You have to pay for ObamaCare? Oh...

[NumburrOne]

Out of 1.1 million assumed obamacare entrants...
Only 5 percent have paid premium..
Being reported on fox news...

 

[Mad_Cabbie]

No, It's free.

(?)

Did you have a point?

 

[S.J.]

The ones who have to pay for it are the young, healthy, people who were stupid enough to put Obama in office. For them it will be a hard lesson about socialism.

 

[NumburrOne]

No, It's free.

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Did you have a point?

"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous
by letting the American Government
take care of him;
better take a closer look at the American Indian." - Henry Ford

my point is same as sj's..
I've used this quote many times...
and I drive a ford...

 

[LoneLaugher]

Yes. Americans are simply a bunch of idiots. We are too stupid to understand that when we sign up to buy something from Aetna or United Health or Blue Cross, we will have to pay some money.

After all, we get goods and services from private corporations without paying for them all the time. Right? I mean.....I am shocked.....shocked I tell you....every time my credit card statement comes. I never thought I'd have to pay for the stuff I agreed to pay for!

 

[dblack]

Yes. Americans are simply a bunch of idiots. We are too stupid to understand that when we sign up to buy something from Aetna or United Health or Blue Cross, we will have to pay some money.

After all, we get goods and services from private corporations without paying for them all the time. Right? I mean.....I am shocked.....shocked I tell you....every time my credit card statement comes. I never thought I'd have to pay for the stuff I agreed to pay for!

We didn't "agree" to pay for it. You still don't get that whole mandate thing do you?

 

[Mac1958]

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The sad part is what's going to happen when Medicaid cases flood doctor's offices and they're told the doc isn't accepting their type of plan. The reimbursements are far too low and the red tape is too high.

It's not going to be funny, it's going to be a serious problem.

.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Yes. Americans are simply a bunch of idiots. We are too stupid to understand that when we sign up to buy something from Aetna or United Health or Blue Cross, we will have to pay some money.

After all, we get goods and services from private corporations without paying for them all the time. Right? I mean.....I am shocked.....shocked I tell you....every time my credit card statement comes. I never thought I'd have to pay for the stuff I agreed to pay for!

We didn't "agree" to pay for it. You still don't get that whole mandate thing do you?

Not the point that the OP was trying to make, is it? Try to keep up. Those who signed up agreed to pay...and they know that they are supposed to pay.

And the whole mandate thing is a nutter idea. I prefer to mandate paying for health care the same way we mandate paying for our military.

 

[LoneLaugher]

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The sad part is what's going to happen when Medicaid cases flood doctor's offices and they're told the doc isn't accepting their type of plan. The reimbursements are far too low and the red tape is too high.

It's not going to be funny, it's going to be a serious problem.

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Doctors likely to accept new Medicaid patients as coverage expands

http://www.medicare.com/medicaid/5-myths-of-medicaid.html

 

[NumburrOne]

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The sad part is what's going to happen when Medicaid cases flood doctor's offices and they're told the doc isn't accepting their type of plan. The reimbursements are far too low and the red tape is too high.

It's not going to be funny, it's going to be a serious problem.

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you got that right, I did a thread on the influx of mental illness patients on medicare under the new Obama provisions.... if you take that 1.1 million who have applied and figure as the analyst are 5 to 10 percent have paid, the other 90 is new medicaire enrollments...
the numbers will amaze when Obama releases them..

 

[Mac1958]

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The sad part is what's going to happen when Medicaid cases flood doctor's offices and they're told the doc isn't accepting their type of plan. The reimbursements are far too low and the red tape is too high.

It's not going to be funny, it's going to be a serious problem.

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you got that right, I did a thread on the influx of mental illness patients on medicare under the new Obama provisions.... if you take that 1.1 million who have applied and figure as the analyst are 5 to 10 percent have paid, the other 90 is new medicaire enrollments...
the numbers will amaze when Obama releases them..

Yup. In their financials, providers budget a specific amount of Medicare, Medicaid and other low-reimbursement patients they can take. When they reach that number, they simply stop taking new patients. Ask any senior who has had difficulty finding a doc and ended up having to travel longer distances to access one. And that was BEFORE the ACA.

The ACA increases reimbursements by (I think) about 33% - which is still significantly below their regular reimbursements - and that will allow them to raise their ceiling somewhat. But the same rule will apply: When they hit that ceiling, that's it.

That's why you're already seeing providers go to private-pay boutique practices where they can just opt out of the whole thing. Certainly makes sense. But the apologists will ignore all of this because they feel the ACA is "best" for the "collective". A little collateral damage never hurt anyone.

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[LoneLaugher]

Debunking the anti-Obamacare camp's attack on Medicaid - latimes.com


http://theincidentaleconomist.com/wordpress/medicaid-and-access/

 

[Old Rocks]

Go to a full Universal Single Payer System like that of Canada. Paid for out of an increase in income taxes, one that goes all the way to the top, no cutoff as in Social Security.

 

[NumburrOne]

Go to a full Universal Single Payer System like that of Canada. Paid for out of an increase in income taxes, one that goes all the way to the top, no cutoff as in Social Security.

that's the only truly acceptable viable position...

 

[Mac1958]

Go to a full Universal Single Payer System like that of Canada. Paid for out of an increase in income taxes, one that goes all the way to the top, no cutoff as in Social Security.

I'm not for this type of plan, but I'd prefer it to this ACA beast.

The Democrats could have at least opened a serious national dialogue on Single Payer, but they did not. Instead, they rushed and pushed through this hideous Frankenstein's monster by the barest of margins. And now, liberals are having to defend it for political reasons. They can't point at Romneycare, they voted for the ACA. It's all theirs.

I'd love to have been a fly on the wall when Reid and Pelosi and gang decided they didn't have the guts to make Single Payer a national conversation.

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[LoneLaugher]

Go to a full Universal Single Payer System like that of Canada. Paid for out of an increase in income taxes, one that goes all the way to the top, no cutoff as in Social Security.

that's the only truly acceptable viable position...

Careful......you will cause some people to get all twisted.

 

[SwimExpert]

Go to a full Universal Single Payer System like that of Canada. Paid for out of an increase in income taxes, one that goes all the way to the top, no cutoff as in Social Security.

Or.....People could just pay for their own selves. Why should I pay higher taxes just to pay for someone else's health care?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Go to a full Universal Single Payer System like that of Canada. Paid for out of an increase in income taxes, one that goes all the way to the top, no cutoff as in Social Security.

Or.....People could just pay for their own selves. Why should I pay higher taxes just to pay for someone else's health care?

We got us a high level thinker here. He appears to have faith.

 

[Old Rocks]

Go to a full Universal Single Payer System like that of Canada. Paid for out of an increase in income taxes, one that goes all the way to the top, no cutoff as in Social Security.

Or.....People could just pay for their own selves. Why should I pay higher taxes just to pay for someone else's health care?

Why don't you just move to Somalia and avoid paying taxes at all? Because if you move to any of the civilised nations, your taxes will go up by a good amount.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

"If you like your plan, you can keep it. Period" -- Biggest Lie in American History