You Can Take The Boy Out Of The Country….

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You know how that goes..’but you can’t take the country out of the boy…’
But, in this case, it’s the girl: Angela Merkel. Born and raised communist with an overlay of the German disease, Nazism.

And it applies to the Democrat Party as well: the effects of their Bolshevik predecessors is indelible.




1.First, the background: contrary to what you were taught in secular, government school, Communism and Nazism both come from Marx and Hegel. At the start, they were largely the same, the former international socialism, the latter, national socialism.

A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebbels’s....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.

Shortly thereafter the Nazis found it more useful to stress differences, and the earlier campaign posters showing similarities disappeared, posters with both the hammer and sickle and the swastika.

"Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.




2. There are really only two versions of governance in modern society.

The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


" Franklin Roosevelt had pictured a place where citizens were joined in a collective enterprise ... Reagan pictured a more individualistic America where everyone would flourish once freed from the shackles of the state, and so the watchwords became self-reliance and small government."
The Liberal Crackup

The reason that it is essential to understand the two forms is that only the former supports our first amendment.

Free speech is a privilege under collective government, and can be withdrawn.




3. Only in America, and only as long as Democrats/Liberals/Progressives are prevented from taking control, is there freedom of speech and thought.

Which brings me to Angela Merkel.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel addressed the Bundestag recently to warn the German parliament about the dangers of free speech.” Merkel Gives Speech Attacking Free Speech


Wanna think about that before I continue?
 
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Hitler ran his whole campaign on 2 issues

1- Fanatically anti Bolshevic
2- Fanatically anti Jewish

He lumped the 2 together as Jewish Bolshevism . He really believed that the Jews were responsible for Bolshevism.

Merkel is a derkel.
 
Hitler ran his whole campaign on 2 issues

1- Fanatically anti Bolshevic
2- Fanatically anti Jewish

He lumped the 2 together as Jewish Bolshevism . He really believed that the Jews were responsible for Bolshevism.

Merkel is a derkel.



1.First, the background: contrary to what you were taught in secular, government school, Communism and Nazism both come from Marx and Hegel. At the start, they were largely the same, the former international socialism, the latter, national socialism.

A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebbels’s....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.

Shortly thereafter the Nazis found it more useful to stress differences, and the earlier campaign posters showing similarities disappeared, posters with both the hammer and sickle and the swastika.

"Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.
 
Hitler ran his whole campaign on 2 issues

1- Fanatically anti Bolshevic
2- Fanatically anti Jewish

He lumped the 2 together as Jewish Bolshevism . He really believed that the Jews were responsible for Bolshevism.

Merkel is a derkel.
Even many East European Jews and Soviet era defectors would agree with that assessment of Jewish Bolshevism with Trotsky as exhibit A.
 
Hitler ran his whole campaign on 2 issues

1- Fanatically anti Bolshevic
2- Fanatically anti Jewish

He lumped the 2 together as Jewish Bolshevism . He really believed that the Jews were responsible for Bolshevism.

Merkel is a derkel.
Even many East European Jews and Soviet era defectors would agree with that assessment of Jewish Bolshevism with Trotsky as exhibit A.
Absolutely. I believe a good number of the original Bolshevics leaders were Jews. Trotsky though was anti all religion
 
Hitler ran his whole campaign on 2 issues

1- Fanatically anti Bolshevic
2- Fanatically anti Jewish

He lumped the 2 together as Jewish Bolshevism . He really believed that the Jews were responsible for Bolshevism.

Merkel is a derkel.
Even many East European Jews and Soviet era defectors would agree with that assessment of Jewish Bolshevism with Trotsky as exhibit A.



Angela Merkel, Soviet communists, Nazis, Lenin, Hitler, Bolsheviks, the Democrat Party.....

....which believe in free speech?
 
Hitler ran his whole campaign on 2 issues

1- Fanatically anti Bolshevic
2- Fanatically anti Jewish

He lumped the 2 together as Jewish Bolshevism . He really believed that the Jews were responsible for Bolshevism.

Merkel is a derkel.
Even many East European Jews and Soviet era defectors would agree with that assessment of Jewish Bolshevism with Trotsky as exhibit A.
Absolutely. I believe a good number of the original Bolshevics leaders were Jews. Trotsky though was anti all religion

Jewishness is an ethnicity also. I'd say a good majority of the most influential Jews throughout history were not religious.
 
Hitler ran his whole campaign on 2 issues

1- Fanatically anti Bolshevic
2- Fanatically anti Jewish

He lumped the 2 together as Jewish Bolshevism . He really believed that the Jews were responsible for Bolshevism.

Merkel is a derkel.
Even many East European Jews and Soviet era defectors would agree with that assessment of Jewish Bolshevism with Trotsky as exhibit A.
Absolutely. I believe a good number of the original Bolshevics leaders were Jews. Trotsky though was anti all religion



All Marxists are anti-religion.


"Just because any religious idea, any idea of any god at all, any flirtation even with a god, is the most inexpressible foulness, particularly tolerantly (and often even favourably) accepted by the democratic bourgeoisie—for that very reason it is the most dangerous foulness, the most shameful “infection.” A million physicalsins, dirty tricks, acts of violence and infections are much more easily discovered by the crowd, and therefore are much less dangerous, than the nubile, spiritual idea of god, dressed up in the most attractive “ideological” costumes." Letter from Lenin to Maxim Gorky, Written on November 13 or 14, 1913 Lenin 55. TO MAXIM GORKY

Democrats, the same pattern.
 
Hitler ran his whole campaign on 2 issues

1- Fanatically anti Bolshevic
2- Fanatically anti Jewish

He lumped the 2 together as Jewish Bolshevism . He really believed that the Jews were responsible for Bolshevism.

Merkel is a derkel.



1.First, the background: contrary to what you were taught in secular, government school, Communism and Nazism both come from Marx and Hegel. At the start, they were largely the same, the former international socialism, the latter, national socialism.

A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebbels’s....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.

Shortly thereafter the Nazis found it more useful to stress differences, and the earlier campaign posters showing similarities disappeared, posters with both the hammer and sickle and the swastika.

"Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.
First. I went to non public schools for 16 yrs culminating in a degree in Biz Admin, and a degree in Sociology.
Now that we got the education out of the way.

This is about the best of the best books out there. now that the Soviet archives have been looked at.

700 pages of expert knowledge knowledge I read twice...Thanks
I'd enjoy talking to you about it

Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler: The Age of Social Catastrophe by Robert Gellately
 
Hitler ran his whole campaign on 2 issues

1- Fanatically anti Bolshevic
2- Fanatically anti Jewish

He lumped the 2 together as Jewish Bolshevism . He really believed that the Jews were responsible for Bolshevism.

Merkel is a derkel.
Even many East European Jews and Soviet era defectors would agree with that assessment of Jewish Bolshevism with Trotsky as exhibit A.
Absolutely. I believe a good number of the original Bolshevics leaders were Jews. Trotsky though was anti all religion

Jewishness is an ethnicity also. I'd say a good majority of the most influential Jews throughout history were not religious.


So....'Jewish' is not a religion?

Is it a culture, a societal structure?

Did you know that the Founders considered themselves the 'modern' version of the Old Testament Hebrews?





"...the influence of the Exodus story on the ethos of the American Revolution. So powerful was this influence in 1776 that Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and John Adams suggested that the Great Seal of the United States should include an image of Moses leading the Israelites through the Red Sea. A different committee subsequently chose another image--a pyramid! You can find it on the one-dollar bill.

John Adams' 1776 description of the seal: "Pharaoh sitting in an open chariot, a crown on his head and a sword in his hand passing through the Red Sea in pursuit of the Israelites: rays from a pillar of fire in the cloud, expression of the divine presence... Moses stands on the shore and extending his hand over the sea, causes it to overwhelm Pharaoh. Motto: Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." An image of this seal was not produced until 1856 when in appeared in Harper’s New Monthly Magazine in an article by Benson J. Lossing (1813–1891).


View Adams'Original Description

View the page from Lossing's article containing this image


A Tale of Two Images:

The Great Seal of the United States of America



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The Great Seal of the United States
 
Hitler ran his whole campaign on 2 issues

1- Fanatically anti Bolshevic
2- Fanatically anti Jewish

He lumped the 2 together as Jewish Bolshevism . He really believed that the Jews were responsible for Bolshevism.

Merkel is a derkel.



1.First, the background: contrary to what you were taught in secular, government school, Communism and Nazism both come from Marx and Hegel. At the start, they were largely the same, the former international socialism, the latter, national socialism.

A year after Lenin's death, 1924, the NYTimes published a small article about a newly established party in Germany, the National Socialist Labor Party, which "...persists in believing that Lenin and Hitler can be compared or contrasted...Dr. Goebbels’s....assertion that Lenin was the greatest man second only to Hitler....and that the difference between communism and the Hitler faith was very slight...." November 27, 1925.

Shortly thereafter the Nazis found it more useful to stress differences, and the earlier campaign posters showing similarities disappeared, posters with both the hammer and sickle and the swastika.

"Hitler often stated that he learned much from reading Marx, and the whole of National Socialism is doctrinally based on Marxism." George Watson, Historian, Cambridge.
First. I went to non public schools for 16 yrs culminating in a degree in Biz Admin, and a degree in Sociology.
Now that we got the education out of the way.

This is about the best of the best books out there. now that the Soviet archives have been looked at.

700 pages of expert knowledge knowledge I read twice...Thanks
I'd enjoy talking to you about it

Lenin, Stalin, and Hitler: The Age of Social Catastrophe by Robert Gellately



Thank you....but what does that have to do with the post to which you've linked?



I liked this one...

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Hitler was totally for private property rights. Communism/Socialism is the exact opposite.

Hitler believed in free markets but detested crony capitalism.
 
1.First, the background: contrary to what you were taught in secular, government school, Communism and Nazism both come from Marx and Hegel. At the start, they were largely the same, the former international socialism, the latter, national socialism.
German fascism and Russian communism are just two sides of the same socialist coin. ... :cool:
 
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Hitler was totally for private property rights. Communism/Socialism is the exact opposite.

Hitler believed in free markets but detested crony capitalism.


That's nonsense.


Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian


Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian | George Reisman


1. ".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.



2. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?


3. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.


4. . What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.
 
Hitler was totally for private property rights. Communism/Socialism is the exact opposite.

Hitler believed in free markets but detested crony capitalism.


That's nonsense.


Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian


Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian | George Reisman


1. ".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.



2. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?


3. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.


4. . What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.
OK. I know nothing and am not worthy for your thread...bye
 
I'm about as far from a Marxist as one can get and I detest ANY form of forced collectivism, including religion.
Religion, like politics, requires group think. Period. Group think is the core of religion, and politics.
Forcing a belief is immoral, regardless of the label or desired outcome. And yes forcing is what religion and politics do.
Politics uses law, religion uses fear and shaming.
The Founders agreed on forming a gov't, not a godvernment. They implemented a set of rules to help ensure Liberty was protected from tyranny by an oppressive collectivism, e.g. a godvernment. They agreed there should be NO state (gov't) sanctioned religion which is the premier collectivism. What historians present is immaterial- what they agreed to, the constitution, is what they agreed on.
 
I'm about as far from a Marxist as one can get and I detest ANY form of forced collectivism, including religion.
Religion, like politics, requires group think. Period. Group think is the core of religion, and politics.
Forcing a belief is immoral, regardless of the label or desired outcome. And yes forcing is what religion and politics do.
Politics uses law, religion uses fear and shaming.
The Founders agreed on forming a gov't, not a godvernment. They implemented a set of rules to help ensure Liberty was protected from tyranny by an oppressive collectivism, e.g. a godvernment. They agreed there should be NO state (gov't) sanctioned religion which is the premier collectivism. What historians present is immaterial- what they agreed to, the constitution, is what they agreed on.
That was very good.

I want to exempt those people who are religious, but do not judge any ones religion or non religion. Basically those that keep their mouths shut.
 
2. There are really only two versions of governance in modern society.

The Founders, classical liberals, conservatives
a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.

Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists
b. the collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.
What countries are examples of a. individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government..?
 
Hitler was totally for private property rights. Communism/Socialism is the exact opposite.

Hitler believed in free markets but detested crony capitalism.


That's nonsense.


Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian


Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian | George Reisman


1. ".... Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And ... socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.



2. ... the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ... what should one expect the economic system of a country ruled by a party with "socialist" in its name to be but socialism?


3. It is far more common to believe that it represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed. The basis of the claim that Nazi Germany was capitalist was the fact that most industries in Nazi Germany appeared to be left in private hands.


4. . What Mises identified was that private ownership of the means of production existed in name only under the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government. For it was the German government and not the nominal private owners that exercised all of the substantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive. The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.
OK. I know nothing and am not worthy for your thread...bye



Always amazed when some folks run from education.


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