Your Extinction.

Elsewhere, I have been seeing some crap about global warming. Global warming is a reality. And it is being caused by humans. It's hard to tell if those who deny it are stupid or evil. I have even heard the CEO of EXXON admit that global warming was a reality. Even the Pentagon recognizes it as a threat. And you would have to be pretty stupid or evil to go against what around 98% of the scientists say.

Also, CO2 has been measured to be on the increase since the beginning of the industrial revolution. Coincidence? I don't think so. Another point is that all the volcanoes on Earth release around 200 million tons of CO2 into the biosphere each year. The activities of humans are responsible for around 32.3 BILLION tons of CO2 each year. Also, global warming is getting exponentially worse. Which means that the hotter things get, the faster they will get even hotter.

What all this means is that if you are planning on living past about the year 2050, make other plans. The chief cause of your fast approaching extinction isn't CO2. (Which is bad enough) It is methane. Methane is around 86 times more potent of a greenhouse gas than CO2. And like CO2, the rate at which it is being released is also increasing. I will show you a graph showing the rate at which it is increasing. Incredibly, despite all the evaporating methane hydrate ice in the oceans or that being released from thawing tundra, about 60% of what is shown is being caused by human activities. I will also show you what other CO2 graphs that I have. For the deniers, continue to deny at your own peril.

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Global warming is a reality, but it probably hasn't been caused by humans.
However it's hardly the main priority.
Too many people, too few resources and food and clean water, antibiotics not working, and all kinds of other stuff should be way higher than something that happens every 100,000 years or so in the Milankovich cycles.
 
Global warming is a reality, but it probably hasn't been caused by humans.
However it's hardly the main priority.
Too many people, too few resources and food and clean water, antibiotics not working, and all kinds of other stuff should be way higher than something that happens every 100,000 years or so in the Milankovich cycles.

It is unequivocal that human influence has warmed the atmosphere, ocean and land. Widespread and rapid
changes in the atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere and biosphere have occurred.


IPCC's AR6, Working Group I, "The Physical Science Basis", "Summary for Policy Makers", pg 4, para A1
 
Global warming is caused by the Sun (over 99%). We are entering a phase where the Sun will cool the Earth.

What idiot told you that. The sun's output is the same. Our position to it is the same. At least there isn't any difference that would be noticeable. Over long periods of time, the Earth's axis can shift a bit. But that has nothing to do with the global warming that is going on.
 
It is unequivocal that human influence has warmed the atmosphere, ocean and land. Widespread and rapid
changes in the atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere and biosphere have occurred.


IPCC's AR6, Working Group I, "The Physical Science Basis", "Summary for Policy Makers", pg 4, para A1

So, you believe everything you read.

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Are you telling me that 120,000 years ago was due to human influence too?
 
The U.S. has made great strides to reduce pollution AND CO2.... if it is really the cause of the 1 deg. temperature rise over the last 100 years.

It's time for countries like China, India and European nations to follow suit, before the U.S. is required to tank it's economy any more. Once they do the same, we can talk about this some more, other wise any efforts we do unilaterally are a complete waste of time, and allows China to become the dominant world power.

It doesn't matter what other countries do. WE need to change. The rest of the world can do what it is doing. Fucking off and dying. At least we can say we did something. Also, I know what to do about a lot of the pollution coming from places like China, India, mexico, etc. STOP HAVING THEM MAKE THE PRODUCTS WE USE! It would also help reduce the child labor that goes on in those countries. Americans can have more meaningful employment than flipping each other's burgers and becoming fatter as a country. It would help eliminate all the energy that is required, and the pollution caused by, shipping things from other countries. The U.S. wouldn't be going hundreds of billions deeper into debt each year from the trade imbalance with those countries.
 
"Global warming" is nothing more than fake science devised by politically-motivated hacks, and spoon-fed to you ignorant, frightened people for the purpose of maintaining control over you.

Do you have to practice to say such stupid things? Or does it come naturally.
 
The problem with the climate change issue is thst it is clesrly about money for many. If it weren't, and they believed our lives were at stake, they would loudly scream at China, India et al and demand boycotts of corporations who shift their production there. Instead we see some praising them even as they shamelessly expand their coal sources.

Extinction will just be an end result of the evil of capitalism.
 
We probably won't die out by then, but civilization will have likely collapsed or face significant peril in most of the industrialized world.

There's too much focus on global climate change. The big picture problem is ecological overshoot, of which climate change is one of many devastating consequences. Overuse of natural resources like water, forests, marine life, etc is another.

We probably would have been fine if we had somehow decided back in the 1950s that economic growth wasn't all that necessary and kept a lid on the human population at or around 2 billion or so. But we now have 8 billion people who use a scorecard measured in property/land ownership and increases in output and consumption, and probably 85% of the population desires a standard much higher than what they already have. The other 15% wants to maintain and even augment their status as well. It's unsustainable.

Our current economic situation is actually not entirely a bad analog for a much more dire situation that is coming. Consider the fact that now, in 2023, we have an inflation problem, and a debt problem. Inflation is sticky and difficult to bring down - why? Because there are way, way, wayyyy too many dollars chasing too few goods. We thought fixing the supply chains would do the trick, but as it turns out, we overproduced currency and we are now overconsuming. The only way this can be fixed is a recession - a kind of mini version of a collapse, if you will. Well that's what will happen in the future, but instead of running out of fiat currency, we're going to run out of things that a central bank can't regenerate: water, food, habitat.

The scary part is that people will gradually come to this realization. And when they do realize the increased scarcity, the likely result will be warfare on a very large scale.

I agree with what you say. Apparently you are one of the 2%. You might find my thread "Human Pollution" interesting as well.

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If everything you buy is made in this country, then what are you using for a computer ... since all the parts are made overseas?

Yes. It sucks ass that I am basically forced to buy things made overseas. I wish it wasn't that way.
 
Global warming is a reality, but it probably hasn't been caused by humans.
However it's hardly the main priority.
Too many people, too few resources and food and clean water, antibiotics not working, and all kinds of other stuff should be way higher than something that happens every 100,000 years or so in the Milankovich cycles.

It is definitely caused by humans.
 
So ... you're only a slaver when you find it convenient to be?

How noble and magnanimous of you. You truly are a better human being than the rest of us.

We are not fit to touch the hem of your garment.
Would you be happy if I lived in a cave and had no computer? If that was the case, I wouldn't be able to tell people like you what fools you are.
 
If it were really a problem, why didn't we change over to nuclear energy? A meltdown or two is trivial compared to the entire world melting.

Why isn't the entire world clamoring for nuclear energy?
 

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