You Can Take The Boy Out Of The Country….

[tyroneweaver]

You know how that goes..’but you can’t take the country out of the boy…’
But, in this case, it’s the girl: Angela Merkel. Born and raised communist with an overlay of the German disease, Nazism.

And it applies to the Democrat Party as well: the effects of their Bolshevik predecessors is indelible.




1.First, the background: contrary to what you were taught in secular, government school, Communism and Nazism both come from Marx and Hegel. At the start, they were largely the same, the former international socialism, the latter, national socialism.

A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebbels’s....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.

Shortly thereafter the Nazis found it more useful to stress differences, and the earlier campaign posters showing similarities disappeared, posters with both the hammer and sickle and the swastika.

"Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.




2. There are really only two versions of governance in modern society.

The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


" Franklin Roosevelt had pictured a place where citizens were joined in a collective enterprise ... Reagan pictured a more individualistic America where everyone would flourish once freed from the shackles of the state, and so the watchwords became self-reliance and small government."
The Liberal Crackup

The reason that it is essential to understand the two forms is that only the former supports our first amendment.

Free speech is a privilege under collective government, and can be withdrawn.




3. Only in America, and only as long as Democrats/Liberals/Progressives are prevented from taking control, is there freedom of speech and thought.

Which brings me to Angela Merkel.

“German Chancellor Angela Merkel addressed the Bundestag recently to warn the German parliament about the dangers of free speech.” Merkel Gives Speech Attacking Free Speech


Wanna think about that before I continue?

oh yes ya can
I grew up on a dairy farm....and I still hate holsteins

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'm about as far from a Marxist as one can get and I detest ANY form of forced collectivism, including religion.
Religion, like politics, requires group think. Period. Group think is the core of religion, and politics.
Forcing a belief is immoral, regardless of the label or desired outcome. And yes forcing is what religion and politics do.
Politics uses law, religion uses fear and shaming.
The Founders agreed on forming a gov't, not a godvernment. They implemented a set of rules to help ensure Liberty was protected from tyranny by an oppressive collectivism, e.g. a godvernment. They agreed there should be NO state (gov't) sanctioned religion which is the premier collectivism. What historians present is immaterial- what they agreed to, the constitution, is what they agreed on.

1." I detest ANY form of forced collectivism, including religion."
Only one religion is 'forced,' and kills apostates.

Sooo what's you problem with the Judeo-Christian faiths? Ignorance?


2."Politics uses law, religion uses fear and shaming."

These versions use coercion, force and slaughter: Communism, Liberalism, Progressivism, Nazism, Fascism and Socialism.


Here's your remedial:
The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.



3. "The Founders agreed on forming a gov't, not a godvernment. "
Again wrong,
The Bible is the most quoted source by the Founders....and there is a reference to Jesus in the Constitution and four references to the Biblical God in the Declaration.

Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


" Franklin Roosevelt had pictured a place where citizens were joined in a collective enterprise ... Reagan pictured a more individualistic America where everyone would flourish once freed from the shackles of the state, and so the watchwords became self-reliance and small government."
The Liberal Crackup

Get it now????



You appear to be a moron and/or government school grad.....

...bet you hear that a lot.

 

[PoliticalChic]

2. There are really only two versions of governance in modern society.

The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.

What countries are examples of a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government..?

Allowing a baker not to make a cake that runs counter to his conscience.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You know how that goes..’but you can’t take the country out of the boy…’
But, in this case, it’s the girl: Angela Merkel. Born and raised communist with an overlay of the German disease, Nazism.

And it applies to the Democrat Party as well: the effects of their Bolshevik predecessors is indelible.




1.First, the background: contrary to what you were taught in secular, government school, Communism and Nazism both come from Marx and Hegel. At the start, they were largely the same, the former international socialism, the latter, national socialism.

A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebbels’s....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.

Shortly thereafter the Nazis found it more useful to stress differences, and the earlier campaign posters showing similarities disappeared, posters with both the hammer and sickle and the swastika.

"Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.




2. There are really only two versions of governance in modern society.

The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


" Franklin Roosevelt had pictured a place where citizens were joined in a collective enterprise ... Reagan pictured a more individualistic America where everyone would flourish once freed from the shackles of the state, and so the watchwords became self-reliance and small government."
The Liberal Crackup

The reason that it is essential to understand the two forms is that only the former supports our first amendment.

Free speech is a privilege under collective government, and can be withdrawn.




3. Only in America, and only as long as Democrats/Liberals/Progressives are prevented from taking control, is there freedom of speech and thought.

Which brings me to Angela Merkel.

“German Chancellor Angela Merkel addressed the Bundestag recently to warn the German parliament about the dangers of free speech.” Merkel Gives Speech Attacking Free Speech


Wanna think about that before I continue?

oh yes ya can
I grew up on a dairy farm....and I still hate holsteins

Don't give up the day job.



Believe it or not, many folks read beyond the title.

 

[Persistence Of Memory]

Hitler was totally for private property rights. Communism/Socialism is the exact opposite.

Hitler believed in free markets but detested crony capitalism.

That's nonsense.


Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian


Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian | George Reisman


1. ".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.



2. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?


3. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.


4. . What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.

OK. I know nothing and am not worthy for your thread...bye

Always amazed when some folks run from education.


All of my posts are linked, sourced, and documented.

I never run from education. But I sprint from misinformation pulled from 100 different sources.

Read that book to understand. Don't run from a brilliant historian.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hitler was totally for private property rights. Communism/Socialism is the exact opposite.

Hitler believed in free markets but detested crony capitalism.

That's nonsense.


Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian


Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian | George Reisman


1. ".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.



2. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?


3. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.


4. . What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.

OK. I know nothing and am not worthy for your thread...bye

Always amazed when some folks run from education.


All of my posts are linked, sourced, and documented.

I never run from education. But I sprint from misinformation pulled from 100 different sources.

Read that book to understand. Don't run from a brilliant historian.

First and foremost....I'm never wrong.

You might like to view this documentary, recommended by The Economist, that will prove everything I've said....

Then you can come back and apologize.



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"The Soviet Story," an award winning documentary clarifying the close and personal attachments of Hitler's Nazis and Stalin's Communists.

"Soviet Story" is the most powerful antidote yet to the sanitisation of the past. The film is gripping, audacious and uncompromising. [...] The main aim of the film is to show the close connections—philosophical, political and organisational—between the Nazi and Soviet systems." Telling the Soviet story

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hitler ran his whole campaign on 2 issues

1- Fanatically anti Bolshevic
2- Fanatically anti Jewish

He lumped the 2 together as Jewish Bolshevism . He really believed that the Jews were responsible for Bolshevism.

Merkel is a derkel.

1.First, the background: contrary to what you were taught in secular, government school, Communism and Nazism both come from Marx and Hegel. At the start, they were largely the same, the former international socialism, the latter, national socialism.

A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebbels’s....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.

Shortly thereafter the Nazis found it more useful to stress differences, and the earlier campaign posters showing similarities disappeared, posters with both the hammer and sickle and the swastika.

"Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.

First. I went to non public schools for 16 yrs culminating in a degree in Biz Admin, and a degree in Sociology.
Now that we got the education out of the way.

This is about the best of the best books out there. now that the Soviet archives have been looked at.

700 pages of expert knowledge knowledge I read twice...Thanks
I'd enjoy talking to you about it

Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler: The Age of Social Catastrophe by Robert Gellately

This is from a review of the book you base your knowledge on...


"In developing this analysis, Gellately provides informed but somewhat plodding accounts of the two systems. Not all of the arguments stand up to scrutiny. “In the 1930s, the struggle between Communism and Nazism became a deadly rivalry for world domination,” the author writes. But in the 1930s Stalin cared for little beyond the Soviet Union and was hardly bent on global conquest. Gellately's approach is relentlessly one-sided in its focus on ideology as the causative factor in history."
Nonfiction Book Review: Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler: The Age of Social Catastrophe by Robert Gellately, Author . Knopf $35 (696p) ISBN 978-1-4000-4005-6


But....I might take a look at the tome.



Looks like you wouldn't 'enjoy' talking to me about it, huh?

 

[Gdjjr]

You appear to be a moron and/or government school grad.....

Your opinions are noted. You are, no doubt, the smartest person to ever inhabit the planet.
I stopped going to formal school in the 9th grade- I learned to read and didn't need a lot more.

As for the rest of your tripe- the founders agreed on the constitution. Period. What their beliefs are believed to be is immaterial.
I detest forced collectivism and religions core is just that- as is political.
Your self-serving sanctimony is just that. It makes you come across as pretentious- it makes you "believe" you're smarter and more knowledgeable than anyone ever born- and you ain't.
You "link" for validation of your beliefs/knowledge- I don't need to. I know what I know of my own accord because I "read" - and not just what I want to "validate". Validation isn't necessary- it forms a collectivist group think- I detest that, remember?

You're nothing more, IMNSHO, than a fucking yankee broad who believes she's special- and ain't.

 

[Gdjjr]

First and foremost....I'm never wrong.

LOL- you're a self serving sanctimonious yankee broad. Period.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Angela Merkel is open about her opposition to the hallmark of the real America, free speech, our inalienable right granted by God and agreed to by the first amendment.

Guess who else is admitting their opposition to freedom.



5. In the OP I documented the ‘brotherhood’ of Communism and Nazism. Government school tries to claim that they are very different, because Marxism is a prominent theme in government school: see what they teach about religion, and our nation’s founding.



Angela Merkel was brought up as a Communist. “…Merkel “grew up in the formerly communist East Germany and spent 35 years of her life under the dictatorship.”

She has admitted joining the Free German Youth, the communist youth organisation, and a photo has surfaced showing her in a communist uniform. But the book argues that she hid her role in the youth group as secretary for agitation and propaganda, instead depicting herself as someone engaged in ‘cultural’ affairs.”

“One of Merkel’s defenders said she ‘couldn’t remember whether she was involved in agitation and propaganda.'” Questions Raised Over Merkel's Communist Past | Breitbart




No surprise she disapproves of free speech. But what about this:

“The California Democrat Party …. Resolution 19-05.94. Dems think the First Amendment is Critical, but not when it comes to hate speech.” California Democrat Party Convention Amends Free Speech and the First Amendment - Granite Grok



If one votes Democrat, they are advancing the same views that Merkel does.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You appear to be a moron and/or government school grad.....

Your opinions are noted. You are, no doubt, the smartest person to ever inhabit the planet.
I stopped going to formal school in the 9th grade- I learned to read and didn't need a lot more.

As for the rest of your tripe- the founders agreed on the constitution. Period. What their beliefs are believed to be is immaterial.
I detest forced collectivism and religions core is just that- as is political.
Your self-serving sanctimony is just that. It makes you come across as pretentious- it makes you "believe" you're smarter and more knowledgeable than anyone ever born- and you ain't.
You "link" for validation of your beliefs/knowledge- I don't need to. I know what I know of my own accord because I "read" - and not just what I want to "validate". Validation isn't necessary- it forms a collectivist group think- I detest that, remember?

You're nothing more, IMNSHO, than a fucking yankee broad who believes she's special- and ain't.

"Your opinions are noted. You are, no doubt, the smartest person to ever inhabit the planet."

How can I argue with that.

Don't you want to comment on my amazing grasp of the subject?
My understated wit?
My cygnian grace?
Please don't mention my spectacular good looks (just kidding- go ahead and mention them.)



No one reads more than I.

And.....try to avoid the juvenile vulgarity that marks those losing the argument.

 

[PoliticalChic]

First and foremost....I'm never wrong.

LOL- you're a self serving sanctimonious yankee broad. Period.

I have no objection to your putting it that way.

Of course, you're wrong....I link, source and document every post.

 

[PoliticalChic]

6. California Democrat Party resolution: “WHEREAS, Protecting First Amendment rights is critical, but is also limited to exclude hate speech using the concept that offending statements first should be viewed through the lens of the party experiencing the hate,…’ California Democrat Party Convention Amends Free Speech and the First Amendment - Granite Grok



Every Democrat candidate for President joyfully raised their hand when asked if they’d give free medical care to illegal aliens.
How do you suppose they’d vote on this ‘hate speech amendment’?



7. Pretty much like Communist/Nazi Merkel:

“But freedom of expression has its limits,” Merkel warned. “Those limits begin where hatred is spread. They begin where the dignity of other people is violated. This house will and must oppose extreme speech. Otherwise, our society will no longer be the free society that it was.” Merkel Gives Speech Attacking Free Speech



Gotta give up your freedom to be free.........


Where does the Democrat Party stand on this resolution?
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


With the Communists and Nazis, of course.

 

[alang1216]

2. There are really only two versions of governance in modern society.

The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.

What countries are examples of a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government..?

Allowing a baker not to make a cake that runs counter to his conscience.

Feel free to Google the definition of 'countries' but I'm pretty sure a 'baker' is not a country. Can I take your non-answer to mean there is no country on earth that falls into category 'a'? I guess that would mean there is your ideology and actual reality and there is very little overlap.

 

[PoliticalChic]

2. There are really only two versions of governance in modern society.

The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.

What countries are examples of a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government..?

Allowing a baker not to make a cake that runs counter to his conscience.

Feel free to Google the definition of 'countries' but I'm pretty sure a 'baker' is not a country. Can I take your non-answer to mean there is no country on earth that falls into category 'a'? I guess that would mean there is your ideology and actual reality and there is very little overlap.

Clearly you will to any extent to shield the Fascists you support.

Democrats will use any coercion to stamp out individuality.

 

[PoliticalChic]

8. “…you either have free speech in a country or you have politicians with the power to ban whatever speech they don't like. Merkel’s concerns over free speech have everything to do with silencing critics of Merkel’s open-door immigration policies.


I hate Hitler comparisons, but since this is Germany and the chancellor is talking about censorship, perhaps Merkel thinks something like a Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda is needed again, the previous incarnation of which was headed by Joseph Goebbels.

Angela Merkel says: we have to take away your freedom of speech, or else society won’t be free.”
Merkel Gives Speech Attacking Free Speech




And the Democrats will say the same things, and every dunce who swallowed the Russia Hoax and Ukrainegate will go along for the ride.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Law against criticizing Islam closer than you think, expert warns
If a Democrat wins the presidency, 'I hope some of y'all will visit me in prison'

...it's long been a goal of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation to obtain an international law criminalizing criticism of Islam. In fact, the coalition of 56 Islamic nations plus the Palestinian Authority has pressed for it for years at the United Nations.


...in October 2009, the Obama administration joined Egypt in supporting a resolution in the U.N.'s Human Rights Council to recognize exceptions to the freedom of speech for "any negative racial and religious stereotyping," which he called "a highly subjective category."

Approved by the U.N. Human Rights Council, the resolution called on states to condemn and criminalize "any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence."

Then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton affirmed the Obama administration's support for the resolution on July 15, 2011, in an address on freedom of speech at an OIS conference on Combating Religious Intolerance."
Law against criticizing Islam closer than you think, expert warns - WND

 

[alang1216]

2. There are really only two versions of governance in modern society.

The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.

What countries are examples of a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government..?

Allowing a baker not to make a cake that runs counter to his conscience.

Feel free to Google the definition of 'countries' but I'm pretty sure a 'baker' is not a country. Can I take your non-answer to mean there is no country on earth that falls into category 'a'? I guess that would mean there is your ideology and actual reality and there is very little overlap.

Clearly you will to any extent to shield the Fascists you support.

Democrats will use any coercion to stamp out individuality.

You clearly can't answer a simple question. I think you're losing your tenuous grip on reality, maybe the interweb is not for you.

 

[PoliticalChic]

2. There are really only two versions of governance in modern society.

The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.

What countries are examples of a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government..?

Allowing a baker not to make a cake that runs counter to his conscience.

Feel free to Google the definition of 'countries' but I'm pretty sure a 'baker' is not a country. Can I take your non-answer to mean there is no country on earth that falls into category 'a'? I guess that would mean there is your ideology and actual reality and there is very little overlap.

Clearly you will to any extent to shield the Fascists you support.

Democrats will use any coercion to stamp out individuality.

You clearly can't answer a simple question. I think you're losing your tenuous grip on reality, maybe the interweb is not for you.

Sooo.....you didn't like being smacked in your ugly kisser with the truth?

Excellent.

Won't be the last time.

 

[PoliticalChic]

9. Here is the Democrat rationale for restricting free speech.


“The idea here is to let anyone who decides they are injured by words to seek redress. Put another way, the State shall punish any speech it deems offensive. Put another “other” way, speech policing by the Left.

No surprises here. Nothing new, not really. We’ve emptied a digital forest on the matter and provided proof of this goal with votes at every level of government.
Democrats want to shut you up. Hate speech is the hill they want your speech to die on.

We know what this looks like. No right to religious conscience. Compelled speech. Mob tactics and intimidation to silence ideas and policies the Left opposes. Public harassment, doxxing, riots. And let us not forget the labeling – white supremacist, Nazi, hater, blah blah blah.


It’s what every tyranny craves, and Democrats want it bad.”
California Democrat Party Convention Amends Free Speech and the First Amendment - Granite Grok




If you would overlook a little thing like obliterating the first amendment to the Constitution in order to vote Democrat….


….what wouldn’t you overlook?