You go Girl! Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Plans Bill to Boost Top Individual Tax Rate to 59%

[Bleipriester]

The rich ***** scream "theft", so don´t just take 59 %, take it all, leave a food stamp.

If the federal tax rate was 0%, the federal government would collect 0 dollars. If the federal tax rate was 100%, the government would still collect 0 dollars, because who would be stupid enough to create wealth?

Then don´t scream "theft" while the hard working people pay up.

That's our point though. Every time you try and tax the rich, you end up taxing the poor. So *YOU* don't scream theft, when *YOU* end up paying the bill.

Look if that is true (it isn´t), we don´t need the rich anymore. We tax the poor anyway, if rich refuse to pay up they should leave indeed, their money should be confiscated. But I think that the whole story is a hoax. You know US law? You have to pay up anyway, no matter where you got to. They´d have to give up on their citizenship. Also, not every rich is this unpatriotic.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Look if that is true (it isn´t), we don´t need the rich anymore. We tax the poor anyway, if rich refuse to pay up they should leave indeed, their money should be confiscated.

Hitler would have been so proud of you.

If we took all the poor in this country, put them on an island somewhere, not only would they never be missed, it would benefit society greatly.

If we took all the rich in this country, put them on an island somewhere, the country would collapse.

Next time you need a job, ask a homeless man for one.

 

[jillian]

Bloomberg ^ | November 15, 2019

No excerpt from Bloomberg allowed, story here. She wants a 59% top income tax rate and to tax unrealized capital gains yearly, including real estate and business holdings.

REMEMBER VOTE DEMONRAT SO YOU CAN GO BROKE AND HAVE TO GIVE YOUR HOUSE TO AN ILLEGAL INVADER, OR MUSLIM TERRORIST!

She’s one member of Congress.
You have Steve king. You really shouldn’t comment on anyone else

 

[Bleipriester]

The rich ***** scream "theft", so don´t just take 59 %, take it all, leave a food stamp.

You don't get it.

The rich will simply move their money elsewhere. Again, France tried this, and there was a mass exodus from the country. You are just going to have them move their wealthy out of the country. Just like Venezuela, or Cuba, or any other country that has tried it.

And it is theft. It just is. Taking something that other people rightfully earned, when it is not yours.... is theft. Just like if I climbed into your car and drove off... it is theft.

Even if you deny that, it doesn't change the fact that your system doesn't work.

The problem with your theorie is that if the rich move their money abroad when taxed, we don´t need them anyway. Got it? You have a government, it needs money.
All get taxed, but it is only theft when it is the rich...

You know who else said that? The French, and the result was they had to jack up taxes even higher on the poor and middle class, which led to the yellow vest protests.


You know who else said that? Venezuela, and the result was nation wide power outages, food shortages, and now over 4 million refugees.
Refugees and migrants from Venezuela top 4 million: UNHCR and IOM

You know who else said that? Cuba, and they went from being a first world economy, to being a third world economy, where average people didn't even have access to Aspirin.

You know who else said that? North Korea, which is why we have satellite photos of mass graves, and smuggled photos of N.Korean soldiers eating grass.

You say that now.... now while under our system we enjoy the products services and life style that the rich being here, create.

But every country that has ever said "We don't need them" has ended up in ruins.

Yeah we do. And without them, you are going to end up being drastically higher taxes than you do right now, and / or see a national decline in the standard of living.

1. The French were given unknown banker Macron after they destroyed Fillon:
François Fillon to correct France´s sick policies of slavishly supporting terrorism and iron curtain

2. Venezuela was working until US intervention using the upper class opposition, creating sanctions, econmic boycott, blockade and terror. Plus, everyone crossing the border is counted as "refugee".

Nah, you are full of crap. Both of those responses are just flat out lies. I'm not going to argue with a liar.

Typical fat ass response.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

that Cortex is a total moron

I can't believe she was elected....by the ignoramus in NY....well I can lol....

total madness in NY .....so sad what that place has become....

And if she has her way, NYC would outlaw fossil fuel. I don't know why. We only have 11 years more to live on this planet.

 

[francoHFW]

Wherever they get taxed less, maybe to other countries out of the reach of greedy liberals. Just like the yacht tax decimated the American yacht industry because the rich simply bought foreign built yachts, the wealthy will not sit still and let you or anyone take their wealth.

Liberals never seem to realize that human nature always makes tax schemes generate less than they're projected to, because people protect what they've earned.

Where are the rich going to move their monies?

Anywhere. Doesn't matter where. Anywhere would be better, than being under the tax system that AOC just proposed. Canada, UK, Australia, Germany, Finland even. Anywhere.

A wealth tax, will make anywhere in the entire world, preferable to here. If I have $200 Million to spend on a vacation home.... that home in the US is going to be taxed, and elsewhere it will not. I'm not talking property tax, that everyone pays... but a tax on the unrealized capital gain. No where else does that, although France tried it and repealed it because it was a huge failure.

So anywhere else, is going to be preferable to here, under AOC's system.

The Rich are not going anywhere and there will still be plenty of loopholes. But there will be enough -also taxing giant corporations, to give us less inequality and more upward Mobility again...

How so, you ******* think giving more money to the government will make you rich?

Yeah, this is actually the part, that is most baffling to me.

You go and you look at government, and what do they do? They give money to all their buddies, all their special interest groups, all their political backers. You look at the 2009 stimulus package, billions in dollars given to the Unions for example. Did you see Union employees getting that money? You see GM auto workers, walking out with hundreds of thousands of dollars?

No, of course not. It went to the fat cat union bosses, the people who supported Obama's campaign. You didn't see a dollar going to the workers. Not a even a buck.

You see billions spent on Cash for Clunkers, and who got that money? The fat car company executives that cashed in. Even the trade ins, didn't really go to the poor, but rather some of the richest people, trading in their H1 hummer for a H2 hummer, which qualified under the program.



But the way you see these tax bigots react every time the tax rate is hiked or cut... you would think they had been hiding by the mail box, waiting for their big check to come in from government. Like every tax hike, they are moving out of their one-room apartment or something. As if a tax hike means, they'll magically collect a middle class income. Fools. All of them are fools.

Sorry you missed the last 30 years listening to propaganda, everything you say is wrong LOL, we need to invest in America and Americans again like other countries do. Only propaganda makes this possible. The GOP is the swamp and a long-running disaster for the country. Propaganda is scary the way you people act.....

 

[Bleipriester]

Look if that is true (it isn´t), we don´t need the rich anymore. We tax the poor anyway, if rich refuse to pay up they should leave indeed, their money should be confiscated.

Hitler would have been so proud of you.

If we took all the poor in this country, put them on an island somewhere, not only would they never be missed, it would benefit society greatly.

If we took all the rich in this country, put them on an island somewhere, the country would collapse.

Next time you need a job, ask a homeless man for one.

Hitler was funded by the private companies. He maintained market economy. No idea where you have your nonsense from.
And without the rich the poor would not be poor. People are poor in the US because they get crappy jobs. There is no need for crappy jobs.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Wherever they get taxed less, maybe to other countries out of the reach of greedy liberals. Just like the yacht tax decimated the American yacht industry because the rich simply bought foreign built yachts, the wealthy will not sit still and let you or anyone take their wealth.

Liberals never seem to realize that human nature always makes tax schemes generate less than they're projected to, because people protect what they've earned.

Where are the rich going to move their monies?

Anywhere. Doesn't matter where. Anywhere would be better, than being under the tax system that AOC just proposed. Canada, UK, Australia, Germany, Finland even. Anywhere.

A wealth tax, will make anywhere in the entire world, preferable to here. If I have $200 Million to spend on a vacation home.... that home in the US is going to be taxed, and elsewhere it will not. I'm not talking property tax, that everyone pays... but a tax on the unrealized capital gain. No where else does that, although France tried it and repealed it because it was a huge failure.

So anywhere else, is going to be preferable to here, under AOC's system.

The Rich are not going anywhere and there will still be plenty of loopholes. But there will be enough -also taxing giant corporations, to give us less inequality and more upward Mobility again...

How so, you ******* think giving more money to the government will make you rich?

Yeah, this is actually the part, that is most baffling to me.

You go and you look at government, and what do they do? They give money to all their buddies, all their special interest groups, all their political backers. You look at the 2009 stimulus package, billions in dollars given to the Unions for example. Did you see Union employees getting that money? You see GM auto workers, walking out with hundreds of thousands of dollars?

No, of course not. It went to the fat cat union bosses, the people who supported Obama's campaign. You didn't see a dollar going to the workers. Not a even a buck.

You see billions spent on Cash for Clunkers, and who got that money? The fat car company executives that cashed in. Even the trade ins, didn't really go to the poor, but rather some of the richest people, trading in their H1 hummer for a H2 hummer, which qualified under the program.



But the way you see these tax bigots react every time the tax rate is hiked or cut... you would think they had been hiding by the mail box, waiting for their big check to come in from government. Like every tax hike, they are moving out of their one-room apartment or something. As if a tax hike means, they'll magically collect a middle class income. Fools. All of them are fools.

It's what they've been brainwashed to believe. If you take more from the rich, it goes to government. Yes, some may go to social programs, but that only benefits likely Democrat voters.

Government not only spends all the money you give them, but takes loans out to spend money we don't have. Those are the wrong people to give money to.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Look if that is true (it isn´t), we don´t need the rich anymore. We tax the poor anyway, if rich refuse to pay up they should leave indeed, their money should be confiscated.

Hitler would have been so proud of you.

If we took all the poor in this country, put them on an island somewhere, not only would they never be missed, it would benefit society greatly.

If we took all the rich in this country, put them on an island somewhere, the country would collapse.

Next time you need a job, ask a homeless man for one.

Hitler was funded by the private companies. He maintained market economy. No idea where you have your nonsense from.
And without the rich the poor would not be poor. People are poor in the US because they get crappy jobs. There is no need for crappy jobs.

My reference was to your Nazi comment we should remove Americans from the country and take their money like an authoritarian state.

The only people responsible for the poor are the poor themselves. Rich people don't make poor people. And if we took every dime away from rich people today, it won't help the poor one bit.

It reminds me of when I was a child in the 60's, and we were driving through a poor part of town. As I looked on, I told my father I wished I had a million dollars, because I would give it to those people so they didn't have to live that way. My father smiled at my comment and said "Son, you could give each and every one of these people a million dollars, and given enough time, they will be right back here again."

Not everybody is capable of managing money. Books have been written about lottery winners and how the money ruined their lives, and put them in massive debt. I've seen companies close down because the owner handed the business to his kid or kids, and they just spent the money and ran it to the ground.

 

[Winco]

SO YOU CAN GO BROKE AND HAVE TO GIVE YOUR HOUSE TO AN ILLEGAL INVADER, OR MUSLIM TERRORIST!

Anyone posting here make $10 Million per year?

If I made $10 Million in a year, I wonder if I could survive on only $4.1 Million, or would I be Broke?
Sure, that's a lot to pay, but I KNOW I'd still be ok with ONLY $4.1 Million.

I'm sure 99-100% of the posters here on this site have yet to earn $10 Million or even $4.1 Million in their
entire working career.

Bottom line, Hoarding money by not spending or shipping money into offshore accounts, Is NOT good for those of us in America.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If I made $10 Million in a year, I wonder if I could survive on only $4.1 Million, or would I be Broke?
Sure, that's a lot to pay, but I KNOW I'd still be ok with ONLY $4.1 Million.

If you made 10 million a year, and the commies instituted this tax plan, that's the last year you'd make 10 mil. You'd quit investing your money and taking the risks to make that kind of profit.

 

[skye]

I honestly can't believe...that some of you can take Cortex seriously....

I simply can't

This is not even a funny joke.....

you are totally crazy

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I honestly can't believe...that some of you can take Cortex seriously....

I simply can't

This is not even a funny joke.....

you are totally crazy

Of course we don't take her seriously, but it's fun to discuss this mentality of government officials who don't accept they live in a free society, and instead, want a government society.

 

[skye]

I honestly can't believe...that some of you can take Cortex seriously....

I simply can't

This is not even a funny joke.....

you are totally crazy

Of course we don't take her seriously, but it's fun to discuss this mentality of government officials who don't accept they live in a free society, and instead, want a government society.

yeah....Cortex is another piece of.....you know what....not even a funny piece of you know what...yawn

 

[francoHFW]

Where are the rich going to move their monies?

Anywhere. Doesn't matter where. Anywhere would be better, than being under the tax system that AOC just proposed. Canada, UK, Australia, Germany, Finland even. Anywhere.

A wealth tax, will make anywhere in the entire world, preferable to here. If I have $200 Million to spend on a vacation home.... that home in the US is going to be taxed, and elsewhere it will not. I'm not talking property tax, that everyone pays... but a tax on the unrealized capital gain. No where else does that, although France tried it and repealed it because it was a huge failure.

So anywhere else, is going to be preferable to here, under AOC's system.

The Rich are not going anywhere and there will still be plenty of loopholes. But there will be enough -also taxing giant corporations, to give us less inequality and more upward Mobility again...

How so, you ******* think giving more money to the government will make you rich?

Yeah, this is actually the part, that is most baffling to me.

You go and you look at government, and what do they do? They give money to all their buddies, all their special interest groups, all their political backers. You look at the 2009 stimulus package, billions in dollars given to the Unions for example. Did you see Union employees getting that money? You see GM auto workers, walking out with hundreds of thousands of dollars?

No, of course not. It went to the fat cat union bosses, the people who supported Obama's campaign. You didn't see a dollar going to the workers. Not a even a buck.

You see billions spent on Cash for Clunkers, and who got that money? The fat car company executives that cashed in. Even the trade ins, didn't really go to the poor, but rather some of the richest people, trading in their H1 hummer for a H2 hummer, which qualified under the program.



But the way you see these tax bigots react every time the tax rate is hiked or cut... you would think they had been hiding by the mail box, waiting for their big check to come in from government. Like every tax hike, they are moving out of their one-room apartment or something. As if a tax hike means, they'll magically collect a middle class income. Fools. All of them are fools.

It's what they've been brainwashed to believe. If you take more from the rich, it goes to government. Yes, some may go to social programs, but that only benefits likely Democrat voters.

Government not only spends all the money you give them, but takes loans out to spend money we don't have. Those are the wrong people to give money to.

White Republicans are just as liable as white Democrats to use social programs. So are you using code for minorities? Republicans are the ones running up the debt for no good reason. Obama averted another depression with 8 trillion in debt.... No most Republican voters don't even know it happened. Unbelievable

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Bloomberg ^ | November 15, 2019

No excerpt from Bloomberg allowed, story here. She wants a 59% top income tax rate and to tax unrealized capital gains yearly, including real estate and business holdings.

REMEMBER VOTE DEMONRAT SO YOU CAN GO BROKE AND HAVE TO GIVE YOUR HOUSE TO AN ILLEGAL INVADER, OR MUSLIM TERRORIST!

That ***** knows what she is doing
Long overdue

Also tax Capital Gains at the same rate as personal income

She’s an imbecile and so is anybody who supports her

 

[francoHFW]

Look if that is true (it isn´t), we don´t need the rich anymore. We tax the poor anyway, if rich refuse to pay up they should leave indeed, their money should be confiscated.

Hitler would have been so proud of you.

If we took all the poor in this country, put them on an island somewhere, not only would they never be missed, it would benefit society greatly.

If we took all the rich in this country, put them on an island somewhere, the country would collapse.

Next time you need a job, ask a homeless man for one.

Hitler was funded by the private companies. He maintained market economy. No idea where you have your nonsense from.
And without the rich the poor would not be poor. People are poor in the US because they get crappy jobs. There is no need for crappy jobs.

My reference was to your Nazi comment we should remove Americans from the country and take their money like an authoritarian state.

The only people responsible for the poor are the poor themselves. Rich people don't make poor people. And if we took every dime away from rich people today, it won't help the poor one bit.

It reminds me of when I was a child in the 60's, and we were driving through a poor part of town. As I looked on, I told my father I wished I had a million dollars, because I would give it to those people so they didn't have to live that way. My father smiled at my comment and said "Son, you could give each and every one of these people a million dollars, and given enough time, they will be right back here again."

Not everybody is capable of managing money. Books have been written about lottery winners and how the money ruined their lives, and put them in massive debt. I've seen companies close down because the owner handed the business to his kid or kids, and they just spent the money and ran it to the ground.

As Mario Cuomo said, Reagan made it acceptable to blame the poor. It's disgusting the way you can ignore the fact that the entire country is so unequal and there are so many $7 jobs it's ridiculous with no benefits. The economy has gotten so unfair and you believe people just got lazy. Absolutely ridiculous. All to save the greedy idiot GOP Rich from paying their fair share.

 

[Bleipriester]

Look if that is true (it isn´t), we don´t need the rich anymore. We tax the poor anyway, if rich refuse to pay up they should leave indeed, their money should be confiscated.

Hitler would have been so proud of you.

If we took all the poor in this country, put them on an island somewhere, not only would they never be missed, it would benefit society greatly.

If we took all the rich in this country, put them on an island somewhere, the country would collapse.

Next time you need a job, ask a homeless man for one.

Hitler was funded by the private companies. He maintained market economy. No idea where you have your nonsense from.
And without the rich the poor would not be poor. People are poor in the US because they get crappy jobs. There is no need for crappy jobs.

My reference was to your Nazi comment we should remove Americans from the country and take their money like an authoritarian state.

The only people responsible for the poor are the poor themselves. Rich people don't make poor people. And if we took every dime away from rich people today, it won't help the poor one bit.

It reminds me of when I was a child in the 60's, and we were driving through a poor part of town. As I looked on, I told my father I wished I had a million dollars, because I would give it to those people so they didn't have to live that way. My father smiled at my comment and said "Son, you could give each and every one of these people a million dollars, and given enough time, they will be right back here again."

Not everybody is capable of managing money. Books have been written about lottery winners and how the money ruined their lives, and put them in massive debt. I've seen companies close down because the owner handed the business to his kid or kids, and they just spent the money and ran it to the ground.

Vast generalizing of the poor. They simply have no money to manage. In fact, you didn´t get robbed and killed during your journey through the poor quarter.
And for my "Nazi comment" you ignore the following. In the beginning there wasn´t rich and poor, there was aristocracy and populace. So rich and poor were pre-defined. Without modern day governments I would be nothing more than a ******* slave. I am not the slave type, I would kill my "employer" or die trying.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Wherever they get taxed less, maybe to other countries out of the reach of greedy liberals. Just like the yacht tax decimated the American yacht industry because the rich simply bought foreign built yachts, the wealthy will not sit still and let you or anyone take their wealth.

Liberals never seem to realize that human nature always makes tax schemes generate less than they're projected to, because people protect what they've earned.

Where are the rich going to move their monies?

Anywhere. Doesn't matter where. Anywhere would be better, than being under the tax system that AOC just proposed. Canada, UK, Australia, Germany, Finland even. Anywhere.

A wealth tax, will make anywhere in the entire world, preferable to here. If I have $200 Million to spend on a vacation home.... that home in the US is going to be taxed, and elsewhere it will not. I'm not talking property tax, that everyone pays... but a tax on the unrealized capital gain. No where else does that, although France tried it and repealed it because it was a huge failure.

So anywhere else, is going to be preferable to here, under AOC's system.

The Rich are not going anywhere and there will still be plenty of loopholes. But there will be enough -also taxing giant corporations, to give us less inequality and more upward Mobility again...

How so, you ******* think giving more money to the government will make you rich?

Since I am not a brainwashed functional moron greedy GOP idiot Tama I want to help the whole country's not just myself I'm retired happily. Tax the rich and corporations so that you can invest in our infrastructure and our education and training to make it more available. We have way too many $7 jobs. You people can't seem to see beyond your own nose. And you certainly have no idea about what Democrats want.

Say what?

Once again why dont you read the job boards

 

[Wyatt earp]

SO YOU CAN GO BROKE AND HAVE TO GIVE YOUR HOUSE TO AN ILLEGAL INVADER, OR MUSLIM TERRORIST!

Anyone posting here make $10 Million per year?

If I made $10 Million in a year, I wonder if I could survive on only $4.1 Million, or would I be Broke?
Sure, that's a lot to pay, but I KNOW I'd still be ok with ONLY $4.1 Million.

I'm sure 99-100% of the posters here on this site have yet to earn $10 Million or even $4.1 Million in their
entire working career.

Bottom line, Hoarding money by not spending or shipping money into offshore accounts, Is NOT good for those of us in America.

The more you make the more you spend, you know that right?