too?
In what world do you slither?

Greenland is Not For Sale
 
then its in the benefit of the U.S. to make a BETTER deal.
Like this?
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Or something else?
Probably this is why Trump is being pro active about it. The trend is that China is expanding its influence around the globe. They already control both ends of the Panama canal and have bridges that cross it. They could stop ship traffic if they so chose. Why wait around until after the fact with Greenland. Denmark has done WHAT? with that place in the last 50 years? how much have the livelyhoods of those people benefited in that time?
Yes. They can do it. And they can try to put some mercenaries on the board either. To make their deal suggestion more persuasive.
 
Ok, Canadian. Are you ready to become American?
Trump won't be taking over Canada.

All the U.S has to do is wait a couple of decades and Canada will be insolvent. Certain Ontario and Quebec should be by that point.

Police States aren't cheap just ask the old Soviet Union...
 
In what world do you slither?

Greenland is Not For Sale
Or, may be, China already suggested more.
Anyway, what can Denmark or the whole EU can do to prove those loud words?
 
This is for all the "BUH-BUH-BUHT TRUMP NEVER THREATENED VIOLENCE!" fascist-fluffers here.



I especially liked the fascist-fluffer who declared that opposing a US imperialist land grab meant I was "supporting European colonialism". That was an especially insane defense of fascism.
 
cuckoo

Canada has no interest in being a part of the USA and neither does Greenland.
But, may be, the USA have the interest to make Canada and Greenland their territories.

And anyway, its just your words. May be, Canadians and Greenlandians (at least some of them) are interested.
 
Who knows.

May be the USA have no couple of decades.


Freedom isn't free either.

If what the Soviet Union had from the 1950s-1990s was "freedom", then I may not understand the definition of words very well.
 
Much, much more than the USA has done for its native peoples. So why should Greenland sign up for that abuse?
For US money. Or for the protection. Who else can protect them from the dirty Chinese money and/or little green men?
 
This particular assertion from Trump gained global attention and I was considering it after initially thinking that perhaps Trump was changing the channel because of campaign promises he wouldn't deliver. Greenland would provide major benefits to America from a National Security standpoint and economic security.

Now, Denmark knows that Greenland has plenty of resources, however, they don't have the economy nor the means to extract and maximize the benefit of these resources. America does, and they will spend the money to extract and utilize.

Greenland is a critical point to protect from foreign invaders and would be the perfect location for America to reach a multitude of land masses around the globe to defend their NATO partners.

Greenland is also the shortest route to Europe over water. This would provide excellent cross water trade as well as a strategic location for America to build bases, ports and other useful assets in times of war. War which Europe realizes now is closer than they had ever believed just a few years ago.

What would it cost America to purchase it?

Well, I just throw out ideas but it's a start but consider how much money the U.S has spent on foolish endeavours and the price is quite reasonable.

The population of Greenland is only about 56,000 people or so, they should be allowed to vote in a transparent referendum on the citizenship question "would you like to become American"?. If the vote passed and there were people who didn't want to be American, than maybe the Danes would offer them citizenship and they could move, I don't know. Elections speak though.

If America offered $25,000 in U.S funds to every citizen, American dollars which all of these citizens would now receive as newly minted Americans; it would only cost the U.S $1.4B. You would decrease that significantly if say, you offered that amount to only adults. Allow say, $10,000 for minors to be held in trust. Trump could probably offer far less if the sentiment is as some say that many Greenlanders welcome being Americans so you could offer only $5,000 and they would be more willing to vote but I don't have scientist data to know and human behaviour is unique.

You then offer Denmark say $2-3B and more importantly, "special trade status" with America in which any domestic product of Denmark can be sold in the U.S with 0% tariff for 50 years. That would allow a generation of Denmark companies and entrepreneurs to realize their dreams through hard work and/or ingenuity and build closer relations with the Danes in the process. A win/win for NATO, Greenland, Denmark, Europe and America.

And in terms of Denmarks opinion of Greenland, see the quote below directly from Danish PM Frederiksen. If she believes this, than Greenland should be able to chart their own destiny:

------When it became clear that Trump was serious, Danish PM Frederiksen said: 'Greenland is not for sale. Greenland is not Danish. Greenland is Greenlandic.'-----


Greenlandic Prime Minister Múte Egede said he is “ready” to talk with President-elect Trump, who has recently expressed ambitions for the U.S. to acquire Greenland, the world’s largest island.


Egede was asked during a press conference in Copenhagen on Friday if he was in touch with the president-elect. He said no but added that “we are ready to talk.”
I presume you are pulling the piss...

Greenland Natural Resources is valued in the Trillions...

Denmark today give over $700m a year to Greenland...


If you offered $250k per person they still would tell you fuck off you arrogant prick....

I don't think you know what Danish Citizenship give them... Free University, Free Healthcare,....

On top of that, Look at Puerto Rico, that's how America treats new states...
 
If what the Soviet Union had from the 1950s-1990s was "freedom", then I may not understand the definition of words very well.
There are different understanding of this word, but I told about Canadian/America "freedom". It isn't free.
 
There are different understanding of this word, but I told about Canadian/America "freedom". It isn't free.
We definitely have our issues in Canada as does the U.S. Still not similar to the old Soviet system
 
Denmark doesn't have a say here.

Its really up to the Greenlandites on whether they will throw off the chains of European colonialists.

Hard to believe, but the libs suddenly think colonialism is a great idea.
So you think they want to swap on from being a European Colony to an American Colony...

They only have to look at Puerto Rico and go no thanks...
 
It's more like many US states are interested in joining Canada, as Canada lacks the right-wing fascism that came with Trump.
But who said, that "right-wing fascism" is interested in Canadian population, not in just Candian territory and Canadian resources?
 
So you think they want to swap on from being a European Colony to an American Colony...

They only have to look at Puerto Rico and go no thanks...
Or, may be they won't have a lot of choice. The EU can't defend Greenland neither from Americans, nor from Chinese+Russians.
 
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